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Why I don't play ESO? and why don't you?

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  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,346
    I'm not sure if I should post here or in the other (why I play ESO) thread.

    I play ESO, but I have a hard time sticking to it. I don't hate it, in fact, I actually like a lot about it...on paper. Unfortunately, once in the game it just bore me.

    I got two problems with it:
    - classes and their associated abilities. They should have stick to TES design instead of making all magic generic MMO abilities tied to specific classes. That take me out of the game being a TES game. 
    - lackluster exploration, I think TES suffer from too many "area quests" while it doesn't have enough cave/dungeon/fun area with monsters with no quest attached like the SP games.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,105
    I honestly didn't enjoy the combat and how they did classes.

  • AdoniAdoni Member UncommonPosts: 384
    I might be the odd man out, I like it.

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  • Joseph_KerrJoseph_Kerr Member RarePosts: 1,111
    While in my opinion TESO is the best MMORPG out right now, there are some things that made me stop playing a while back and keep me from returning.

    1 - They took out cosmetics from the cash shop just so they could repurpose them to their crown crates and loyalty rewards cash shop tab. That's just grimy.
    2 - Crown crates.
    3 - Boring generic quests (i'm hoping not all of them but most of the quests I did were).
    4 - For the most part quest givers are robotic, crudely animated and have no personality or uniqueness resulting in a bland and forgettable experience compared to other ES games. 
    5 - Poor voice acting (apart from John Cleese, Kate Beckinsale and a couple others, most were poorly voiced compared to other ES games or just used voice actors that didn't match their character).
    6 - Fighters guild and mages guild quest lines are a joke compared to assassins guild and thieves guild quest lines.
    7 - Guild stores instead of an auction house, wtf... seriously... wtf?

    This is my opinion and is subject to change without notice.
  • xpsyncxpsync Member UncommonPosts: 609
    Adoni said:
    I might be the odd man out, I like it.
    You're not alone, me too. Before update 12 i would have been posting like i was at some anonymous meeting seeking help as to why i can't enjoy such an amazing world too, similar to the rest in this thread.
    To possibly help, mix it up, get out of your comfort zone and try different combat options, try other classes for example:

    My Templar is duel blades,  i do Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild with that character as it fits that content so well.
    My NB is all about exploring the world, taking in the odd side quest, kinda scouting for the sorc too.
    My Sorc is all about lore, i pick a zone, do all the quests and soak in the stories and lore.
    My DK (to be announced) but probably do the other DLC and dungeons.

    I gather on all of them and picked a specialized craft for each.

    Update 12 saved this game, housing coming, Morrowind on route, announced regular DLC and Chapters. I was like many of you, could not stand this game, but i persisted and kept trying it over and over. Once they turned it into a world i gave it more of a serious chance, and whaddya know, it finally clicked, and clicked hard. There are some amazing things within this game if you were to only slow the F down, smell the roses, immerse yourself into the lore and simply enjoy the journeys it provides, it just might surprise you.
  • TheodwulfTheodwulf Member UncommonPosts: 307
    Just didn't like it, but I also didn't like oblivion, just not my cup of tea
  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 107
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    jircris said:
    Torval said:
    Because my damn computer keeps rebooting almost every time I zone or port. Otherwise I would play the hell out of it because it's one of the best mmos out right now.
    lol i know that pain, had to upgrade my computer :P 

    yonpachi said:
    Crown Crates
    crown crates? RNG boxes that EVERY mmo and RPG has even FPS games?
    personally i do not mind the crates because well they do not effect ANYONE but those who buy them. And if you do buy them then you take the risk of not getting anything good.

    I still play ESO but i have had a few things that annoy me, such as constant nerfs, lag, crap customer service. AND lastly crafting sets being obsolete compared to monster sets.
    At least in Overwatch I could just play and get my RNG boxes. At least once in a week in Overwatch I could get free 3 RNG Boxes from Arcade mode. At least in Overwatch the RNG boxes has Pity Timer that is in favour of the customers. At least RNG Boxes in FPSes are purely cosmetics. 

    RNG Boxes has no place in MMORPG. Especially ESO. You might be able to ignore it, but I cannot. It is my principle. I do not support this kind of monetization and have no intention to pretend to be blind.
    Wait I thought ESO RNG was all cosmetic as well?
    You sure? I suggest you recheck the Crown Crates page, and see that their Crown Crate wasn't all just cosmetics. 
  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 515
    Albatroes said:
    no Auction House. No amount of pros for the current system of selling will convince me that its better than a global system. Its garbage, sry.
    What makes you compelled towards a global system as opposed to a regional system of trade/selling? I ask this as a matter of interest, not to be contrary.
  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,009
    I personally dont like the action combat.  My wrist hurt after playing.  I love everything about the game but the action combat.
  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,867
    I've tried to play ESO many times. Actually, I don't think there is a game that I've tried to like as many times as ESO, but I always end up bored and quitting after a week.

    same here , something is missing , dunno what its ...i think the questing , gameplay is kinda "meh" , i tried a lot of times to enjoy it and had no luck :(
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182
    yonpachi said:
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    jircris said:
    Torval said:
    Because my damn computer keeps rebooting almost every time I zone or port. Otherwise I would play the hell out of it because it's one of the best mmos out right now.
    lol i know that pain, had to upgrade my computer :P 

    yonpachi said:
    Crown Crates
    crown crates? RNG boxes that EVERY mmo and RPG has even FPS games?
    personally i do not mind the crates because well they do not effect ANYONE but those who buy them. And if you do buy them then you take the risk of not getting anything good.

