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Reliving My Childhood Through MMOs a Column at MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited September 2016 in News & Features Discussion

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My daughter and I regularly go exploring in the woods not too far from where we live. She’s five and on Sunday we were joined by my nephew, who’s also the same age. Despite living in the city, where we live is incredibly green and the woods stretch on for miles. We explored for hours, searching under logs, hunting down Goblins that were hiding amongst the bushes and running away from bears. Any tree markers we saw, Lily and Luca were convinced was the writing of Trolls.

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  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    I agree with everything except that i would switch MMOs and single player RPGs.

    I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high
    And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
    Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
    And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore

  • LoudWisperLoudWisper Member UncommonPosts: 76
    Been through all that and its what i love about mmo's. To me single player rpg's have never done it for me. I have tried. But to know a worlds is existing while I am gone and that I can enter, nothing will ever live up to that. All my kids (most grown up now) play also but some mmo's are not their first choice. They will though always be mine.
  • blbetablbeta Member UncommonPosts: 144
    That is a lot of it for me as well. I have recently been playing Ark Survival Evolved. While not an MMO the world has that exploration feel to it for me.

    We currently play on our own private servers it is great. Now most of my people have moved to TheCenter from TheIsland, world maps. They did this because one of them was researching about the two world maps. I will join them once I lose that feeling with TheIsland.

    What I do not get is looking things like this up, as it very often ruins the mystery of exploration. I am with you the mystery of exploration is great and I did do a lot of exploring as a child.

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Like the poster above me, I have a private Ark server that I play on with my young boys and we have a lot of fun. We usually change games every 4 to 6 months to keep that exploration feeling going.
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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Forget exploring man. Today its all about open world pvp so everyone can just kill each other and its cheaper to make mmo's without questing and exploring.
  • karter64karter64 Member UncommonPosts: 96
    Exploring was always my favorite part Asherons Call. I could run around for hours in no particular directions and just look.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    I always felt exploration depended on who you did it with. I can remember times in FFXI first starting out with a group of people I became friends with after a party in the dunes. We leveled up to 40 or 50 together, doing missions and exploring areas with mobs way to above our levels. We'd spend hours trying to get through just 1 zone because we'd die a lot and it was actually fun. I can't say that I've had experiences like that since back then. Maybe because I've been playing mmorpgs too long and just care about what the endgame has to offer me in a new game way before I hit cap since I know that's where most of my time will be. It would be nice to have that "innocence" back though.
  • mrputtsmrputts Member UncommonPosts: 283
    Get these kids Some paper and some Dice

    Ea is like a poo fingered midas ~ShakyMo

  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 457
    Finding new worlds to explore is part of the fun.

    Seaspite
    Playing ESO on my X-Box


  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Great read

    sigh... I really miss those days with my kids as children.

    Enjoy your children as much as you possibly can, never take them for granted. It all rushes by so very quickly, cherish the moments :)

    The thing about MMORPG's is that in a way, they really are other worlds. 

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  • MikeMossMikeMoss Member UncommonPosts: 66
    edited September 2016
    Hi

    I love MMOs and I'm 78 years old, started with Ultima Online 20 years ago. I've played and beta tested most of the major MMOs since.

    Playing the games is about capturing that feeling we had as kids when we would explore the woods that followed the river that ran along the south side of the city we lived in.

    When I was about 10 or 11 in the 1940s we discovered that we could get into the storm drains that ran under the south east part of the city, where they emptied into the river.

    At the exit it was big enough to walk upright in.

    We walked in until we could no longer see the entrance, and it was pitch dark.
    We didn't know that Storm Drains are pretty straight forward with smaller tubes leading into a larger main tube and getting lost wasn't really an option.

    The next day we came back with flashlights and chalk to mark the walls.

    The really great thing was that after we went in a way, we would find marking on the walls that would say things like "Tom and Jack, 1929", "Bob and Sam, 1937" etc. going farther and farther in.

    During that summer we explored as far as we could go, eventually having to crawl through smaller and smaller pipes until they were just too small to crawl through.

    There were ladders going up through cylindrical shafts that ascended where ever there was a manhole cover on the surface. The farther from the river we got the deeper we were.

