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/r/NoMansSkyTheGame goes into meltdown

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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,259
    laxie said:
    1. The universe is absent. it seems to be a chain of galaxies you move through and as far as we know now, once you leave a galaxy for the next one, you cannot return. That's not really an infinite universe.
    What is this all about? Sounds like a deal breaker to me. I did not see that coming.

    If you spend some time on a planet, you may never go back once you move on?

    It seems that once you leave a galaxy you can't return to it (bear in mind there are a silly number of galaxies).
    However, you're free to return to solar systems or planets within those solar systems until you leave the galaxy they reside in.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    edited August 2016
    laxie said:
    1. The universe is absent. it seems to be a chain of galaxies you move through and as far as we know now, once you leave a galaxy for the next one, you cannot return. That's not really an infinite universe.
    What is this all about? Sounds like a deal breaker to me. I did not see that coming.

    If you spend some time on a planet, you may never go back once you move on?

    It seems that once you leave a galaxy you can't return to it (bear in mind there are a silly number of galaxies).
    However, you're free to return to solar systems or planets within those solar systems until you leave the galaxy they reside in.

    The tiny handful of people who have gotten hold of unpatched copies of the game have not been able to find certain game features in their first few days of play.

    That made them conclude that these features don't exist in the game !

    If you watch those leak streams, you might wonder how some of those streamers even figured out how to switch-on their consoles, lol

    It appears that Daymeeuhn has just recently discovered that there actually ARE different ship types in the game after all, he just didn't know how to unlock them before...

    The pronouncements of these ego-whores should be taken with a liberal sprinkling of salt.

    Daymeeuhn is now distancing himself from his earlier claims, given that he may have discovered how everything REALLY works... :D


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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,259
    edited August 2016
    Well discounting these guys entirely because you feel they're ego-whores is a bit silly especially when more than one streamer verifies something. 

    Otherwise I hope you're right but personally I don't have much faith in day one magic patches.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    laxie said:
    1. The universe is absent. it seems to be a chain of galaxies you move through and as far as we know now, once you leave a galaxy for the next one, you cannot return. That's not really an infinite universe.
    What is this all about? Sounds like a deal breaker to me. I did not see that coming.

    If you spend some time on a planet, you may never go back once you move on?

    It seems that once you leave a galaxy you can't return to it (bear in mind there are a silly number of galaxies).
    However, you're free to return to solar systems or planets within those solar systems until you leave the galaxy they reside in.

    The tiny handful of people who have gotten hold of unpatched copies of the game have not been able to find certain game features in their first few days of play.

    That made them conclude that these features don't exist in the game...

    If you watch those leak streams, you might wonder how some of those streamers even figured out how to switch-on their consoles, lol

    It appears that Daymeeuhn has just recently discovered that there actually ARE different ship types in the game after all, he just didn't know how to unlock them before...

    The pronouncements of these ego-whores should be take with a liberal sprinkling of salt...
    SG, are you saying that what is being reported about Galaxies isn't true? or just affirming that you have a low opinion of the streamer in question?
    While you are obviously entitled to your opinion of them, and i doubt you are alone in that respect, Daymeeuhn in particular does sound like a bit of a twonk.
    Is what they are reporting incorrect though?
    If you can indeed go back to solar systems in a galaxy once you have left that galaxy, then that would change peoples impression of the game immensely, if however, you can't then, however you feel about this Daymeeuhn guy, if he's right in what he is saying, then does it matter what kind of a guy he is?
    Tbh, i have a feeling this is all tied in to the whole multiplayer issue, and why players can't play together in the game, as the chances of the galaxy being generated that conforms to another players galaxy thats generated, may well make the odds of winning the lottery seem easy.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    Phry said:
    laxie said:
    1. The universe is absent. it seems to be a chain of galaxies you move through and as far as we know now, once you leave a galaxy for the next one, you cannot return. That's not really an infinite universe.
    What is this all about? Sounds like a deal breaker to me. I did not see that coming.

