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Sandi Gardiner Stops Social Media Over Targeted Harrassment

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    rodarin said:
    The difference is one side recognizes the flaws of itself while the other totally ignores everything negative about their side.
    Both of the sides fall on this. I'm all up for balanced discussions, i can have them sometimes where we height both sides of a story, but it's just not possible on this forum the way everybody is completely one-sided and defensive of their own view. It's like Trump vs Hillary supporters there more they attack each other the more defensive they get. At the end, this only contributes to keep SC on front-pages all over the internet. In here specifically it's same small group of people engaging on this type of SC discussions every single day.
  • MareliusMarelius Member UncommonPosts: 130
    MaxBacon said:
    rodarin said:
    The difference is one side recognizes the flaws of itself while the other totally ignores everything negative about their side.
    Both of the sides fall on this. I'm all up for balanced discussions, i can have them sometimes where we height both sides of a story, but it's just not possible on this forum the way everybody is completely one-sided and defensive of their own view. It's like Trump vs Hillary supporters there more they attack each other the more defensive they get. At the end, this only contributes to keep SC on front-pages all over the internet. In here specifically it's same small group of people engaging on this type of SC discussions every single day.
    Isn't it against the rules to bring politics into the gaming forums? But am impressed you completely ignored his post and went with one little item. That is exactly the problem. No one can take the hard comments about the game and reasons why it was said or done and just skip it all for some point with politics involved. This game isn't more important than electing a new President. It just goes completely off topic. 

    Just wish you would take his post and try and answer it. How about showing exactly why she made the comment and what comment made her say it. You can't just say Smart did it with no proof to that. 
    Sometimes it's not always about what you can see or hear but what's under the hood of a game that's most impressive. Between those thousands and thousands of lines of code, magic happens. Sometimes the most amazing feats of gaming wizardry happen without you even noticing.

    Rob Manuel

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    edited August 2016
    Marelius said:
    Isn't it against the rules to bring politics into the gaming forums? 
    I haven't brought politics over a light reference that wasn't by any means the point of the post. If that was against the rules then rodarin would have already been banned for his post on the previous page.

    About the Smart doing it or not, the exact trigger of what happened is not know, I wasn't claiming at all DSmart did it, was yet going about his history with her on the matter.

  • MareliusMarelius Member UncommonPosts: 130
    MaxBacon said:
    Marelius said:
    Isn't it against the rules to bring politics into the gaming forums? 
    I haven't brought politics over a light reference that wasn't by any means the point of the post. If that was against the rules then rodarin would have already been banned for his post on the previous page.

    About the Smart doing it or not, the exact trigger of what happened is not know, I wasn't claiming at all DSmart did it, was yet going about his history with her on the matter.

    Or her history with him, right? I don't think we can really call her an innocent party in all this can we? 
    Sometimes it's not always about what you can see or hear but what's under the hood of a game that's most impressive. Between those thousands and thousands of lines of code, magic happens. Sometimes the most amazing feats of gaming wizardry happen without you even noticing.

    Rob Manuel

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    Marelius said:
    MaxBacon said:
    rodarin said:
    The difference is one side recognizes the flaws of itself while the other totally ignores everything negative about their side.
    Both of the sides fall on this. I'm all up for balanced discussions, i can have them sometimes where we height both sides of a story, but it's just not possible on this forum the way everybody is completely one-sided and defensive of their own view. It's like Trump vs Hillary supporters there more they attack each other the more defensive they get. At the end, this only contributes to keep SC on front-pages all over the internet. In here specifically it's same small group of people engaging on this type of SC discussions every single day.
    Isn't it against the rules to bring politics into the gaming forums? But am impressed you completely ignored his post and went with one little item. That is exactly the problem. No one can take the hard comments about the game and reasons why it was said or done and just skip it all for some point with politics involved. This game isn't more important than electing a new President. It just goes completely off topic. 

    Just wish you would take his post and try and answer it. How about showing exactly why she made the comment and what comment made her say it. You can't just say Smart did it with no proof to that. 
    You just validated his writing about selective perception and fact twisting. What he did is compare the pro / anti SC advocates with Trump / Hillary supporters as they display similar trends. Your response was to accuse him for bring politics to the forums something he clearly did not do.

    It's just that you saw it this way through your extremely biased prism.

    Then you proceeded once more in defending DS despite the fact that MaxBacon's reply had nothing to do with DS. It was about how SC fans & anti fans approach each other. His name wasn't mentioned at all.

    As for replying to rodarin. The guy has a history of making walls of text where he mocks and characterizes users who dare to express different opinions than him or God Forbid talk positive about SC.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    rodarin said:

    Regardless this has been a 3 day firestorm (on this forum and derek smarts twitter feed, the only 2 places anyone cares about star citizen these days),
    Sure - only these two places.

