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Zenimax to Receive $500M as Reward for Broken NDA - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited February 2017 in News & Features Discussion

imageZenimax to Receive $500M as Reward for Broken NDA - MMORPG.com News

Oculus co-founder Palmer Luckey and several co-defendants have lost a contentious lawsuit with Zenimax. Accused of misappropriating trade secrets after leaving Zenimax, Luckey et al have been found responsible for breaking non-disclosure agreements signed before they left the company. The suit alleged that the development of Oculus Rift came as a direct result of "millions of dollars' worth of Zenimax's research and copyrighted code", according to Polygon, though the jury felt otherwise.

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  • MegilindirMegilindir Member UncommonPosts: 223
    edited February 2017
    NOW I understand the reason behind 30 dollar Elk mount in ESO. Zenimax were punishing us poor gamer folk.

    Frek them both companies. I recently started to grow an allergy against multi-millionaire greedy homosaphiens' ( I wonder why ) . But i guess that suit went cheap for Zeni despite asking 4 billion dollars in the first place.

    I'm sure Mark will take his anger out of poor little girls in Thailand after this while Zeni wont surprise us with its greed, the rich will always get richer..

    beLIEve

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,766
    Dr. Evil just fell out of his chair.
  • SjorAndSkySjorAndSky Member UncommonPosts: 24
    edited February 2017


    NOW I understand the reason behind 30 dollar Elk mount in ESO. Zenimax were punishing us poor gamer folk.



    Frek them both companies. I recently started to grow an allergy against multi-millionaire greedy homosaphiens' ( I wonder why ) . But i guess that suit went cheap for Zeni despite asking 4 billion dollars in the first place.



    I'm sure Mark will take his anger out of poor little girls in Thailand after this while Zeni wont surprise us with its greed, the rich will always get richer..




    Uber edgy my man, i like it!
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    gg Zen.

    I wouldn't mind seeing that little twit Luckey having to eat out of a dumpster by the end of the year. If you can make that happen, so much the better.
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  • DeathtognomesDeathtognomes Member UncommonPosts: 155

    Nyctelios said:

    Well, let's never forget what Bethesda did to Obisidian. This is nothing. This is no surprise at all.



    what did they do?
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    edited February 2017
    Nyctelios said:
    Well, let's never forget what Bethesda did to Obisidian. This is nothing. This is no surprise at all.
    Let's not forget the Fallout saga with Interplay.
    Zenimax CEO is an actual high flying lawyer, basically don't mess with Bethesda/Zenimax.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited February 2017
    Can you imagine if they had found them guilty of stealing Zeni code?  500M just for trade secrets..  With copyright violations, that would've been an epic judgement.


    Do we think this will affect the outlook for VR?  As I understand it, Oculus was sort of the groundbreaker and highest-end offering, right?

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  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286


    Can you imagine if they had found them guilty of stealing Zeni code?  500M just for trade secrets..  With copyright violations, that would've been an epic judgement.


    Do we think this will affect the outlook for VR?  As I understand it, Oculus was sort of the groundbreaker and highest-end offering, right?



    Meh. Oculus is owned by Facebook. Oculus should be fine. As far as the $500M goes, this will probably go through some sort of appeals/negotiation process. It'll be years before any money exchanges hands, if it ever does.

    Remember the Apple vs. Samsung judgement where Apple was awarded $1 billion? Samsung appealed, judge found that it was miscalculated by at least $400 million. Last I read, the appeal is still in the courts process.
  • orbitxoorbitxo Member RarePosts: 1,956
    hehehe good for Zeni!-theyve earned it!
  • JakdstripperJakdstripper Member RarePosts: 2,410
    Palmer Lukey better spend those 2+billions Facebook gave him in a hurry.....there is blood in the water, and the sharks are circling...
  • donger56donger56 Member RarePosts: 443
    VR pretty much sucks anyway. Those over priced clunky headsets are mostly just collecting dust sitting in the closets of people who got suckered into buying the newest gadget. They didn't sell any where near what they expected to. The high price tags combined with so little actual content sure didn't help.  
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    VR will go down just like Duck Hunt Nintendo went down.