    If you spend some time on a planet, you may never go back once you move on?

    It seems that once you leave a galaxy you can't return to it (bear in mind there are a silly number of galaxies).
    However, you're free to return to solar systems or planets within those solar systems until you leave the galaxy they reside in.

    The tiny handful of people who have gotten hold of unpatched copies of the game have not been able to find certain game features in their first few days of play.

    That made them conclude that these features don't exist in the game...

    If you watch those leak streams, you might wonder how some of those streamers even figured out how to switch-on their consoles, lol

    It appears that Daymeeuhn has just recently discovered that there actually ARE different ship types in the game after all, he just didn't know how to unlock them before...

    The pronouncements of these ego-whores should be take with a liberal sprinkling of salt...
    SG, are you saying that what is being reported about Galaxies isn't true? or just affirming that you have a low opinion of the streamer in question?
    While you are obviously entitled to your opinion of them, and i doubt you are alone in that respect, Daymeeuhn in particular does sound like a bit of a twonk.
    Is what they are reporting incorrect though?
    If you can indeed go back to solar systems in a galaxy once you have left that galaxy, then that would change peoples impression of the game immensely, if however, you can't then, however you feel about this Daymeeuhn guy, if he's right in what he is saying, then does it matter what kind of a guy he is?
    Tbh, i have a feeling this is all tied in to the whole multiplayer issue, and why players can't play together in the game, as the chances of the galaxy being generated that conforms to another players galaxy thats generated, may well make the odds of winning the lottery seem easy.
    We don't know if it's possible to return to a galaxy once you've left it. None of the streamers have found a way to do it, but that quite obviously means nothing.

    It means nothing because the streamers are still discovering major things that they previously thought were "missing" or "bugs".

    There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to return to any part of the universe, the numerical seeds for everything are in your client. If the procedural algorithm can faithfully reproduce planets while you're "in" galaxy A, there's no reason why it cannot always do that, regardless of where you go. 

    SPOILER ALERT:
    It appears that the ship/tool/suit upgrades are offered at NPC vendors are always just slightly better than your current layout. So it appears that the gear is tailored to your current "level".
    That could also mean that everything in the game is potentially tailored to your current level. Everything is procedurally generated, so even threat level can be escalated as your "level" increases.


  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    Here's a very recent quote from the current NMS Guru (Daymeeuhn):

    "I won't lie, I've completely dismissed "stuff we've been led to believe" and tossed it all out the window. I just go with what I see in the game itself at this point"

    And that's after 70-80 hours of play...


    Reads the spoilers for yourselves if you want:
    https://m.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4vw8gz/a_quick_note_on_finding_better_ships/
  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 145
    I've played ED on both the PC and XB1 and have to say that in its current state, it's a very very good game. However, it didn't happen overnight, it had a hell of a lot of issues on the XB1 initially to be the point that it became pretty much unplayable at points. 

    Now, especially with Horizons, the game for me showcases what can be achieved on an XB1, with the backing of good developers.

    My point? Don't expect NMS to be the end product when it's released. It will be a damn good title, hell an explorer's dream at some point but ultimately it will take time
  • ThaneThane Member RarePosts: 3,426
    well if you can't link planets to other players, so they can reach you (which was the BEST answer to not having any multiplayer at all btw... still quite impressed about that move, hehe), you can't link it to yourself either :expressionless:

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    Thane said:
    well if you can't link planets to other players, so they can reach you (which was the BEST answer to not having any multiplayer at all btw... still quite impressed about that move, hehe), you can't link it to yourself either :expressionless:
    I'm not following your logic here...