    Who needs Reddit anyway ?  Or Twitter (#istandwithsandi) ? Or the official forum ? Or Facebook ?

    Or gaming magazines/Websites (like GameStar, PurePlaystation, PCGamesHardware, Games-News, PCGames, MMO Attack etc.)

    ....when "only two places care about Star Citizen these days" .....



    Have fun

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:

    Regardless this has been a 3 day firestorm (on this forum and derek smarts twitter feed, the only 2 places anyone cares about star citizen these days),
    Sure - only these two places.

    Who needs Reddit anyway ?  Or Twitter (#istandwithsandi) ? Or the official forum ? Or Facebook ?

    Or gaming magazines/Websites (like GameStar, PurePlaystation, PCGamesHardware, Games-News, PCGames, MMO Attack etc.)

    ....when "only two places care about Star Citizen these days" .....



    Have fun

    You should stop doing this.

    You're continuously letting details spoil cool stories and shatter people's dreams.
  • MareliusMarelius Member UncommonPosts: 130
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:

    Regardless this has been a 3 day firestorm (on this forum and derek smarts twitter feed, the only 2 places anyone cares about star citizen these days),
    Sure - only these two places.

    Who needs Reddit anyway ?  Or Twitter (#istandwithsandi) ? Or the official forum ? Or Facebook ?

    Or gaming magazines/Websites (like GameStar, PurePlaystation, PCGamesHardware, Games-News, PCGames, MMO Attack etc.)

    ....when "only two places care about Star Citizen these days" .....



    Have fun

    Reddit is a joke, any negative gets modded fast and or voted down. Reddit is the Star Citizen second home. 
    Sometimes it's not always about what you can see or hear but what's under the hood of a game that's most impressive. Between those thousands and thousands of lines of code, magic happens. Sometimes the most amazing feats of gaming wizardry happen without you even noticing.

    Rob Manuel

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Marelius said:
    Shodanas said:
    Marelius said:
    Shocked this hasn't been closed yet. Love how it never ends and all from the same people that by what I see need to protect Roberts and Star Citizen at all costs. But I can see why people on the outside get so entranced with this in my opinion failed game. Just unbelieveable! 
    What is unbelievable is the fact that you and 2 others immediately jumped in DS's defense and went in all possible lengths and efforts in order to rationalize and sanctify his actions by twisting info and extrapolating hilarious stuff out of nothing. Even the ones concerning his children. It is apparent that the minute you and others see the words "Star Citizen" drop any moral, rationality or ethic boundaries and are more than ready to indiscriminately throw mud at everyone involved with SC.

    One even characterized Suzie Ford as being "disconnected from reality" just for expressing her opinion and siding with Sandi Gardiner.
    I only went with facts I could understand. 

    1. Did Sandi and Roberts post pics of their child on a PUBLIC site? Answer = Yes!

    1a. That would give people the right to share the child's pics. But why haven't you guys gone after the person Smart retweeted? Isn't that person really the guilty one by your definition? Bet you don't even know the person's name that did original tweet? Heck it could have been a complete setup by Roberts side just to get Smart to tweet it. 

    (sorry really into mystery's and this is turning into a great one)

    2. Very apparent you guys do the exact same thing. Heck took less than 25 minutes to answer any thread in Star Citizen. So you really should just leave that one alone, you guys monitor this forums which really amazes me and am sure others do the same. 
    Anybody who use sombodies children in any form of an attack no matter where they got the pictures from is a fucking creep period.

    Give your head a fucking shake.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Folks need to stop bringing up politics in MMORPG conversations. The people who do it typically can't even navigate fact, fiction, and opinion in regard to MMORPGs and the folks involved with them. How about conquer the subject at hand before venturing into further "I don't know what the FUCK I'm talking about" territory. Thanks. 

    This forum needs weekend moderators.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    @FlyByKnight if you are so outraged feel free to report the posts instead of making a moralist speech about it. Wouldn't doing that be also against the forum rules?
  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 Member UncommonPosts: 348
    laserit said:
    Marelius said:
    Shodanas said:
    Marelius said:
    Shocked this hasn't been closed yet. Love how it never ends and all from the same people that by what I see need to protect Roberts and Star Citizen at all costs. But I can see why people on the outside get so entranced with this in my opinion failed game. Just unbelieveable! 
    What is unbelievable is the fact that you and 2 others immediately jumped in DS's defense and went in all possible lengths and efforts in order to rationalize and sanctify his actions by twisting info and extrapolating hilarious stuff out of nothing. Even the ones concerning his children. It is apparent that the minute you and others see the words "Star Citizen" drop any moral, rationality or ethic boundaries and are more than ready to indiscriminately throw mud at everyone involved with SC.

    One even characterized Suzie Ford as being "disconnected from reality" just for expressing her opinion and siding with Sandi Gardiner.
    I only went with facts I could understand. 