    In some places we could see enough through the holes to tell where we were at a certain intersection under the streets, so we were able to establish that we had gone several miles from the river.

    It was one of the greatest adventures of our lives.
    When I enter some new underground cavern in a computer game, I always think back to wandering around under the city when I was a kid.

    Mike

    If you shoot a mime, do you have to use a silencer?

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Nothing in any MMO I have ever played reminds me of any of those movies even remotely. And most of them are favorites from my childhood. Incidentally, Coraline is fairly new and I wouldn't put it in the same category as the others.

    Now single player games... there are some that I would put in the same level of excellence. Most of them are Bioware games.
  • iDigDinosiDigDinos Member UncommonPosts: 34
    What MMO is the picture from?

    I love exploring in MMOs.i love learning hidden secrets or Easter eggs that developers might put in games. I find the journey way more engaging than the destination.

    image
  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667
    Bravo on the feature @PersistentWorld. I grew up next to a railroad track behind a gas station. It amazes me what I did and where I played by myself as a three year old back then. I'm an MMO harvester, so I love to explore and mainly find harvesting nodes. I also like to stand, where I'm not supposes to. If I can clime some tall building, then jump off and land on some meant to be inaccessible mountain top. All the better. I also think that a human populated MMO beats a single player game any day of the week.

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited September 2016
    MikeMoss said:
    Hi

    I love MMOs and I'm 78 years old, started with Ultima Online 20 years ago. I've played and beta tested most of the major MMOs since.

    Playing the games is about capturing that feeling we had as kids when we would explore the woods that followed the river that ran along the south side of the city we lived in.

    When I was about 10 or 11 in the 1940s we discovered that we could get into the storm drains that ran under the south east part of the city, where they emptied into the river.

    At the exit it was big enough to walk upright in.

    We walked in until we could no longer see the entrance, and it was pitch dark.
    We didn't know that Storm Drains are pretty straight forward with smaller tubes leading into a larger main tube and getting lost wasn't really an option.

    The next day we came back with flashlights and chalk to mark the walls.

    The really great thing was that after we went in a way, we would find marking on the walls that would say things like "Tom and Jack, 1929", "Bob and Sam, 1937" etc. going farther and farther in.

    During that summer we explored as far as we could go, eventually having to crawl through smaller and smaller pipes until they were just too small to crawl through.

    There were ladders going up through cylindrical shafts that ascended where ever there was a manhole cover on the surface. The farther from the river we got the deeper we were.

    In some places we could see enough through the holes to tell where we were at a certain intersection under the streets, so we were able to establish that we had gone several miles from the river.

    It was one of the greatest adventures of our lives.
    When I enter some new underground cavern in a computer game, I always think back to wandering around under the city when I was a kid.

    Mike
    You're a year younger than my parents Mike ;)

    I was blessed to grow up in a similar time where my childhood friends and I shared many similar experiences. 

    Sometimes I see parents these days dropping their children off at school, then picking them up afterwards. It seems the world has become too dangerous a place for these kids to go and enjoy the same kinds of adventures as we did.

    It makes me wonder.... What did we do?  How did this happen?

    Cheers Mike

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,769
    MikeMoss said:
    Hi

    I love MMOs and I'm 78 years old, started with Ultima Online 20 years ago. I've played and beta tested most of the major MMOs since.

    Playing the games is about capturing that feeling we had as kids when we would explore the woods that followed the river that ran along the south side of the city we lived in.

    When I was about 10 or 11 in the 1940s we discovered that we could get into the storm drains that ran under the south east part of the city, where they emptied into the river.

    At the exit it was big enough to walk upright in.

    We walked in until we could no longer see the entrance, and it was pitch dark.
    We didn't know that Storm Drains are pretty straight forward with smaller tubes leading into a larger main tube and getting lost wasn't really an option.

    The next day we came back with flashlights and chalk to mark the walls.

    The really great thing was that after we went in a way, we would find marking on the walls that would say things like "Tom and Jack, 1929", "Bob and Sam, 1937" etc. going farther and farther in.

    During that summer we explored as far as we could go, eventually having to crawl through smaller and smaller pipes until they were just too small to crawl through.

