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I'll say it again, Pantheon will be huge

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,259
    Aelious said:
    Nice attempt to bypass my points.
    Well, apart from one I quoted you didn't make any...
  • Mylan12Mylan12 Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Gdemami said:
    Mylan12 said:
    You could say the same about CU
    Indeed all of that applies to CU as well, you seem to be getting a hang of it.
    LOL Well this game is not going to be FTP no matter how much you complain. Go play a WoW clone but hurry as they are failing right and left. 
    This is my last post in response to you as its never good to feed the trolls as they get too fat, get diabetes, and so forth in a downward spiral.
  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Gdemami said:
    Aelious said:
    Nice attempt to bypass my points.
    Well, apart from one I quoted you didn't make any...
    Right and you never addressed the two points.
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,259
    Aelious said:
    Right and you never addressed the two points.
    What points?

    That KS allows production of products people would have never paid for if sold as regular, released products?
    That popularity of private servers is rather an indication of unwillignless to pay?

    It is better to act like you never said something like that...
  • borghive49borghive49 Member RarePosts: 420
    Gdemami said:
    CrazKanuk said:
    literally, creating a niche of a niche in an environment where competition will be higher in the coming year or two. Ideally, if you're going to carve out a little niche for yourself, you'd like to be the only player in that niche, really.
    That is just a misuse/wrong use of the term.  Aiming for low profits/low playerbase isn't niche, that is a failure.

    It is only on these boards, "the nerds", that are so narrow minded they have tendency to put pretty or less pretty labels on everything.

    Average Joes do not care, they play what they find fun and then it is up to devs whether they can successfully cater to their largest audience.
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    TheScavenger
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,259
    borghive49 said:
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    Getting rich is just a side effect of successfull business and you won't be successful if you ignore your customers and work just for your self-amusement...


  • borghive49borghive49 Member RarePosts: 420
    edited February 2017
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    Getting rich is just a side effect of successfull business and you won't be successful if you ignore your customers and work just for your self-amusement...


    This game isn't even out yet and you are here dogging it on the forums lol. Maybe you should wait for it to release and see how it does before you pass judgment? I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. By the way I run a successful business and I'm not rich, there is more to life than becoming rich lol. 
    TheScavenger
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,259
    borghive49 said:
    I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. 
    Oh really? Can you actually quote me where I am saying what kind of game I want to play?

    That much to passing judgements...s#%t  indeed.
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,224
    Gdemami said:
    Mylan12 said:
    I am not aware of an old school EQ style game being released in that time span.
    Do you still remember the quote you posted...? That should give you a hint why games like EQ are no longer made - no point making games that already died years ago and expecting different result.

    So afterall, you didn't get the irony od your very own post...
    EQ is dead? When did this happen?

  • Mylan12Mylan12 Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    Getting rich is just a side effect of successfull business and you won't be successful if you ignore your customers and work just for your self-amusement...


    This game isn't even out yet and you are here dogging it on the forums lol. Maybe you should wait for it to release and see how it does before you pass judgment? I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. By the way I run a successful business and I'm not rich, there is more to life than becoming rich lol. 
    Just do what I did. Gdemami posts add nothing to the discussion and he is just trolling. So to make it easier to read the forum and the posts of the people that are serious about this game, I just expanded my ignore list by one. 
  • borghive49borghive49 Member RarePosts: 420
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. 
    Oh really? Can you actually quote me where I am saying what kind of game I want to play?

    That much to passing judgements...s#%t  indeed.
    Spare me your tripe, your nothing but a big troll here at mmorpg, you downvote almost every post and inject your snarky comments every where, I for one and tired of it. You don't bring anything to the table, except your soulless negative comments,it is exhausting. 
    TheScavenger
  • borghive49borghive49 Member RarePosts: 420
    Mylan12 said:
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    Getting rich is just a side effect of successfull business and you won't be successful if you ignore your customers and work just for your self-amusement...


