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Black Desert Online changed everything for me

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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,162
    Aori said:
    DMKano said:
    BDO is much better as a solo game.

    AA is much better as a guild game.

    questing is terrible in both games


    Is there an mmo with enjoyable questing anymore?
    I'm the wrong person to ask - I can't stand questing - TSW and ESO do it better, heck WoW probably does it a lot better.
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
    edited December 2016
    Funny thing is I was in BladeBoques's guild (the guy that made the videos you watched, OP).  The guy is a freaking machine.  He's really into all the crafting and side-systems and has no problem grinding whatever 24/7 for weeks on end.  If you're that kind of person, I can see BDO being perfect.

    He had us all doing guild quests and prep for days for guild wars, but it's just not terribly rewarding.

    There certainly is a lot of potential with the game, but my feeling is somewhere along the line, they figured out it really wasn't going to take off so they switched to focusing on building it around the cash shop.

    To me, BDO is like halfway to an amazing game, but they stopped there and turned on the mobile-monitzation model.  I still have an extremely faint hope they build on the game, because I do think it's a nice foundation.

    I will be checking it out again soon when they release the witch awakening, but I doubt I'll be staying long.  I also have an endgame toon in TERA, and at least in TERA I get to do this weird thing called CONTENT when I log in.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,162


    He had us all doing guild quests and prep for days for guild wars, but it's just not terribly rewarding.



    That's putting it mildly - guild wars are completely meaningless in BDO. 
  • IshkalIshkal Member UncommonPosts: 271
    LOL QQ about repetitive then tout BDO that's a good one LOLOLOLOLOL
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,600
    Aori said:
    Aori said:
    Aori said:
    N3ptune said:
    yea,, BDO requires a bit more intelligence to play it, so i understand if it wasnt for you.
    Yes, there is a lot to do in the game majority is all stuff I don't really care for. Game is beautiful and combat animations look amazing.

    Though, hitting 3 buttons to activate one skill requires little intelligence. Adding more steps to get one thing done I already get paid at work to do that. I don't feel like doing it in a fuckng video
    If you're building an economic empire, it takes some smarts. This is what I like about the game. 

    The PvE wouldn't be bad if there was just more variation instead of a handful of grind spots and far to many people.
    No it doesn't take intelligence, It takes time which many of us don't have like we once had.

    I simply disagree, building a successful one is far harder than just building one. Knowing what workers to use on which nodes, which nodes to get, what to process, when to sell, what to craft.. etc.

    Once you have the contribution, not much time is needed at the computer to keep your economic empire going. Doesn't change that inefficient and poor planning are going to yield weak results. 
    /facepalm

    Many of us already do this in RL! You think a VIDEO GAME makes you smarter? LOL!
    A lot of on going research on the subject. There are quite a few findings that point to many positive effects on the brain by playing video games.

    However, it wasn't a point I was trying to make. To manipulate the economy in BDO, a certain degree of intelligence is needed. For a lot of people their brains don't tick that way. Now if you give people the knowledge they can usually figure it out but someone has supply that knowledge first, when the economy fluctuates they can become lost and in some cases using old knowledge start to decrease the efficiency of their economic power.

    I'm also not sure what you mean by many of us already do this. What do you do? Manipulate market and commands scores of peons? Sorry but there aren't that many of you around but kudos to you if you're one of the few.
    Fucking unbelievable!

    Thank you so much for properly educating us! Please do it right!
    You put yourself above everyone else because you know how to manipulate the economy? Critical thinking is not limited to knowing the market?

    It's not hard to flood the market and drive prices down you don't need a economic fucking background for that. Again all that requires TIME!




    Real Fans of Chess don't get bored!
    Real Fans of Soccer don’t get bored!
    Real Fans of Baseball don’t get bored!
    Real Fans of MMORPGs don’t get bored!
    What's your excuse?
  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,135
    Aori said:
    Aori said:
    Aori said:
    N3ptune said:
    yea,, BDO requires a bit more intelligence to play it, so i understand if it wasnt for you.
    Yes, there is a lot to do in the game majority is all stuff I don't really care for. Game is beautiful and combat animations look amazing.

