Originally posted by Traken I'd say something witty...but that's been taken care of.The graphics in place are set to "Low." When release hits you will have bushes, grass, trees, better textures, hopefully some better modelling on buildings, and hopefully a little less strange bone arangement for people. Anyways, I still play Morrowind and am playing through Gothic right now. They are ugly (morrowind gets better with mods) but are down-right fun to play.
Hopefully it will have this, and hopefully it will have that.
If they need to turn their graphics down to test 'gameplay', there is something seriously wrong - especially with the kind of systems people have in this day and age.
I chalk it up to a poor graphics engine because they just don't have the resources to make or buy a better one. And since the game has been built around it, they will not get much better than what you are seeing now.
For all those waiting patiently to play it, have fun anyway!
Originally posted by Traken I'd say something witty...but that's been taken care of.
The graphics in place are set to "Low." When release hits you will have bushes, grass, trees, better textures, hopefully some better modelling on buildings, and hopefully a little less strange bone arangement for people. Anyways, I still play Morrowind and am playing through Gothic right now. They are ugly (morrowind gets better with mods) but are down-right fun to play.
Hopefully it will have this, and hopefully it will have that.
If they need to turn their graphics down to test 'gameplay', there is something seriously wrong - especially with the kind of systems people have in this day and age.
I chalk it up to a poor graphics engine because they just don't have the resources to make or buy a better one. And since the game has been built around it, they will not get much better than what you are seeing now.
For all those waiting patiently to play it, have fun anyway!
In the review Ferox wrote he said there were some stability issues so that could be one reason for having graphics turned down.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open. Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
People have said it time and time again. Yes, the graphics look bad, you have to keep in mind it's beta. I'm not saying this game is going to have amazing graphics but even when they are on the lowest quality, which they are set at right now, it's not half bad. I enjoy pretty graphics as much as the next guy, so I'm just waiting until they are close to being done the game and can give us 'true' screenshots. Until then, remember it's an unfinished game so you can only be so critical.
Just from looking at the more recent screen shots, I dont think this game is ugly at all. You have to look at the characters instead of the terrain. Im sure the terrain is whats turned down graphics wise and will be able to be adjusted up in time. I actually like the graphics myself. It would be nice to see a screenie with the graphics turned up though..../hint hint
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
I am only concerned with how boxy everything looks. I know the reasoning behind the detail being left out but I haven't seen one screenshot that doesn't look like some kind of cheap educational DOS program made for elementary school children in the mid 1990s.
you guys keep talking about bad graphics hehe, take a look at DAoC, look at the graphics they started with on then look at what they have now, that game is a perfect example of a good dev team, (I have not played since SI, but I did play on the 14 day trial a couple weeks ago with the camolot engine, wow!)
if roma-victor updates there graphics with every major expansion like daoc did, they will have no problems
The sole fact that they've put off the graphics to concentrate on making sure the gameplay is working correctly tells me this game's developers are light years ahead of 99% of mmo devs out there.
SWG has proven that good graphics will not carry a game... but I just cant see this game getting released anytime in the next two years.
I hope they delay this until it is much more complete... otherwise it will suffer a WWII online launch (which 5 years later it is still suffering a bad reputation for inspite of being a great game now)
Is there any way to "try out" this "perfect" game play in advanche?
IF the gfx keeps the same it was in 2004 (copyright of the screens is from 2004?) the game is not playable, even with "uber game play" - well - I ll try to take a look ^^
This topic is enormous! Good to see RV have so much support! I also belive this topic is useless. Just because some .... belive the graphics aren't good (anyway, they are) it's no need to start a discussion 12 pages long!
I don't know how many times it has been said in the 12 pages but graphics < gameplay. A game being pretty won't keep the playerbase interested nearly as long as good gameplay will.
/<puts on father's voice> I tell you this fixation with graphics has shown how spoiled and decadent gamers have become why back in the eighties we didn't even have graphics ,or a mouse for that matter! /<father's voice off> We use to have to use something really interesting our own imagination, and people wonder why kids are so dumb these days lol.
Let's just face it. Most gamers aren't exactly proffesors in history!