    This game isn't even out yet and you are here dogging it on the forums lol. Maybe you should wait for it to release and see how it does before you pass judgment? I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. By the way I run a successful business and I'm not rich, there is more to life than becoming rich lol. 
    Just do what I did. Gdemami posts add nothing to the discussion and he is just trolling. So to make it easier to read the forum and the posts of the people that are serious about this game, I just expanded my ignore list by one. 
    Yeah I'm adding him to my ignore list, this guy is a total jerk. I mean look at this profile 500 LOLs that is just awful. 
    TheScavenger
  • AmsaiAmsai Member UncommonPosts: 299
    He apparently has nothing better to do with his time. I myself just cant get enough energy to go to the forums of games I dont play to troll them. If I dont like a game I just dont play it. And I move on. While its true there are no new MMOs that have been launched that I care for and there are several older MMOs that I used to like but are either no longer available or not the same game anymore (FFXI). I still have plenty of single player games I can play and the infrequent online shooter I get roped into by friends. At least until Pantheon comes out. So thats my suggestion Gdemami. Go play something you like. Life is too short to piss it away on a game you dont even care about.


  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    edited February 2017
    Gdemami said:
    Aelious said:
    Right and you never addressed the two points.
    What points?

    That KS allows production of products people would have never paid for if sold as regular, released products?
    That popularity of private servers is rather an indication of unwillignless to pay?

    It is better to act like you never said something like that...
    See? This is progress! You'll be happy to know I don't need to act like I didn't say those things because I actually didn't ;)

    The popularity of KS/EA/Indie products and the decline of released "standard" titles is indicative of a need for diversity in gameplay models. There is only so far a genre can spread it's earning potential (players) on the same type of product before it can't sustain itself.

    The majority of MMOs are F2P so the argument that willingness to pay as the driving force behind private server popularity doesn't hold much weight. I believe it's a pushback to the changes made to these titles in order to pander to the newer model of MMO gameplay, which as mentioned above has become overdone and overloaded.
  • AubearusAubearus Member UncommonPosts: 1
    wanderica said:
    I agree with this, and to take it one step further, I think the game will be better for it.  Pantheon is supposed to be all about community.  It harkens back to a time when everyone knew who their server's "class clown" was; a time when roleplayers weren't strange to see; and a time when large friend lists meant something.  People simply don't want that anymore.  The new way certainly isn't wrong, but it isn't Pantheon's way.  Dying 3 times and deleveling after taking a week to get level 10 just because you attempted to make it to another capital without a high level escort isn't most peoples' cup of tea these days.  I suspect that many players will try it and discover that this type of game is exactly what they've been missing.  However, many will also see it as outdated and purposefully punishing completely missing the point of Pantheon.  The best it can hope for is to start small and grow steadily over time.  Let the game evolve with the players for a change instead of the other way around.
    I've been watching Patheon for a bit now, but have not committed to support the game yet  simply because of being burned in the past by to good to be true startups. If they can truly bring back an EQ type experience as you say i will certainly jump on board. The last part of your statement about starting small might be incorrect from the fact that there might be a lot of people (such as myself) sitting and watching the progress before they finally jump in and commit. What is the timeline on an alpha rollout?  
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,259
    edited February 2017
    Aelious said:
    The popularity of KS/EA/Indie products and the decline of released "standard" titles is indicative of a need for diversity in gameplay models.
    It isn't, and I explicitely said why.
    Aelious said:
    The majority of MMOs are F2P so the argument that willingness to pay as the driving force behind private server popularity doesn't hold much weight.
    It does since:
    1) Pantheon is not F2P.
    2) Private servers do not have to deal with development costs.
    3) F2P does not mean no income

    Like before, you are still not making any "points"...
  • AeliousAelious Member RarePosts: 3,521
    Gdemami said:
    Aelious said:
    The popularity of KS/EA/Indie products and the decline of released "standard" titles is indicative of a need for diversity in gameplay models.
    It isn't, and I explicitely said why.
    Aelious said:
    The majority of MMOs are F2P so the argument that willingness to pay as the driving force behind private server popularity doesn't hold much weight.
    It does since:
    1) Pantheon is not F2P.
    2) Private servers do not have to deal with development costs.
    3) F2P does not mean no income

    Like before, you are still not making any "points"...





    I am actually and that point, combining the two concepts, is that there is a player base that would, theoretically, play Pantheon. Does that mean they will? No, nobody knows that but will at some point. 