    Though, hitting 3 buttons to activate one skill requires little intelligence. Adding more steps to get one thing done I already get paid at work to do that. I don't feel like doing it in a fuckng video
    If you're building an economic empire, it takes some smarts. This is what I like about the game. 

    The PvE wouldn't be bad if there was just more variation instead of a handful of grind spots and far to many people.
    No it doesn't take intelligence, It takes time which many of us don't have like we once had.

    I simply disagree, building a successful one is far harder than just building one. Knowing what workers to use on which nodes, which nodes to get, what to process, when to sell, what to craft.. etc.

    Once you have the contribution, not much time is needed at the computer to keep your economic empire going. Doesn't change that inefficient and poor planning are going to yield weak results. 
    /facepalm

    Many of us already do this in RL! You think a VIDEO GAME makes you smarter? LOL!
    A lot of on going research on the subject. There are quite a few findings that point to many positive effects on the brain by playing video games.

    However, it wasn't a point I was trying to make. To manipulate the economy in BDO, a certain degree of intelligence is needed. For a lot of people their brains don't tick that way. Now if you give people the knowledge they can usually figure it out but someone has supply that knowledge first, when the economy fluctuates they can become lost and in some cases using old knowledge start to decrease the efficiency of their economic power.

    I'm also not sure what you mean by many of us already do this. What do you do? Manipulate market and commands scores of peons? Sorry but there aren't that many of you around but kudos to you if you're one of the few.
    Fucking unbelievable!

    Thank you so much for properly educating us! Please do it right!
    You put yourself above everyone else because you know how to manipulate the economy? Critical thinking is not limited to knowing the market?

    It's not hard to flood the market and drive prices down you don't need a economic fucking background for that. Again all that requires TIME!




    You uh might wanna calm down a bit. No idea how I hit such a nerve but we're clearly not going to get anywhere.
  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,135
    DMKano said:
    Aori said:
    DMKano said:
    BDO is much better as a solo game.

    AA is much better as a guild game.

    questing is terrible in both games


    Is there an mmo with enjoyable questing anymore?
    I'm the wrong person to ask - I can't stand questing - TSW and ESO do it better, heck WoW probably does it a lot better.
    Oh I loathe questing myself, I mean I like the epic style quests that actually take you on a journey but I haven't seen those in a very long time. 

    I hate chores and that is what questing is these days.
  • linadragonlinadragon Member RarePosts: 569
    Muktuk said:
    I enjoyed BDO until I hit the soft level cap.  Then I realized that end game was all about running around in a loop grinding on the same boring trash mobs.  Bosses are even more boring.  And the loot ... well guess what, it has the most boring stats of any game I've played.

