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Why Is the Warcraft Movie Getting a Bad Rap? - Garrett Fuller at MMORPG.com

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  • AntiquatedAntiquated Member RarePosts: 1,415
    "Made for video" used to be the phrase. Now I guess it's "Made for OnDemand," or "Made for Netflix."

    Rent it for a few bucks when it reaches video release, like I do with those grade-B horror movies.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,376
    DMKano said:
    Why do Orcs have British accents? Heh, doesn't that seem unfitting for such a brute race?
    I guess that would depend on what side of history you're on. The British were quite the invaders and a  brutal race to much of the third world.

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  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,351
    Warcraft is not this goofy universe that people think, why does everyone keep saying the movie needs so much humor? Warcraft is comic book fantasy, with about 80% serious/ 20% lighthearted and that's pushing it. Now, I haven't seen the movie, but if there 10-15% of the movie being lighthearted, I think they did ok with the Warcraft theme.

    I've read a few books, one about Thrall, one about Arthas. Those were pretty gritty and had some jokes/light humor, but for the most part were very similar to Lord of the Rings/Game of Thrones (maybe not as obsessed with Death as GoT).
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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    They went wrong with the whole action movie angle. Bad idea. There are a couple angles which would have gotten it better critical reviews.

    1) Make this a movie strictly about the torrid love affair between Garona and Lothar.
    2) Film in 8mm
    3) Hire a hipster as a director. Doesn't matter which one, just any hipster. 
    4) Give the movie a $0 budget
    5) Release the film in 100 theaters only. 

    If you don't believe me, just check out Metacritic
    http://www.metacritic.com/browse/movies/release-date/theaters/metascore

    Oh! It also helps if the movie is so unknown that nobody goes and sees it. 

    Oh! The other way to score 80+ is to be Marvel, Disney, or Michael Bay. 

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  • ARSoulSinARSoulSin Member UncommonPosts: 4
    DKLond said:
    DKLond said:
    Perhaps an american can explain what it might be about the movie that american critics don't like?
    My American mate that saw it described it as "another John Cater of Mars." Which having never seen that film but knowing it bombed I asked him to elaborate. He explained to me that while he felt that the film makers spent quite a lot of time on the fine details like the lore and the CGI they seem to have forgotten to give that same care and attention to detail to the story itself. In other words gorgeous movie world, terrible script.
    Americans caring about script?

    Are we talking about planet Earth here - where Avatar and superhero movies do more business than just about anything?
    Well the script part was my interpretation. I imagine its more like gorgeous movie word, but uninteresting film.
    Puts you to think.

    Isn't that like most RPGs plot goes?

    Awesome and rich lore, somewhat weak and bland plot.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,768
    DMKano said:
    The reason why it's getting a bad rap is maybe because it's not that good of a movie?

    I know, crazy right?

    Bottom line - if they would have made a "World of Warcraft" movie - with all the races and all the classes - and lots of places from the GAME that people can related to - make it a light hearted movie with good humor - it would have been at least hugely successful with the players.


    Making a serious-theme Warcraft movie based on Human/Orc storyline - that only the diehard lore fans can fully appreciate - yeah it's going to suck for the majority of viewers.


    Also - having a perfect opportunity to put a Troll doing Capoeira on film - and not doing it - it deserves all the bad rap for this alone!


    I think what they are secretly saying is gamers need to give this movie a free pass to encourage other film companies to produce other mediocre fantasy movies!
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  • stephaniegrainerstephaniegrainer Member CommonPosts: 1
    The movie is good.. If you played the Warcraft game you will understand the movie much more.
  • SulaaSulaa Member UncommonPosts: 1,329
    It haven't done well because it is a medicore movie and it is 2016 and not 2006?

    World of Warcraft is not a craze it used to be.    Would that movie be released in WoTLK times it would bring massive crowds to cinemas.   Now?  It has to stand on it's own two feets and not base it's success mainly on IP standing behind it.


    Movie was just nothing special.  It wasn't bad, it just wasn't good.   They tried to be 'serious' but done a half-assed job at it.   Plot, dialogues, scenes, etc were of generic heroic fantasy type.    It just all felt bland and medicore.   In a way those 80s/90s average heroic fantasy novels feel like.
  • StizzledStizzled Member RarePosts: 2,014
    It was a movie split in two. One half a big budget, CGI feast for the eyes that was a fantastic watch. The other felt like something I'd expect to see on Syfy.

