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Would an MMORTS style expansion for WoW interest you?

TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
edited January 2017 in World of Warcraft
As title says. What if one of the next expansions focuses on many MMORTS elements? Similar to Warcraft 3, but on a large continent and persistent.

It would be horde vs alliance vs a third enemy that is controlled by the AI, and control very much like Warcraft houses for population, build military units, towers to defend, walls, research for better units. Except it would have to be on a more "epic" scale since it is an MMO. But every player would contribute to the faction as a whole, minus the AI faction. There'd be rewards, achievements etc...and guilds would of course be important.

WoW IS based off a RTS after all, so it would be fitting if it put RTS back into Warcraft. And there has never been an AAA persistent MMORTS out there.

In some ways it also would be similar to DAOC with the three factions, but it would instead be more of an RTS than an RPG expansion.

I think the idea is really good, and Warcraft was first an RTS. Again, it would be really fitting to put the RTS back into Warcraft.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Not for me. A real MMORTS could be interesting though but turning Wow into one would just mess things up, it is not really made for it and would upset it's current players. 

    The idea in itself is great, but not to NGE a current MMO into it. It would be better to make Warcraft 4 a MMORTS then, that could actually become rather popular.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,720
    nope, i dont play RTS games. I suck at them and with my problems on my right hand the last thing i want is even more stress with heavy mouse usage on an RTS.

  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited January 2017
    Loke666 said:
    Not for me. A real MMORTS could be interesting though but turning Wow into one would just mess things up, it is not really made for it and would upset it's current players. 

    The idea in itself is great, but not to NGE a current MMO into it. It would be better to make Warcraft 4 a MMORTS then, that could actually become rather popular.
    Possibly right. The idea however then could lead Blizzard to a VERY untapped market.

    Most "mmorts" (not really) games are mobile pay to win, or browser games. Nor are they really persistent, where you can send units across a huge map (azeroth size) in real time. They all have instanced towns and stuff, and battles are also instanced.

    No ones ever done a true persistent, open world style MMORTS game. And Warcraft would be perfect fit for that, with all the lore, units etc. Warcraft does have instancing, but the world itself is open with no loading screens (except between continents). And its a world everyone knows. Plus while Blizzard may have to get slightly creative, they can probably copy a lot of WoW, but make it MMORTS instead of MMORPG. Plus, Blizzard, while maybe not always creative, at least makes very polished games and gives them a lot of support. And there is definitely no polished or vaguely good MMORTS game out there. Heck, none at all by an AAA company. I think Blizzard could do it best.

    Then there'd be a wave of MMORTS clones :P Which is a genre very lacking.

    But with my idea of two factions to choose from (then the AI one without players), that also completely solves the problem people say about MMORTS "but if I log off, I'll get destroyed". Instead, the whole faction keeps fighting 24/7 as long as people play (which if it was by Blizzard, would be played by hundreds of thousands or millions). 

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  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641
    No. Just no. I loathe RTS.

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  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,414
    edited February 2017
    Putting even more elements from different genres into WoW would only harm the game in a long run and drive more people away from the game.

    I've never understood why people want all the features into same game, or why Blizzard has the obsession to fill the game with dozens of mini-games. MMORTS sounds great, but keep it away from RPGs and particularly from WoW.
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  • jmcdermottukjmcdermottuk Member RarePosts: 1,571
    No thanks. RTS's and RPG's are fundamentally different types of games and I think turning an established MMORPG into something other than an MMORPG would be criminally unfair to the playerbase that bought an MMORPG, not an RTS.

    If you want a MMORTS based on Warcraft then make a new game.
  • PsYcHoGBRPsYcHoGBR Member UncommonPosts: 482
    Wow cam from an RTS. Warcraft one to three was pretty good. Warcraft 3 and its expansions where very RPG and had lots of story so making it into a MMORTS I would love to see.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Wouldn't have any interest in a MMORTS, or even a MORTS tbh, its a type of game that is more session based and not something you can just drop in and out of, or join part way through without creating imbalances, as a concept it would be virtually impossible to implement without changing the game into not being an RTS anymore, RTS's are unlikely to work other than as set duration etc. lobby games.
  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 959
    No interest in RTS games.  I wouldn't turn an already long running established game into something it's not.  Better served if it was an offshoot or something like that.

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  • TENTINGTENTING Member UncommonPosts: 262
    edited February 2017
    I like the idea. If I understand your idea correctly.

     As far as I am concerned, this is exactly or very close to what CU and AoC will do with their games.

    And why not in WoW. WoW already have the huge scale world, why not make it worth while to serve as the battlefield it is designed to be.
     People rarely go to old areas at max lvl anyway, for other reasons than Archaeology and travelers that seeks back to old favorite areas, when they consider quitting for good. (On standard servers at least), RP servers are a little different, even though the phasing have destroyed a lot of that.

     So why not make use of all those amazing areas, cause a lot of them really are beautiful and well made, they should be able to serve a purpose in the late game also.

     Guilds could become meaningful building their guild keeps, and the commoners should be able to build houses and farms and why not make these things matter? 

    On PvP servers these things could maybe be battled for, conquered or contested and destroyed.

     On PvE servers there could be a mix, areas with destroyable buildings, and areas that are safe to build in. And the economy and traders would gain an entire new market to explore in regards of researching and harvesting materials? 
     Could the creativity in building things become the new peek moment for WoW?

    Id say yes it can.

     It is so painfully obvious that something like this could make WoW blossom again.
    And creating content like this would benefit everybody, because it would give more content to do, than just repeated raiding, though I dont see why raiding could not at the same time support the new content.

    And guilds have complained they have had little purpose for years, design a system like this that benefits not only guilds, but also allow the soloer to feel like a valued part of the community.

    A system like this would give the game a fresh breathe of purpose and community if designed well.

     If on the other hand, which is the Blizzard way, that guilds can get a little premade plot somewhere with no real interesting longterm benefits, that nobody will bother travelling to and defend, cause its not worth the effort anyway, then no.

     And this is where it lands.
     Blizzard is not the company to embrace something like this.
    While at the same time CU and AoC will not cover a PvE mindset, which Blizzard would have.

     So great idea, but Blizzard cant do it.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 40,938
    Not really interested. I burned out on the genre back in its heyday and didn't even bother with WC3 when it came out.

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    No not interested....

    however, i wouldn't mind to see some rts elements in WoW....

    imagine one players on one side playing a rts game...  while the opponents are a full 25 man raid...  
    this would deliver truely unique gameplay....  

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