    1. Did Sandi and Roberts post pics of their child on a PUBLIC site? Answer = Yes!

    1a. That would give people the right to share the child's pics. But why haven't you guys gone after the person Smart retweeted? Isn't that person really the guilty one by your definition? Bet you don't even know the person's name that did original tweet? Heck it could have been a complete setup by Roberts side just to get Smart to tweet it. 

    (sorry really into mystery's and this is turning into a great one)

    2. Very apparent you guys do the exact same thing. Heck took less than 25 minutes to answer any thread in Star Citizen. So you really should just leave that one alone, you guys monitor this forums which really amazes me and am sure others do the same. 
    Anybody who use sombodies children in any form of an attack no matter where they got the pictures from is a fucking creep period.

    Give your head a fucking shake.
    I think the pictures in question, were used as evidence that Sandi was married to Chris, something they were trying to keep quiet for reasons unknown.
    “Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” 
    ― Terry PratchettMaking Money
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited August 2016
    laserit said:
    Marelius said:
    Shodanas said:
    Marelius said:
    Shocked this hasn't been closed yet. Love how it never ends and all from the same people that by what I see need to protect Roberts and Star Citizen at all costs. But I can see why people on the outside get so entranced with this in my opinion failed game. Just unbelieveable! 
    What is unbelievable is the fact that you and 2 others immediately jumped in DS's defense and went in all possible lengths and efforts in order to rationalize and sanctify his actions by twisting info and extrapolating hilarious stuff out of nothing. Even the ones concerning his children. It is apparent that the minute you and others see the words "Star Citizen" drop any moral, rationality or ethic boundaries and are more than ready to indiscriminately throw mud at everyone involved with SC.

    One even characterized Suzie Ford as being "disconnected from reality" just for expressing her opinion and siding with Sandi Gardiner.
    I only went with facts I could understand. 

    1. Did Sandi and Roberts post pics of their child on a PUBLIC site? Answer = Yes!

    1a. That would give people the right to share the child's pics. But why haven't you guys gone after the person Smart retweeted? Isn't that person really the guilty one by your definition? Bet you don't even know the person's name that did original tweet? Heck it could have been a complete setup by Roberts side just to get Smart to tweet it. 

    (sorry really into mystery's and this is turning into a great one)

    2. Very apparent you guys do the exact same thing. Heck took less than 25 minutes to answer any thread in Star Citizen. So you really should just leave that one alone, you guys monitor this forums which really amazes me and am sure others do the same. 
    Anybody who use sombodies children in any form of an attack no matter where they got the pictures from is a fucking creep period.

    Give your head a fucking shake.
     He didn't use their child to attack them. He used them to prove they were married. Exaggerate more please
  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    SBFord said:

    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.



    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.



    So you are claiming if Chris Roberts was gay and had an husband instead this would not have happened? I am sure it would.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    vorpal28 said:
    laserit said:
    Marelius said:
    Shodanas said:
    Marelius said:
    Shocked this hasn't been closed yet. Love how it never ends and all from the same people that by what I see need to protect Roberts and Star Citizen at all costs. But I can see why people on the outside get so entranced with this in my opinion failed game. Just unbelieveable! 
    What is unbelievable is the fact that you and 2 others immediately jumped in DS's defense and went in all possible lengths and efforts in order to rationalize and sanctify his actions by twisting info and extrapolating hilarious stuff out of nothing. Even the ones concerning his children. It is apparent that the minute you and others see the words "Star Citizen" drop any moral, rationality or ethic boundaries and are more than ready to indiscriminately throw mud at everyone involved with SC.

    One even characterized Suzie Ford as being "disconnected from reality" just for expressing her opinion and siding with Sandi Gardiner.
    I only went with facts I could understand. 

    1. Did Sandi and Roberts post pics of their child on a PUBLIC site? Answer = Yes!

    1a. That would give people the right to share the child's pics. But why haven't you guys gone after the person Smart retweeted? Isn't that person really the guilty one by your definition? Bet you don't even know the person's name that did original tweet? Heck it could have been a complete setup by Roberts side just to get Smart to tweet it. 

    (sorry really into mystery's and this is turning into a great one)

    2. Very apparent you guys do the exact same thing. Heck took less than 25 minutes to answer any thread in Star Citizen. So you really should just leave that one alone, you guys monitor this forums which really amazes me and am sure others do the same. 
    Anybody who use sombodies children in any form of an attack no matter where they got the pictures from is a fucking creep period.

    Give your head a fucking shake.
    I think the pictures in question, were used as evidence that Sandi was married to Chris, something they were trying to keep quiet for reasons unknown.
    These days children are no proof of whether someone is married or not and sharing the children's photos and involving them in this melodrama is plainly wrong wrong wrong.