    Are you saying that because you can't link a player on another console/PC to something that exists on your machine, that means you can't link yourself to something that exists on your machine ? :D
  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562
    Sooo once you "Leave" a Galaxy the game just creates a new one and delete's the one you "left" which would in my mind answer a lot of question on why theres almost a zero chance of you meeting another player OOOOORRRRR this game have "made" a shitbrick of "galaxy" or " mini-servers" and you randomly jump into one that "may" or may not have another player in it at the same time. which would answer how you can see someones name tag on a species or plant?
  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)

    Crazkanuk

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  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    CrazKanuk said:
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)
    Oh these first world rich bastards... in 3rd world game always were a cheap very cheap way of entertainment. But today developers are changing this old trend   and this is because of filthy rich westerners like you :)
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 2,908
    CrazKanuk said:
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)
    As a kid at the arcades in the 80s, if I couldn't stay alive for more than 15 minutes on a single quarter it was time to get better at the game.  Just saying...

    I think $1 per hour is a better goalpost for me.  I'm sure it varies from person to person.

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 4 tracks in Distance

  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    edited August 2016
    CrazKanuk said:
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)
    Oh these first world rich bastards... in 3rd world game always were a cheap very cheap way of entertainment. But today developers are changing this old trend   and this is because of filthy rich westerners like you :)

    That's right! There are plenty of perfectly fine free to play games out there, though :) Although it's the rich westerners who fund those also.... so you're welcome :) 

    Just for some context, I have 4 boys, two of whom are teenagers, so I can't even take them to McDonald's for less than $60, and probably wouldn't get out of a restaurant for less than $110 after tip. On top of that, it's all just money wasted since they immediately evacuate it when they get home anyway. 

    So, yeah, $60 is pretty cheap entertainment :) 


    Crazkanuk

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,767
    CrazKanuk said:
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)
    Oh these first world rich bastards... in 3rd world game always were a cheap very cheap way of entertainment. But today developers are changing this old trend   and this is because of filthy rich westerners like you :)
    Why does someone always have to post shit like this? As soon as someone brings up money and value, someone else is always there to play the "1st world problem" card. I mean, It's a freaking video game site after all.
  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Phry said:
    Eldrach said:
    If they were happy with the game in it's current state, they'd released it..They asked for more time to tweak things...This guy bought the untweaked version, crashes and imbalance comes with such a copy
    As the game is supposedly releasing officially in 10 days, then they have a job of work on their hands. Though i am not sure the work needed to be done really can be classed as 'tweaks' it sounds a bit more serious than that, particularly the crashing issue while travelling. :o
    Game could be releasing tomorrow, it's irrelevant. 

    The copy he purchased could be months old as far as anyone knows.  He's didn't purchase the released version of the game. 

    Here's what I don't get...
    You make a product, someone steals it and sells it, and neither of those people have police officers knocking on their doors. 

    Theft is illegal and this is what happened, why isn't it being dealt with the way any other theft would be, by the law.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,259
    edited August 2016
    Uhwop said:

    The copy he purchased could be months old as far as anyone knows.  He's didn't purchase the released version of the game. 

    Here's what I don't get...
    You make a product, someone steals it and sells it, and neither of those people have police officers knocking on their doors. 

    Theft is illegal and this is what happened, why isn't it being dealt with the way any other theft would be, by the law.

    Emphasis on "could be months old". Without any proof that the builds are months old it only makes sense to treat it as the current build.
    For all we know someone has got a release copy from the pressing plant and sold that, just as people do for uploading the latest blockbuster.

    However, if these copies were obtained illegitimately then I'm pretty certain Sony would be after them asap.

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited August 2016
    Uhwop said:

    The copy he purchased could be months old as far as anyone knows.  He's didn't purchase the released version of the game. 

    Here's what I don't get...
    You make a product, someone steals it and sells it, and neither of those people have police officers knocking on their doors. 

    Theft is illegal and this is what happened, why isn't it being dealt with the way any other theft would be, by the law.

    Emphasis on "could be months old". Without any proof that the builds are months old it only makes sense to treat it as the current build.
    For all we know someone has got a release copy from the pressing plant and sold that, just as people do for uploading the latest blockbuster.