Sad but true. I always enjoyed a game better set in a historical context by reading up on it that way I could appreciate things a bit more. In this particular case though I was taught that knowledge in a 10th grade world history class. Defintly a long way away from high end university history courses. Although if High School history is anything like elementary level is now (my wife is a elementary school teacher) its probably all just a bunch of touchy feely liberal crap anyways so in the end you may be correct.
Originally posted by royalsea3 I'm happy you think its ugly, hopefully this means I won't see you ingame when I play it. If you actually cared, those screenshots don't have all the graphics turned on. RedBedlam don't care at the moment what there screens look like, and for christ sakes. I've played runescape and 2D games, these graphics look like a god sent from what I usually play that have alot of content.
even if the graphics are bad, i agree and hope it turns away the idiots
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Hopefully it will have this, and hopefully it will have that.
If they need to turn their graphics down to test 'gameplay', there is something seriously wrong - especially with the kind of systems people have in this day and age.
I chalk it up to a poor graphics engine because they just don't have the resources to make or buy a better one. And since the game has been built around it, they will not get much better than what you are seeing now.
For all those waiting patiently to play it, have fun anyway!
Hopefully it will have this, and hopefully it will have that.
If they need to turn their graphics down to test 'gameplay', there is something seriously wrong - especially with the kind of systems people have in this day and age.
I chalk it up to a poor graphics engine because they just don't have the resources to make or buy a better one. And since the game has been built around it, they will not get much better than what you are seeing now.
For all those waiting patiently to play it, have fun anyway!
In the review Ferox wrote he said there were some stability issues so that could be one reason for having graphics turned down.
Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
People have said it time and time again. Yes, the graphics look bad, you have to keep in mind it's beta. I'm not saying this game is going to have amazing graphics but even when they are on the lowest quality, which they are set at right now, it's not half bad. I enjoy pretty graphics as much as the next guy, so I'm just waiting until they are close to being done the game and can give us 'true' screenshots. Until then, remember it's an unfinished game so you can only be so critical.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
you guys keep talking about bad graphics hehe, take a look at DAoC, look at the graphics they started with on then look at what they have now, that game is a perfect example of a good dev team, (I have not played since SI, but I did play on the 14 day trial a couple weeks ago with the camolot engine, wow!)
if roma-victor updates there graphics with every major expansion like daoc did, they will have no problems
Ceraphim
SWG has proven that good graphics will not carry a game... but I just cant see this game getting released anytime in the next two years.
I hope they delay this until it is much more complete... otherwise it will suffer a WWII online launch (which 5 years later it is still suffering a bad reputation for inspite of being a great game now)
Is there any way to "try out" this "perfect" game play in advanche?
IF the gfx keeps the same it was in 2004 (copyright of the screens is from 2004?) the game is not playable, even with "uber game play" - well - I ll try to take a look ^^
There is currently no trial version as of yet.
I am pretty sure this is what RBL has in mind
http://rv.mmosite.com/sreenshots/ss1.shtml
This topic is enormous! Good to see RV have so much support! I also belive this topic is useless. Just because some .... belive the graphics aren't good (anyway, they are) it's no need to start a discussion 12 pages long!
(Anarius here, anyway..)
Why on earth would you play an MMO for the graphics?
Gameplay > Graphics any day of the week on my priority list.
Oh, and if I see one more person say that EVE's graphics are amazingly better than everyone elses, I think I'll scream.
NGE Refugee.
I don't know how many times it has been said in the 12 pages but graphics < gameplay. A game being pretty won't keep the playerbase interested nearly as long as good gameplay will.
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Let's just face it. Most gamers aren't exactly proffesors in history!
Let's just face it. Most gamers aren't exactly proffesors in history!
Sad but true. I always enjoyed a game better set in a historical context by reading up on it that way I could appreciate things a bit more. In this particular case though I was taught that knowledge in a 10th grade world history class. Defintly a long way away from high end university history courses. Although if High School history is anything like elementary level is now (my wife is a elementary school teacher) its probably all just a bunch of touchy feely liberal crap anyways so in the end you may be correct.
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wow sucks it's have animated cartoon graphics for under 12 years childrens.
RV will be a great, complex and mature game.
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Agreed, hopefully the moderate graphics will be the filter that keeps the eye-candy kids away.
Other than that, slap a Mature 17+ rating on the game!
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