    Marketing is such a powerful tool because people are so blinded by hype and marketing,they can't see past their own nose.It is like that old saying,people will plant in their mind they see things that are not actually there.

    So they see VR and are like WOW that looks amazing,meanwhile it looks the same as it did w/o VR lol.

    There is only one VR aspect that will ever be meaningful and that is the ability to fully control your character w/o a keyboard and mouse.The visual side of things will always be a joke and always be a trade off,5% cooler VR effects for 10% worse game.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • SpeakzzzSpeakzzz Member UncommonPosts: 29
    If you want to see the future of VR check out the movie Gamer. Where the kid is controlling Gerard Butler. When our technology gets that far, that is when VR has a true future and will actually take over.
  • GruugGruug Member RarePosts: 1,791
    Let's keep this is perspective. It is likely the cash amount will be reduced if not thrown out upon appeal. Not saying it will be thrown out but that it is highly likely. Many of these sorts of cases are amended heavily upon appeal.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited February 2017
    Oh god is ESO going to go into the pornography business like 3DX Chat, and the witcher where people can experience it all through VR?

    Or is ESO going to be fully mocap, and around VR inputs now?
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    edited February 2017
    Am I the only person who is happy about this?

    Crowdfunding then selling out to Facebook is pretty much like taking donations for the village's new parish but instead set up shop for satanic orgies. 
    Post edited by ConstantineMerus on
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Am I the only person who is happy about this?

    Crowdfunding then selling out to Facebook is pretty much like taking donations for the village's new perish but instead set up shop for satanic orgies. 
    That's a signature-worthy post sir! :+1:

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  • FrammshammFrammshamm Member UncommonPosts: 322

    Kaneth said:





    Can you imagine if they had found them guilty of stealing Zeni code?  500M just for trade secrets..  With copyright violations, that would've been an epic judgement.


    Do we think this will affect the outlook for VR?  As I understand it, Oculus was sort of the groundbreaker and highest-end offering, right?






    Meh. Oculus is owned by Facebook. Oculus should be fine. As far as the $500M goes, this will probably go through some sort of appeals/negotiation process. It'll be years before any money exchanges hands, if it ever does.



    Remember the Apple vs. Samsung judgement where Apple was awarded $1 billion? Samsung appealed, judge found that it was miscalculated by at least $400 million. Last I read, the appeal is still in the courts process.



    From the article.. it looks like they settled. No one was found guilty of anything and there was no judgement. Nothing here will get appealed. Both sides just sat down, flexed their legal positions and the stiffest, hardest dick came away with 500M.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 7,915
    Better wait for the appeals and higher courts before breaking out the champagne.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Darn it.  Didn't see this. I started on in hardware just now.  Sorry.
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584


    Am I the only person who is happy about this?

    Crowdfunding then selling out to Facebook is pretty much like taking donations for the village's new parish but instead set up shop for satanic orgies. 



    problem is the winner is someone worse the best it could happen was zeni lose, be forced to pay all the bills for the lawsuit, then oculus undersold and the dude who sold oculus never get to work again and is backrupt in 2 years
    FOR HONOR, FOR FREEDOM.... and for some money.
  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865
    Ah, this is how the new expansion gets funded!

    Originally posted by Arskaaa
    "when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    kitarad said:
    Better wait for the appeals and higher courts before breaking out the champagne.
    I'm sure the law firms representing both sides are quietly sipping their champagne right now.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 7,915
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    Better wait for the appeals and higher courts before breaking out the champagne.
    I'm sure the law firms representing both sides are quietly sipping their champagne right now.
    Lawyers always win no matter who loses huh.

  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    kitarad said:
    Iselin said:
    kitarad said:
    Better wait for the appeals and higher courts before breaking out the champagne.
    I'm sure the law firms representing both sides are quietly sipping their champagne right now.
    Lawyers always win no matter who loses huh.
    I always enjoy seeing the light in the eyes of our youth flicker out as soon as they grow old enough to realize how the real world works.

    Congratulations not choking on the red pill.
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