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Opening Crown Crates... For Science! - Elder Scrolls Online Videos - MMORPG.com

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edited December 2016 in Videos Discussion

imageOpening Crown Crates... For Science! - Elder Scrolls Online Videos - MMORPG.com

One of the more controversial things to be added to Elder Scrolls Online lately is the Crown Crate, an item that can be purchased for real world money that will contain a number of in-game items out of a list of possible ones for the current "season".

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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    edited December 2016
    Thanks Bill for the Science!

    Trying to decide if I want my kid to play ESO with me or not after Christmas. Edit: Nevermind. Answered the question. Wait til end of video to answer questions Ike.
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....
  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    edited December 2016

    Scorchien said:

    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....



    Don't people tried and some got from 50 crates almost 30 Battle mage and Imperial Mage costumes and shit load of pots . It's a retarded money grab for Idiots by the way I guess After this retarded patch I will personally quit ESO I can't stand such outrageous greedy move from devs.
  • JaimlJaiml Member UncommonPosts: 130
    I don't have a link to prove this but I hear that crate lottery is a huge income generator for those games that use it.

    Personally I don't like to spend money on things that have the odds stacked against you so I don't play the crate games.

    On the other hand, I am totally for selling these items in game. It allows me to play for free. I'm enjoying the game and if they want to spend their money and it allows me to play it for free, I say let the bad mathematicians keep the servers running!
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    I will probably buy special stuff for housing (which will undoubtedly come with the DLC) with my crowns, but otherwise, they're just burning a hole in my pocket. I don't like that I can't just buy a mount directly but the Crown Gem trade works well to help do just that over time.

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  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    I have yet to see RNG loot boxes that are worth it for the average player. Sure, you can get lucky and recieve many times the costs of the boxes, especially if you can sell want you don't want, but on average, the chances of getting something worthwhile are abysmal.

    I don't play ESo and therefore can't judge what is worth something, but in the comments e.g. on Reddit people weren't exactly excited.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    edited December 2016
    I'm already addicted to crown crates only by watching this video.
    This seems to be extremely addictive for weaker minded people like me.
    Bill, buy more crates!! Make more videos!!!

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    edited December 2016
    DMKano said:

    Scorchien said:

    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....



    you can always buy more til you get lucky.
                 I have the 12k from subbin ,might as well do something with themm.. no plans on buying Crowns ... So whats your point ..ohh n/vm ..you dont have one
  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 966
    What inevitably happens if they prove popular, you will start seeing things that are exclusive to those only, things will move to other things that aren't just cosmetic, and may have drop rates lowered on certain items that prove the most popular in "encourage" more spending.

    I no longer play ESO, but this gives me just another reason to not come back. Yes, I understand it's "optional", but in the end they all end up the same way.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,003
    edited December 2016




    Scorchien said:


    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....






    Don't people tried and some got from 50 crates almost 30 Battle mage and Imperial Mage costumes and shit load of pots .
    It's a retarded money grab for Idiots by the way I guess After this retarded patch I will personally quit ESO I can't stand such outrageous greedy move from devs.



    How does their existence affect your game play? Other than funding the company that is bringing you the game.

    and while I admire people who only patronize companies they think are "socially responsible" I wonder if you research every company you patronize as a lot of them do a lot of questionable things.
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  • LheiahLheiah Member UncommonPosts: 190
    I did some, I don't think they are to bad and I am definitely not a fan of gamble boxes. Seems to me, to get the best bang for the buck is to not spend the Gems until the end of the season, so your not buying something that might have popped anyways.

    I am curious exactly which categories are the seasonal items. Looks like just the apex category, but don't have a warm fuzzy on that either.

    I've decided I will be buying some at the beginning of each month and that's it, I can see how folks will easily get caught in their money making pit and wind up spending way more than they should be.

    Luckily for me, I am not really interested in this round of apex mounts, but I am interested in one of the senche mounts in the next category down that I want and already have the Gems to buy it. But, I will wait for the end of the season to see if I can get it to pop between now and then.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,500

    Sovrath said:








    Scorchien said:



    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....









    Don't people tried and some got from 50 crates almost 30 Battle mage and Imperial Mage costumes and shit load of pots .

    It's a retarded money grab for Idiots by the way I guess After this retarded patch I will personally quit ESO I can't stand such outrageous greedy move from devs.






    How does their existence affect your game play? Other than funding the company that is bringing you the game.



    and while I admire people who only patronize companies they think are "socially responsible" I wonder if you research every company you patronize as a lot of them do a lot of questionable things.



    You don't get it, they trigger envy, one of the worst human emotions hence the anger over their existence.

    Sure, few will admit to it, but it makes people feel bad hence the outcry.

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Kyleran said:

    Sovrath said:








    Scorchien said:



    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....









    Don't people tried and some got from 50 crates almost 30 Battle mage and Imperial Mage costumes and shit load of pots .

    It's a retarded money grab for Idiots by the way I guess After this retarded patch I will personally quit ESO I can't stand such outrageous greedy move from devs.






    How does their existence affect your game play? Other than funding the company that is bringing you the game.



    and while I admire people who only patronize companies they think are "socially responsible" I wonder if you research every company you patronize as a lot of them do a lot of questionable things.



    You don't get it, they trigger envy, one of the worst human emotions hence the anger over their existence.

    Sure, few will admit to it, but it makes people feel bad hence the outcry.
    No way man, my beef is with crates as an idea....  Not RNG lootboxes, they're fine, I just don't like crates.

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565

    Torval said:

    @BillMurphy taking one for the team in the name of science!


    Thanks for the vid Bill.



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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Torval said:
    @BillMurphy taking one for the team in the name of science!