    I still play ESO but i have had a few things that annoy me, such as constant nerfs, lag, crap customer service. AND lastly crafting sets being obsolete compared to monster sets.
    At least in Overwatch I could just play and get my RNG boxes. At least once in a week in Overwatch I could get free 3 RNG Boxes from Arcade mode. At least in Overwatch the RNG boxes has Pity Timer that is in favour of the customers. At least RNG Boxes in FPSes are purely cosmetics. 

    RNG Boxes has no place in MMORPG. Especially ESO. You might be able to ignore it, but I cannot. It is my principle. I do not support this kind of monetization and have no intention to pretend to be blind.
    Wait I thought ESO RNG was all cosmetic as well?
    You sure? I suggest you recheck the Crown Crates page, and see that their Crown Crate wasn't all just cosmetics. 
    I asked the question because I don't have ESO installed. I haven't played since before they added the crates, just seen many say it was cosmetic in nature. What do they have in them that crosses that line?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,791
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    jircris said:
    Torval said:
    Because my damn computer keeps rebooting almost every time I zone or port. Otherwise I would play the hell out of it because it's one of the best mmos out right now.
    lol i know that pain, had to upgrade my computer :P 

    yonpachi said:
    Crown Crates
    crown crates? RNG boxes that EVERY mmo and RPG has even FPS games?
    personally i do not mind the crates because well they do not effect ANYONE but those who buy them. And if you do buy them then you take the risk of not getting anything good.

    I still play ESO but i have had a few things that annoy me, such as constant nerfs, lag, crap customer service. AND lastly crafting sets being obsolete compared to monster sets.
    At least in Overwatch I could just play and get my RNG boxes. At least once in a week in Overwatch I could get free 3 RNG Boxes from Arcade mode. At least in Overwatch the RNG boxes has Pity Timer that is in favour of the customers. At least RNG Boxes in FPSes are purely cosmetics. 

    RNG Boxes has no place in MMORPG. Especially ESO. You might be able to ignore it, but I cannot. It is my principle. I do not support this kind of monetization and have no intention to pretend to be blind.
    Wait I thought ESO RNG was all cosmetic as well?
    You sure? I suggest you recheck the Crown Crates page, and see that their Crown Crate wasn't all just cosmetics. 
    I asked the question because I don't have ESO installed. I haven't played since before they added the crates, just seen many say it was cosmetic in nature. What do they have in them that crosses that line?
    Just some accelerated XP scrolls and a few potions. Otherwise, 100% cosmetic.
    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    ESO is probably my favorite game right  now, but I started to take breaks from it because I am not satisfied with the pvp. Specifically, I don't like the affect proc sets and unkillable tanks have on the game. It's just not fun and seems to have been implemented either without caring about pvp or simply incompetently. If pvp ever gets more care and thoughtful implementation, I will play a lot more.

    For now, I play GW2 for mmorpg-pvp (also play BF1 and OW) and come back to ESO once in a while when I want to see Tamriel.


  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,518
    edited February 2017
    I don't enjoy the combat very much, especially compared to newer games like Black Desert.  It sits in that really crappy mediocre spot where it's not as complicated as tab target combat but it's not as enjoyable as more action oriented games.
  • ThaneThane Member RarePosts: 3,381
    bc i am not into those 8 skills games.
    i have a keyboard with plenty of keys, and i wanna use em.

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • ZoeMcCloskeyZoeMcCloskey Member UncommonPosts: 1,359
    edited February 2017
    First off NOT a Skyrim, Elder Scrolls, whatever other games are in the series player.  I tried ESO in the open beta and liked it well enough but didn't love it.  I was waiting to see if friend were going to jump in but they never really did so I passed on it.  Nowadays I keep giving it serious consideration every time I see it on sale but haven't jumped in yet.

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  • kartoolkartool Member UncommonPosts: 517
    It's a well made story-based MMO, the combat isn't terrible and sometimes it's a fun game to pick up for a few weeks and run through some of it. I don't care about crown crates and will never understand why people complain about things like that. 
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member RarePosts: 4,303
    1) Never really liked Oblivion or Skyrim a whole lot - so the lore is zero draw
    2) I haven't seen a single thing to make me think it's any better than other MMOs
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,931
    I only PvP in ESO.

    PvP players in ESO are a small minority as the focus is all about PvE in recent updates, so i am taking a break.


  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,180
    edited February 2017
    Albatroes said:
    no Auction House. No amount of pros for the current system of selling will convince me that its better than a global system. Its garbage, sry.
    What makes you compelled towards a global system as opposed to a regional system of trade/selling? I ask this as a matter of interest, not to be contrary.
    It isn't a matter of pros for the current system its the fact that a "single" AH "would not work". More correctly it would have and create so much lag it would probably make the game unplayable.