    There were ladders going up through cylindrical shafts that ascended where ever there was a manhole cover on the surface. The farther from the river we got the deeper we were.

    In some places we could see enough through the holes to tell where we were at a certain intersection under the streets, so we were able to establish that we had gone several miles from the river.

    It was one of the greatest adventures of our lives.
    When I enter some new underground cavern in a computer game, I always think back to wandering around under the city when I was a kid.

    Mike

    Great stuff.

    We used to build tree forts in the woods and an underground one too.  We had a spring fed lake in town and there was an overflow that went under a street.  We could use an inflatable raft to back up water then lift it up and ride the water through the tunnel.  Fun stuff.

    Later on we had a summer place up in Baraboo Wisconsin and I used to spent a lot of time walking around Devils Lake.  Fun Stuff.
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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,364

    iDigDinos said:

    What MMO is the picture from?



    I love exploring in MMOs.i love learning hidden secrets or Easter eggs that developers might put in games. I find the journey way more engaging than the destination.



    Gw2:HoT 90%
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Hariken said:
    Forget exploring man. Today its all about open world pvp so everyone can just kill each other and its cheaper to make mmo's without questing and exploring.
    Uhm, I thought there were fewer open world PvP games nowadays not more. Adding room for exploration is indeed rather costly but quests are by far the cheapest content you can make. Most quests are incredible easy to write and code, certain like protection the suicidal npc takes a little more but it is still not much work at all, the hardest thing is to figure out more reasons for players to go out and kill 10 mobs.

    Just having a sandbox with open world PvP might sound cheap and easy (so did the devs who worked on PFO believe, that went well for them) but that is actually not true. Meaningful and good PvP takes a lot of hard work and making tools for players in a sandbox game is way harder then a basic themepark.

    The one thing about MMOs that changed most is that the worlds have become a lot smaller and zones are more crowded with things. In a game like EQ you didn't have to have loads of mobs just everywhere since the world was so huge leaving a lot of room to add places for the explorers. With smaller games that just goes away.
  • PersistentWorldPersistentWorld Member UncommonPosts: 26

    iDigDinos said:

    What MMO is the picture from?



    I love exploring in MMOs.i love learning hidden secrets or Easter eggs that developers might put in games. I find the journey way more engaging than the destination.



    Guild Wars 2, Heart of Thorns!
  • JMulla2016JMulla2016 Member UncommonPosts: 12
    Great read, Mr. Burnell.

    Exploration is the thing about games that essentially makes me play them. There's nothing better than the sense of exploring unknown. Personally, I don't mind the single player games and the experience/interaction regarding NPCs. Often I find them much more pleasant and interactive than fellow gamers. I guess it depends on the game or my mood, but there's no denying there's nothing better than a proper human interaction.
  • iDigDinosiDigDinos Member UncommonPosts: 34

    Warlyx said:



    iDigDinos said:


    What MMO is the picture from?





    I love exploring in MMOs.i love learning hidden secrets or Easter eggs that developers might put in games. I find the journey way more engaging than the destination.






    Gw2:HoT 90%




    Thank you very much

    image
  • iDigDinosiDigDinos Member UncommonPosts: 34




    iDigDinos said:


    What MMO is the picture from?





    I love exploring in MMOs.i love learning hidden secrets or Easter eggs that developers might put in games. I find the journey way more engaging than the destination.






    Guild Wars 2, Heart of Thorns!



    Thank you :)

    image
  • Zarkin86Zarkin86 Member UncommonPosts: 122
    sounds like a lot of fun :D i havent understood this part though: "She’s been raised on the likes of Willow, Labyrinth, Coraline and Dark Crystal." < are these child books?
  • CyraelCyrael Member UncommonPosts: 239
    For fans of exploration, I highly recommend Xenoblade Chronicles X. While it's an okay RPG, it's a fantastic adventure and exploration game.
  • PersistentWorldPersistentWorld Member UncommonPosts: 26

    Zarkin86 said:

    sounds like a lot of fun :D i havent understood this part though: "She’s been raised on the likes of Willow, Labyrinth, Coraline and Dark Crystal." < are these child books?



    Fantastic films!
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