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Have you ever seen topics about World of Warcraft and it's rise to power ? Well if you haven't here's the story.
Many say it's success was do to it's timing. MMO's were still in their infancy. Early mmos such as UO, EQ1, and so on were shells of what was to come. As good as these games were they need polish, they needed structure and story. Developers knew this, hence we got several popular mmos. EQ2, DAOC, FF11, CoH, WOW, and EVE just to name a few......BUT during this crucial time of feeding the starving one game stood out with its pristine everything.
That game was World of Warcraft.
It had Graphics that played on a toaster, it had story and its lore, It was an extremely large world for its time, Several starting areas and zones, it was seamless in it's open world, and catered to all ages............ALL THIS WITH IMPECCABLE TIMING !!!
Well, we went full circle and were back at that time again !............Players are once again starving, exactly where we were back in 2003.
This topic came to me because of a topic on the general forums. Something hit me like a ton of bricks. This guy posted a Youtube from a popular mmo reviewer about up coming games for 2016 and 17.
There "ALL" Asian grinders with cash shops !........For the most part this is what we got !
Looking on all Youtubes this is all their is. The West has given up, were back to where we started. The crowed here had changed hands, everyone here likes games online, not mmos........It may as well changed to an automotive forum, where people talk about car parts. One group moved out and another moved in. BUT UNDERSTAND THE REAL MMO PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT THEIR. Infact new mmo players are waiting to be born.
Pantheon Rise of the Fallen has a chance, a very big chance as long as they don't blow it !!!!!!!!......Take your time !!!!!!
THIS IS NOT ABOUT WORLD OF WARCRAFT.......IT'S ABOUT TIMING !!!!!!......PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS.
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WoW was more than a game it was for a time a social event.. it even had Coke Commercials.. (The drink lol)
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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This is not really about WoW....It's about timing !
Thankfully, I could give 2 shits, because this is exactly the game I want. The thing about this game that will truly set it apart is it will bring back an actual community to online gaming, and you can actually make friends again and have a good time versus just playing alone in a massive world of people that you just bypass because it's a pointless waste of time to engage others.
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This game wont change the direction that the current mmo scene (not just mmorpg scene) is in. They are trying to make the niche game a little more appealing to those that may want a game like pantheon but fear they do not have the time to dedicate to it, but they aren't going to main stream it too much. People wanting Pantheon to succeed have to understand that this wont be a huge game. Not because of the team or direction of the game, but because of the current player base that inhabits mmos. Games like mobas and mobile stuff do so hot because they give people instant gratification which can be controlled by them and not the game. Games of the past had to have players pretty much tailored around the game and the community which many people do not want to deal with currently.
The downside is that unlike WoW and more so like the older games like EQ and FFXI that the time/challange and design choices wont appeal to the masses. They will also suffer because they are low budget looking and have no IP behind them. Since both look a lot alike and are both going for generally the same audience it will end up splitting the niche userbase.
Either way i hope one or both do very well and start getting some of these bigger studios to look at and incorperate some of the old school ideals into their games and start to be done with this causal WoW style generation that feels like its been going on way too damn long.
I disagree.....The so called niche player is really the mmo player, it's just that this site changed hands to the "games online" group.
I'm not ragging on the " games on line " people.
I don't think they like the Unicorn and Rainbows crap either !
Pantheon, better have a lot of servers on opening day.
I really like your second paragraph.
" Bringing back the community "
People are not as fragile as people here think. DEVELOPERS FORCED THE UNICORN AND RAINBOW CRAP !
But just because people say it was "timing" doesn't make it true. The whole "many people say" is a weasel phrase that is popular right now. Even if you assume that many people say it doesn't make it true on it's face and it attempts to use "many" to sway people.
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SoL will be the hardcore, old-school, and group-required game.
Brad has said several times that he isn't aiming to recreate EQ and take the old-school hardcore approach. Pantheon will be much more modern and quality-of-life enriched than people are imagining in their fantasies.
Sure, they are aiming to create a group-focused game, but, imho, these two games really are travelling down entirely different branches.
Pantheon will be a modern game. I think alot of people have hyped up their own nostalgic senses too much and are bound to be disappointed.
You may be right waynerjr2
In my opinion the many that say it was timing, I would have to guess and say it was.
Maybe if we sit back and think...........How would Vanilla WoW be accepted today if it were just released.
This may answer the question ?
Agree,
They BETTER get it right !
I see what your saying " so many flavors " so many games.
But no mmos. Working with a group to slowly get something accomplished, something with deep thinking as a group.......We have none ! .......MMO's are like none other.
I do hope it's this game and eve that are the 2 I will be playing for the next 5 to 10 years
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Like I say,
I think people are fed up with the Unicorn and Rainbows.....It will be bigger than people think.
By no means am I putting down the Everquest, but the game is old, 1999.
It's time for new 2016.