    So what you have are guild traders. Each guild can have 3k (edit meant to say 500 so a 6 tradar cluster is 3k) players. Who play across Tamriel and post items from any bank. And its not unusual to have 5 or 6 traders in a cluster - all near a portal so very easy to get to. Which means searching on what - in times past - would have been a full servers worth of people isn't that hard.  

    Would a single AH would be "better" - easier for sure and imo "better". It is what it is though because ESO uses megaservers. So a single AH would have to cope with multi-million listings. Imagine if WoW had 1 server across all US servers and 1 server for all EU servers - that's right 1 server. That would be the equivalent of a "single" ESO AH. The complaints about WoW's AH lag are bad enough as it is.
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  • acidbloodacidblood Member RarePosts: 843
    Kefo said:
    Torval said:
    jircris said:
    Torval said:
    Because my damn computer keeps rebooting almost every time I zone or port. Otherwise I would play the hell out of it because it's one of the best mmos out right now.
    lol i know that pain, had to upgrade my computer :P 
    It happens in several games, not just ESO. It's a fairly new computer with a very troublesome intermittent hardware problem that I can't nail down. I could probably do it if I had a bunch of swap parts to test with, but I don't so I live with it until it dies (as soon as possible please :p).

    Have you tried the power supply? My computer would randomly freeze while playing some newer games until I swapped in a new PS(old one was like 10 years old lol). Haven's had an issue since.
    Had a similar problem in a new computer I brought years ago... the main harddrive would die every time the CD-ROM (yes, that old) and secondary harddrive fired up at the same time :/ Ever since I've made sure to get a good quality power supply.

    On topic, yeah, Crown Crates, they weren't needed and I refuse to support a game that has such... especially one that is pay up front, pay for content, pay for cosmetics and has an optional sub.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,180
    Iselin said:
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    Distopia said:
    yonpachi said:
    jircris said:
    Torval said:
    Because my damn computer keeps rebooting almost every time I zone or port. Otherwise I would play the hell out of it because it's one of the best mmos out right now.
    lol i know that pain, had to upgrade my computer :P 

    yonpachi said:
    Crown Crates
    crown crates? RNG boxes that EVERY mmo and RPG has even FPS games?
    personally i do not mind the crates because well they do not effect ANYONE but those who buy them. And if you do buy them then you take the risk of not getting anything good.

    I still play ESO but i have had a few things that annoy me, such as constant nerfs, lag, crap customer service. AND lastly crafting sets being obsolete compared to monster sets.
    At least in Overwatch I could just play and get my RNG boxes. At least once in a week in Overwatch I could get free 3 RNG Boxes from Arcade mode. At least in Overwatch the RNG boxes has Pity Timer that is in favour of the customers. At least RNG Boxes in FPSes are purely cosmetics. 

    RNG Boxes has no place in MMORPG. Especially ESO. You might be able to ignore it, but I cannot. It is my principle. I do not support this kind of monetization and have no intention to pretend to be blind.
    Wait I thought ESO RNG was all cosmetic as well?
    You sure? I suggest you recheck the Crown Crates page, and see that their Crown Crate wasn't all just cosmetics. 
    I asked the question because I don't have ESO installed. I haven't played since before they added the crates, just seen many say it was cosmetic in nature. What do they have in them that crosses that line?
    Just some accelerated XP scrolls and a few potions. Otherwise, 100% cosmetic.
    Agree. Not saying I like it but as it stands the non-cosmetic items are minor. The big factors being a) how long it takes to hit cap - months! b) the game is very alt friendly since an alt gets the cp rating of the main (making a level 1 (potentially much) more powerful). 



  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,791
    gervaise1 said:
    the game is very alt friendly since an alt gets the cp rating of the main (making a level 1 (potentially much) more powerful). 
    Not to mention that if you level an alt he goes straight from level 49 to CP561 or whatever your max CP happens to be. Back in the old VR days each alt after 50 had to be leveled individually up to VR16 and that was quite the grind. The game is extremely alt-friendly now.
    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED
  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member UncommonPosts: 396
    edited February 2017
    Thane said:
    bc i am not into those 8 skills games.
    i have a keyboard with plenty of keys, and i wanna use em.
    Actually... ESO is a 12 skill game.

    5 actions+Ultimate per weapon hot bar.


    I prefer having fewer slots to work with, makes putting together skill build-outs a lot more interesting, and each choice carries a lot more weight.

    But I know some prefer having a lot of skills available to them at any given time.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 6,822
    I have to admit, I didn't like ESO when it was open beta, so I didn't Day 1 purchase this one. I didn't buy it until I caught it on sale last year, and played for a couple of weeks to give it a fair shake, but still didn't really like it, but hey, at least it didn't require a sub and I could go back and poke around a bit every now and again.

    I tried it again just last week. The combination of One Tameriel with controller support has me playing it and having a good bit of fun now. The UI on the controller just makes a lot more sense, and it feels better playing it to me.

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