    Not my thing, but I'm glad that a couple of you enjoy it.
    Isn't that pretty much "end game" in every mmorpg that uses end game?
  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    N3ptune said:
    So iv been playing MMORPG's since 2000 starting with everquest. Over the years i have had very hard time finding games i actually enjoy and i found most of the "new school" games just didnt do it for me. The constant quest grind that most of the games out there have just got repetitive as hell and i just couldnt get past a few weeks of that game play. So after trying almost every mmo out there , i would always go back to eq1 eq2 or daoc, till i found Black Desert Online. So BDO came out and i tried it, entered the game , it seemed like every other new style mmo out there, and i quit after a day of trying it, i judged it without knowing anything. A month later i went to try it again and i watched some videos on youtube from a guy named BladeBoques i believe and those videos changed everything for me. After seeing on video the amount of content in BDO and the amount of stuff to do amazed me, it is well beyond any mmo iv ever played (closest one would be EVE). There is seriously endless stuff to do, it can get overwhelming at times because i sometimes dont know which part of the game i want to get into at that moment. I can go on and on about BDO but seriously BDO is the future of mmo gaming, the stuff they did and added is just genius, they hit every single aspect of every mmo game out there, they have it all. So if your looking for a new game that will immerse you in a world of endless content, and i mean endless, check out BDO,, it rocked my world. and i havent had anything good to say about any new MMOs for like 8 years. another awesome thing about the game is its new and still growing, every two weeks there is a patch and there are some huge updates coming soon,, like the ocean update, which will make the already MASSIVE ocean and hundred islands even more exciting, big boats,, whale hunting, pirate killing , etc. there is a new class coming in the plans,, new continent, i cant stop talking about the game. Check it out, if it interests you, feel free to message me and i can meet up with u in game or discord and help you out,, u will need help, there is a bit of a learning curve.
    I agree, I felt the same way, in till I learned it was just a massive gambling game, with the devs controlling the economy.
  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 321
    I need  a question answered and it's pretty simple.  I just bought the "Traveler's Pack" which is on sale. What I like to know is how are they handling extra characters? Is there a limit? Do I have to buy a "slot" to get more than the one I have now?
  • A1D3NA1D3N Member UncommonPosts: 275
    Jamar870 said:
    I need  a question answered and it's pretty simple.  I just bought the "Traveler's Pack" which is on sale. What I like to know is how are they handling extra characters? Is there a limit? Do I have to buy a "slot" to get more than the one I have now?
    i can use ingame Loyalty(day login) to buy more spaces or real money, but i think you get about 6 normaly anyway and thats plenty tbh

    Currently Playing:
    ...... :(

  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member UncommonPosts: 372
    Jownz said:
    Not being able to see 5 feet away from my character killed it for me. People popping into my screen, grass popping, trees popping. That and the endless monster grind that posed no challenge at all. I've given up on new mmo's and went back to play Mortal Online.
    My favorite is huge horse-drawn carriages popping into view just in time to run over you, then disappearing again once they're more than 10 feet past you.


  • QuarterStackQuarterStack Member UncommonPosts: 372
    edited January 2017
    Aori said:
    Elevenb4 said:
    N3ptune said:
    yea,, BDO requires a bit more intelligence to play it, so i understand if it wasnt for you.
    Anyways, that aside, I'm glad you are enjoying it. I do like seeing posts here where people are praising a game rather than bashing it. I tried it, but like another poster said, I got tired of seeing things popping in and out of my screen when I would finally get within 5 ft of it. 
    That has to do with your computer and/or game settings. 
    Wrong.  I can't believe people are still perpetuating this apologist lie that "it's your system or game settings". 

    The short draw-distance is hard-coded into the game by the developers, in order to allow them to have a highly detailed open world. This has been stated by the devs themselves. This has been known for far too long to still be pretending otherwise.

    I can run the game on maximum settings, everything at peak with very playable performance, and traveling through the world is like watching pop-corn popping on my screen, with stuff popping in mere feet from me; my favorite example being the massive horse-drawn carts from my previous post.

    Edit: Clicking 'lol' as a response is not an argument. 
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Funny thing is I was in BladeBoques's guild (the guy that made the videos you watched, OP).  The guy is a freaking machine.  He's really into all the crafting and side-systems and has no problem grinding whatever 24/7 for weeks on end.  If you're that kind of person, I can see BDO being perfect.


    You can say that again.  I have often wondered what his real life was like when he spends so much time meticulously playing BDO.  Did you see his video for maximizing your energy and uses a timer to be sure he is in his bed every three minutes to get the extra tick of energy?  That guy plays the game like his life depends on it!