    I loved every minute of the Orc story. But, every time we were focused on the Humans I just couldn't stop laughing at how little effort the actors put into it. No acting, no emotion, just stiffly spitting out memorized lines. God, Khadgar was the worst. An absolutely cringe worthy effort from pretty much every live actor.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    edited August 2016
    scorpex-x said:
    Honestly, I think it's getting hated for one reason.  Because they are releasing in the US last and all these movie critics make their money from reviews when films are new.

    They want to pan it in the hope they punish movie studios for doing this and it doesn't become more common.  Truth is, whether they make a sequel is down to how it does in China.  America isn't the be all and end all it used to be.

    Also to people who say this is based on wow?  it's not based on wow at all, it's based on the original warcraft game.
    Not really. People who are familiar with Warcraft generally like it, the ones who aren't generally don't.

    The creators could either slowly easing in the general public into the movie or make it specifically for fans of the IP. They went to make it for the fans which is good for the fans but it will lead to bad reviews and no great hype from the general moviegoer.
    If they made it the other way around the Warcraft fans would been upset but the movie would have gotten better general reception, you just need to decide who you are making the movie for.

    As for focusing on north America, I think the IP actually is more popular in South Korea, China and parts of Europe but you would have to make a rather extensive survey and have far more information about where Wows playerbase live, where the WC games sold best and where the E-sports based on WC is most popular then I have.

    In any case, all my Wow and WC fan friends like the movie, none of my friends who never played the games like it. That could be a really weird coincidence but I doubt it. 
  • SulaaSulaa Member UncommonPosts: 1,329
    edited August 2016
    Loke666 said:
    Not really. People who are familiar with Warcraft generally like it, the ones who aren't generally don't.

    The creators could either slowly easing in the general public into the movie or make it specifically for fans of the IP. They went to make it for the fans which is good for the fans but it will lead to bad reviews and no great hype from the general moviegoer.
    If they made it the other way around the Warcraft fans would been upset but the movie would have gotten better general reception, you just need to decide who you are making the movie for.

    I was playing Warcraft since first Warcraft, as time passed I was even more into it, especially once Warcraft 3 came.

    But Warcraft Movie have not felt like it was done with me in mind.    Either I am diffrent than most Warcraft IP fans  or I changed much since those early Warcraft times.    Either way I haven't felt like Warcraft Movie was a thing made with catering to me in mind. 

    Quite the opposite in fact.

    I don't know, maybe If I still had 12 years old, I would be ecstatic about movie, but this movie certainly does not feel like made for Warcraft fans that know IP for long time and are today in their late 20, 30 or 40.
  • OziiusOziius Member UncommonPosts: 1,405
    DKLond said:
    DKLond said:
    Perhaps an american can explain what it might be about the movie that american critics don't like?
    My American mate that saw it described it as "another John Cater of Mars." Which having never seen that film but knowing it bombed I asked him to elaborate. He explained to me that while he felt that the film makers spent quite a lot of time on the fine details like the lore and the CGI they seem to have forgotten to give that same care and attention to detail to the story itself. In other words gorgeous movie world, terrible script.
    Americans caring about script?

    Are we talking about planet Earth here - where Avatar and superhero movies do more business than just about anything?
    Right, because only Americans consume American movies.  It's not those same superhero movies that are smashing global box office records or anything...

    Try harder; your hipster hatred for America isn't shining through hard enough yet.
    Explosions sell in any language; the problem with the Hollywood studio system is that in their eternal pursuit of profit they aim for the lowest common denominator, they create a huge over-blown CGI mess that anyone can understand in any language, and they remove any nuance and subtlety that won't easily translate. As a result they are turning the entire industry into a juvenile, moronic plotless, characterless clusterfuck of CGI. 
    Wow, you really love to hear yourself speak huh? Lol. I thought the movie was very enjoyable and found the cgi to be pretty awesome. I guess I'm just the lowest common denominator though haha
  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    I was also very defensive on it but after I watched a few time I agree it was quite bad and China pretty much saved their ass on revenue.
    Way to childish I think books where more mature more harsh humans in movie looks very goofy no wonder I don't like Alliance. For the Horde  
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