    However, if these copies were obtained illegitimately then I'm pretty certain Sony would be after them asap.

    no actually I disagree

    I dont think the assumption should be that a game that is for sale on Ebay before the publisher even releases the game is anything other than a hack job. I also think the word of game play by anyone who buys such a file and begins to talk about it should be defaulted to liying rather than telling the truth unless evidence can be provided

    The default assumption should be the opposite of what you are suggesting

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,259
    Define "hack job". What's next? That Marty McFly sent them from the past?

    I don't know how it is done usually for game demos but I know that on film screeners they are watermarked or have regular banners stating they are the property of blah blah studio etc so if they do similar things for games then release copies would be clear of any indentifiers (as they are).

    Also seeing as these copies appeared after the game had gone gold makes it far more likely that they came from the pressing plant, if they were 2 or 3 month old demo builds then why would HG simply not say so?

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    Uhwop said:
    Phry said:
    Eldrach said:
    If they were happy with the game in it's current state, they'd released it..They asked for more time to tweak things...This guy bought the untweaked version, crashes and imbalance comes with such a copy
    As the game is supposedly releasing officially in 10 days, then they have a job of work on their hands. Though i am not sure the work needed to be done really can be classed as 'tweaks' it sounds a bit more serious than that, particularly the crashing issue while travelling. :o
    Game could be releasing tomorrow, it's irrelevant. 

    The copy he purchased could be months old as far as anyone knows.  He's didn't purchase the released version of the game. 

    Here's what I don't get...
    You make a product, someone steals it and sells it, and neither of those people have police officers knocking on their doors. 

    Theft is illegal and this is what happened, why isn't it being dealt with the way any other theft would be, by the law.
    The world is never that simple, lol

    Yes, it's theft.
    Yes, the receiver of the stolen goods is easily identifiable.

    Nothing will happen to any of these criminals.

    These leaks are generating excellent PR. They have consistently put NMS on the front page of Reddit, the most widely-viewed forum on the internet.

    besides, ten's of thousands of neckbeards would riot if Sony or anyone else attempted to prosecute this theft.  The damage to Sony's public image would be incalculable. 

    Streaming stolen copies of games in the week before release is almost "business as usual" these days.
  • ScottgunScottgun Member UncommonPosts: 528
    Scottgun said:
    Wish I could argue about ED. Im still waiting for their promised PS4 version. :)

    Except it was never promised. If I remember correctly the devs simply said "never say never" or something to that effect.
    Promised might not be the best word, but from what I'm reading, they are intending to do it.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    CrazKanuk said:
    scorpex-x said:
    I found it funny where he said it's worth $60.  This from a guy that has pretty much no value for money at all.
    Value for money is a purely subjective thing.

    Daymeeuhn gets considerable value for his money, he gets to be the "Hero of Reddit" for a week or so, and all for the low, low price of just $1300 !

    It's the third time he's done this apparently...

    If value is purely based on time spent in the game, this is like at least 3 times more valuable than Call of Duty. 

    I think that 30 hours, for the majority of people, is the sweet spot. As much as people brag about how they spent hundreds of hours in games like Skyrim, I think that is a small minority of people. However, I think that they absolutely have to offer extended gameplay for those people, too, which it sounds like they've done. 

    If you need more value than $2 per hour for entertainment, I don't know how I could sell you anything. Actually, I couldn't. It wouldn't be worth my time to sell you something :)
    As a kid at the arcades in the 80s, if I couldn't stay alive for more than 15 minutes on a single quarter it was time to get better at the game.  Just saying...

    I think $1 per hour is a better goalpost for me.  I'm sure it varies from person to person.

    Yeah, I remember those days. The price of admission at the arcade is now $1 where I live. Can't find a quarter machine anywhere. Maybe an old tabletop version of Galaga or something, lol. I'd totally play that though. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,011
    Am I the only one who will be heading toward the outer edge of space?

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

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