    Too many creeps in the world as there is. Last thing a responsible adult would want to do is link innocent children into an SC controversy.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    Marelius said:
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:

    Regardless this has been a 3 day firestorm (on this forum and derek smarts twitter feed, the only 2 places anyone cares about star citizen these days),
    Sure - only these two places.

    Who needs Reddit anyway ?  Or Twitter (#istandwithsandi) ? Or the official forum ? Or Facebook ?

    Or gaming magazines/Websites (like GameStar, PurePlaystation, PCGamesHardware, Games-News, PCGames, MMO Attack etc.)

    ....when "only two places care about Star Citizen these days" .....



    Have fun

    Reddit is a joke, any negative gets modded fast and or voted down. Reddit is the Star Citizen second home. 
    Anything not fitting your views or not aligning with your takes is frowned upon and talked down.

    Do you even realize how biased and narrow minded this makes you come forth ?

    Every time someone tries to make a conversation with valid arguments instead of hyperbole and speculation you respond with posts like the above.

    It is obvious that you're here with a specific agenda and are only interested in orating, repeating the same stuff over and over again.

    So, go ahead say your pieces. Personally i wont waste any further time on you.
  • gir243gir243 Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Marelius said:
    Erillion said:
    rodarin said:

    Regardless this has been a 3 day firestorm (on this forum and derek smarts twitter feed, the only 2 places anyone cares about star citizen these days),
    Sure - only these two places.

    Who needs Reddit anyway ?  Or Twitter (#istandwithsandi) ? Or the official forum ? Or Facebook ?

    Or gaming magazines/Websites (like GameStar, PurePlaystation, PCGamesHardware, Games-News, PCGames, MMO Attack etc.)

    ....when "only two places care about Star Citizen these days" .....



    Have fun

    Reddit is a joke, any negative gets modded fast and or voted down. Reddit is the Star Citizen second home. 
    Are you the dude that had Eastwood as his avatar?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    I was already called several times "DS Alt Account" on reddit when having some discussions. Putting labels on people is no good yet that's what we see everywhere, X group is this, Y group is that.

    Problem is trolls and so on constantly create fake accounts to just go on trolling and "concern-posting" on SC's Reddit with the solo purpose of drive drama and flame wars, this happens constantly far i lurk around on it... This ends up by pretty much  by people who touches the topics where the trolling is usually at to end up being taken as one...

    :dizzy:
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    MaxBacon said:
    @FlyByKnight if you are so outraged feel free to report the posts instead of making a moralist speech about it. Wouldn't doing that be also against the forum rules?
    What does this mean? What is? Wha... What?


    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    edited August 2016
    What does this mean? What is? Wha... What?
    When you're calling out for moderation publicly instead of reporting usually you are as fault as the thing you are complaining about. This is usually sanctioned on many forums however i don't know specifics of how it works here...

    .edit, actually after searching a bit it seems you're free to cry out for or about the moderation on the forums here, unless i'm seeing stuff on the wrong place lol
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    MaxBacon said:
    What does this mean? What is? Wha... What?
    When you're calling out for moderation publicly instead of reporting usually you are as fault as the thing you are complaining about. This is usually sanctioned on many forums however i don't know specifics of how it works here...
    Just stop. 


    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    MaxBacon said:
    What does this mean? What is? Wha... What?
    When you're calling out for moderation publicly instead of reporting usually you are as fault as the thing you are complaining about. This is usually sanctioned on many forums however i don't know specifics of how it works here...
    Just stop. 


    I have yet to see anyone raising political issues in this thread.

    If you're referring to a previous post where someone likened pro / anti SC advocates with Trump / Hillary supporters in the sense that they are projecting similar behavior then this has nothing to do with political discussion. You should get your facts straight.

    Also, calling for moderation is against this forums rules.

    Also, using nauseating gifs neither solidifies your arguments (?)  nor gives you any sort of leverage.
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    edited August 2016
    First of all, anyone harassing anyone is just flat out wrong and totally unjustifiable.


    Secondly, anyone blaming Derek Smart for this, needs to be quit and sit down. According to Derek Smart (and Sandi herself), they have had each other blocked on all social media for years now.


    Derek blogging about her and his perceived way in which she has mishandled SC's business, is not targeted harassment.

    If you want to make the argument that the mere action of Derek Smart posting his opinions and blogs about her (and other SC employees) is inciting said targeted harassment, well then, though that may be true, he shouldn't censor his (some valid, some not) opinions just because there are assholes on the internet.

    At the same time, do you have any idea how many times rabid SC fans tell Derek Smart to kill himself on a daily basis? There is a freaking subreddit dedicated to bashing Derek Smart for crying out loud lol.

    Nobody should have to deal with that type of online harassment; not Sandi, and not Derek either.

    This should be a discussions about online harassment in general, not Derek Smart.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,848
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
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