    OP, glad you gave it another try.  I'm in a lifeskill guild and my goal is just to see how much money I can amass by the end of 2017.  I love not being pressured to buy things or having to log in all the time to pay taxes on my house.
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,135
    Aori said:
    Elevenb4 said:
    N3ptune said:
    yea,, BDO requires a bit more intelligence to play it, so i understand if it wasnt for you.
    Anyways, that aside, I'm glad you are enjoying it. I do like seeing posts here where people are praising a game rather than bashing it. I tried it, but like another poster said, I got tired of seeing things popping in and out of my screen when I would finally get within 5 ft of it. 
    That has to do with your computer and/or game settings. 
    Wrong.  I can't believe people are still perpetuating this apologist lie that "it's your system or game settings". 

    The short draw-distance is hard-coded into the game by the developers, in order to allow them to have a highly detailed open world. This has been stated by the devs themselves. This has been known for far too long to still be pretending otherwise.

    I can run the game on maximum settings, everything at peak with very playable performance, and traveling through the world is like watching pop-corn popping on my screen, with stuff popping in mere feet from me; my favorite example being the massive horse-drawn carts from my previous post.

    Edit: Clicking 'lol' as a response is not an argument. 
    I simply don't notice it, so I can only assume it is system related. I know it is there but not to the extent people are claiming. 

    Also max settings might have to do with noticeable pop in. I've turned my graphics options down a bit and the pop in became unnoticeable. I can also see at least 2 lengths beyond my engagement range as a Witch.

    Pop in is extremely noticeable in very congested areas, loading in and memory related problems. I wonder if it is memory related, BDO commits over 8gb of RAM and is using 3-4gb. 

    Either way, it hasn't been an issue for me since I tweaked my settings months ago.
  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 645
    edited January 2017
    Aye, BDO changed my view on MMO's. It opened my eyes to what most MMOs have/are becoming these days - antisocial.

    Never played a game where I was surrounded by so many people but heard fuck-all over any of the public, global or local chat channels. Everyone in that games joins up with their tiny groups of friends and then proceeds to ignore every single player around them.

    Seriously, if that's your play-style, log out and play ARK on a 64 person server and save the games with 1,000+ person servers for people that actually give a shit about the social element to gaming. Remember hanging out in a cantina in SWG? Or what about teaming up with a Bard in DAoC because you needed to get somewhere fast? Don't look for any of that interaction in BDO!
  • KelarleeKelarlee Member UncommonPosts: 24
    Played BDO for about month. And more i played more i understand that this game is "casino" as it is. All stuff what happend to me was random things. "Oh i kill the boss for a 30 times and got nothing" - "Its okay" i said, its all random. "Oh i taimed horse 20 times and all i got highest 3-d grade" - "Its okay" i said, its all random. "Oh i have enough money to buy boss equipment. Why i should waste my time and kill bosses while i can just buy it...But stop - why i just cant buy this item from auction for 10-nd time in a row while i pressing "Buy" button?" - "Because its FCKING RANDOM even if you want to buy something from auction!" This game was fun until i made a bit of progression and understood game looting mechanics. Now for me its hillarious piece of crap and i surely know i will never back to this game anymore.
  • Jixen9Jixen9 Member UncommonPosts: 47
    edited January 2017
    I have no idea why people make threads like this. Might as well title the thread, "I finally found a game that I like, kill the dream for me, please."

    Shouldn't you be off playing BDO instead of seeking approval on forums?
    You know why i make thread like this, its because i think its important to share my thoughts with other people who are into the same things i am, in this case its gaming.. We are all gamers here, and should look out for one another IMO. If i find a game i think is awesome, i tell my friends.. simple... Forums are often over-run by small D*ck trolls that feel the need to hate on everyone they see because they dont have the confidence to do it IRL..i think its cool when people share their gaming experience ,especially a positive one,,i dont expect everyone to like the games i do, thats cool. This is a LFgame forum, i visit often when im in need of a decent game or some info on a possible good game, so id hope others would post interesting info about games maybe i havent researched enough yet... So go cry in a corner and have fun playing WoW.
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