    Thanks for the vid Bill.
    Looks like any Saturday night in San Francisco.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Kyleran said:

    Sovrath said:








    Scorchien said:



    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....









    Don't people tried and some got from 50 crates almost 30 Battle mage and Imperial Mage costumes and shit load of pots .

    It's a retarded money grab for Idiots by the way I guess After this retarded patch I will personally quit ESO I can't stand such outrageous greedy move from devs.






    How does their existence affect your game play? Other than funding the company that is bringing you the game.



    and while I admire people who only patronize companies they think are "socially responsible" I wonder if you research every company you patronize as a lot of them do a lot of questionable things.



    You don't get it, they trigger envy, one of the worst human emotions hence the anger over their existence.

    Sure, few will admit to it, but it makes people feel bad hence the outcry.
    Yeah we all used to snicker at Liberace and fat Vegas Elvis because we were envious... that must have been it. 

    Gambling boxes in MMOs (and the often tacky stuff in them) don't provoke any feelings in me anywhere in the envy spectrum but I understand why people who like them would like to think that's it. Whenever I took the Bartle test, conspicuous consumption was never the result I got. :)

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  • Joseph_KerrJoseph_Kerr Member RarePosts: 1,113
    RNG loot boxes never make a game better. It's just a greedy tactic employed to get more for less and ESO is no exception. Where before you could just buy that mount or outfit you wanted directly from the CS, now you have to buy a bunch of RNG loot boxes and hope for the best, it's a joke.

    These things could just as easily be available via the regular CS but instead they want to lock it behind a loot box to maximize profits at the expense of their game and fairness which is very telling of the direction that Zenimax is taking ESO.

    It's not about bettering the game, it's about using it as a tool to best serve their financial goals which inevitably will be to the detriment of the game and if you believe the sale of loot boxes will further the development of a game that already releases DLC every few months then you probably believe the Earth is flat and humans have never been to the moon.

    These things always start out 'harmless' but they never end that way.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000


    What inevitably happens if they prove popular, you will start seeing things that are exclusive to those only, things will move to other things that aren't just cosmetic, and may have drop rates lowered on certain items that prove the most popular in "encourage" more spending.



    Exactly...

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  • Sassy_Gay_UnicornSassy_Gay_Unicorn Member UncommonPosts: 316


    I will probably buy special stuff for housing (which will undoubtedly come with the DLC) with my crowns, but otherwise, they're just burning a hole in my pocket. I don't like that I can't just buy a mount directly but the Crown Gem trade works well to help do just that over time.



    I spent $200 on the Crown Crates and feel I got my money's worth. Ironically I got two of the Storm Wolf cards (the second one game me something like 130 gems). If there had been a way to gift it instead I would have gladly given it to you Bill. Maybe they will add that feature in at a later date.

    After getting all the items I wanted I cashed in everything else and now have around 500 gems. I'll be hanging onto those for the next Season. I hope Dwemer is the next one.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,769
    I will probably buy special stuff for housing (which will undoubtedly come with the DLC) with my crowns, but otherwise, they're just burning a hole in my pocket. I don't like that I can't just buy a mount directly but the Crown Gem trade works well to help do just that over time.

    Well, you did this for work so it is a tax deduction.
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  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    edited December 2016
    What else are guys that sub and get 'free' crowns going to spend them on? I am sure that was part of it as well. But obviously if they have guys buying the 5500 crown pack at 40 bucks a whack over and over again then they arent going to complain. Or you could sub for 6 months get 9K crowns up front and pay only 78 bucks

    The best part is that its not really a crate its a guy dealing cards to you. Nothing subtle there. But you have to give them points for originality there have been more than a dozen of these cash grab tactics with boxes. Some were actual boxes you clicked, some were keys, some were boxes you needed keys to unlock.. But buying a crate (presumably the one the guy is sitting on) so he can deal you cards is pretty awesome.

    Hopefully the high end ones he gets a crate and a table....
  • NickcsNickcs Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Got lucky and got two mounts from the 15 crate pack i bought.One of em the Storm Bear.
    I like the option, to contribute to ESO - while perhaps being lucky with the loot cards.. But thats it for me. Hopefully people will be able to control it, and not go on a spender spree.

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  • ApexTKMApexTKM Member UncommonPosts: 334
    I will probably buy special stuff for housing (which will undoubtedly come with the DLC) with my crowns, but otherwise, they're just burning a hole in my pocket. I don't like that I can't just buy a mount directly but the Crown Gem trade works well to help do just that over time.
    wait what, I'm confused. you can't just buy cosmetic items directly anymore? like the lion mount etc. all cosmetics are now in the rng box?
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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698
    ApexTKM said:
    I will probably buy special stuff for housing (which will undoubtedly come with the DLC) with my crowns, but otherwise, they're just burning a hole in my pocket. I don't like that I can't just buy a mount directly but the Crown Gem trade works well to help do just that over time.
    wait what, I'm confused. you can't just buy cosmetic items directly anymore? like the lion mount etc. all cosmetics are now in the rng box?
    There are plenty of stuff still outside of the boxes. Why comment in a thread when you clearly arent following the game anymore.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,769
    DMKano said:
    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:

    Scorchien said:

    Good Vid Bill , i got bout 12k Crowns , gonna jump in and see if get lucky....



    you can always buy more til you get lucky.
                 I have the 12k from subbin ,might as well do something with themm.. no plans on buying Crowns ... So whats your point ..ohh n/vm ..you dont have one

    You said "if I get lucky"

    I said - you can keep buying more crates until you get what you are looking for, so you simply keep spending until desired loot.

    So just keep getting crates, easy

    Can people who get those specials sell them to people who want to buy them?  Would that be cheaper on average?
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