    It's not negotiable that the current model of MMO gameplay has hit its zenith. Look at the titles coming out that we know of and the growth of current titles. As it is standard models are canabalizing others. New features and meta gameplay are on the horizon. I'm sorry if this hurts the sensibilities of your gameplay of choice but it's been long overdue. Blizzard provided a great run.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,485
    edited February 2017
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. 
    Oh really? Can you actually quote me where I am saying what kind of game I want to play?

    That much to passing judgements...s#%t  indeed.
    I don't believe you've actually ever said what sort of games you currently play, or want to play.

    Pretty sure your not interested in doing either. 

    But here's your chance, put up or shut up :p

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  • JacobinJacobin Member RarePosts: 1,009
    edited February 2017
    There was an option for the market to vote with their wallets for Pantheon. It was called kickstarter and it was an embarrassing failure.

    Why would any dev anywhere want to invest in an old school game after looking at that train wreck?

    Meanwhile Asian casinos....err MMOs are creating overnight millionaires.
  • Raidan_EQRaidan_EQ Member UncommonPosts: 247
    edited February 2017
    Jacobin said:
    There was an option for the market to vote with their wallets for Pantheon. It was called kickstarter and it was an embarrassing failure.

    Why would any dev anywhere want to invest in an old school game after looking at that train wreck?

    Meanwhile Asian casinos....err MMOs are creating overnight millionaires.
    The Kickstarter failed because there was nothing to show. Many supporters at the time (me included) were discouraged because of it.  The Kickstarter would have easily suceeded if the Pantheon developers had their first gameplay stream to show. Since approximately 450k was raised on nothing besides a race/class list and some class descriptions shows there was an interest - especially when the first 200-300k was raised very quickly.  There just wasn't enough info available to sustain that momentum and enthusiasm.

    And, currently, Pantheon's community and interest continues to increase because of continued forward progress. Look at the increased traffic across social media platforms, the official site, etc.

    Anyway, also, a return to old-school mechanics does not equate to meaning completely old school remake.  It means taking what worked, improving on it, and leaving the disaster that are current age "MMOs" behind.
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,821
    edited February 2017
    You guys are giving space to Gdemami talk? Are you guys trying to farm LOL's or something?
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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,534
    edited February 2017
    Jacobin said:
    There was an option for the market to vote with their wallets for Pantheon. It was called kickstarter and it was an embarrassing failure.

    Why would any dev anywhere want to invest in an old school game after looking at that train wreck?

    Meanwhile Asian casinos....err MMOs are creating overnight millionaires.
    You're part right. It was a chance to vote with their wallets, but they did fail to produce a compelling reason for a lot of us to pledge at that time. That has since been rectified by way of videos, streams and a lot more information. Now, people are voting with their wallets on a daily basis, based on the continuous stream of players appearing on the official forums.


  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Gdemami said:
    borghive49 said:
    You realize this is an indie studio right? Maybe getting rich isn't their goal, but just to provide a stable income for themselves while working on something they love to do.
    Getting rich is just a side effect of successfull business and you won't be successful if you ignore your customers and work just for your self-amusement...


    This game isn't even out yet and you are here dogging it on the forums lol. Maybe you should wait for it to release and see how it does before you pass judgment? I can't stand people like you, all you want is the same regurgitated s#%t from MMO developers. By the way I run a successful business and I'm not rich, there is more to life than becoming rich lol. 

    I don't think that's the point. I think that the point is that it won't be huge and the problem with saying it's going to be huge is that you ultimately set it up for failure because when it isn't, then it actually drives people away. Setting realistic expectations sets it up for success. 

    By the way, if you say the thread title, in your head, in a Trump voice, you won't hear it any other way. You've been warned. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 7,311
    edited February 2017
    Me too in that same voice....It's going to be tremendous,bigly god what a sound bite must go scrub my ears out. The moment I hear him on TV I switch channels.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 8,761
    People stuck on Pantheon being modeled off an 18 year old game, so its stuck in the past. Has not been reading much about this MMO. Its going back to Sandbox questing at its roots and real exploring. Old school class interdependency but beyond that. They have some very modern concepts. Even EQ1 fans will have lots to learn to be able to master adventuring in Pantheon.

    Here read the FAQ 
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