I think if you have to ask this question, you already have your answer. Games aren't going to get better suited for you because someone here says keep playing them.
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I would've thrown in the towel a long time ago if not for RP and crafting. It's very much a genre where you just have to find something to do, rather than have it be handed to you. The content takes too long to come to you, so you have to make the content via immersion, friends, guilds and general social experiences. My requirements for games nowadays is:
Role Playability: Being able to sit in chairs, lay in beds, no severe limits on text (in addition to a /say and /emote chat), ability to post emotes as well as a host of other things such as character creation, aesthetics in the amount of items you can wear, housing, character emotes (permanent ones are a plus), typical MMO movement, walking and generally anything that makes immersion easy to come by.
Guild Systems: Housing, building things together, inventory space, systems, ways to interact and help each other, goals to reach, points to be gathered, places to be reached with one another, etc.
Focused community: Any servers that are sections off as "RP" or games that have some requirement before entering, such as purchasing a box or having a subscription fee to cut down on kids trying to troll others just because they think its fun. I've personally found a server to be amazing when it's full and recognized as an RP server, with the only way to get on being actually transferring (also makes gold sellers non-existent and keeps trolls away since they have to pay extra).
Crafting: Amazing and intricate crafting systems with thousands of items, many crafts (crafts being classes in of themselves is a plus to ensure they're not just an afterthought). System that is fun to make currency in and ways to spend massive amounts through constant updates, item introduction, complex systems requiring one another and having aspects to buy and sell. Housing to buy, furniture to buy, ways to customize, etc. Maxing the currency cap is a joy when the crafting system is complex with many facets to try and tackle at any given time.
Updates: If a game frequently updates, including a lot of the little things like new outfits, emotes, hairstyles, furniture, minor system updates as well as adding more content, storyline, sidequests and much more. The more frequent, the better with my expectations being around 3-4 months per bulky patch, and a smaller one inbetween for thing that could be released then.
Misc.: The game focuses on a lot of little thing such as lighting, hair or clothing blowing in the wind, weather effects, and the update of such things thereof.
What it can't have is:
-World Whisper system that keeps on popping up with messages from other players or the system. -Inability to ignore someone that is being disruptive. -Odd controls or lacking an auto-walk (not auto-pathing) feature whereby you can just press a button and it will keep on walking forward so that you may type. -The cash shop having more outfits than are available in game -Limited aesthetic options when it comes to clothes -Forced World PvP (no PvE server) as it limits RP to instances and emotes can take anywhere between 5-15 minutes to write, which you have to erase each time you're attacked (though virtual reality RP without typing seems to have promise when it comes to PvP) -Inability to set up chat controls and ignore specific portions that may annoy you (such as general chat). -Phasing that keeps you from playing with your friends (phasing itself is nice, but not if it restricts the social aspects of the game).
To date, there is only one game that has all of my requirements, and avoids each of my "MMO Sins".
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I think if you have to ask this question, you already have your answer. Games aren't going to get better suited for you because someone here says keep playing them.
Not really, there might be a game I haven't tried or a different perspective of looking at it.
I think part of it is the player and also because how the genre has evolved over the last decade or so. I used to be able to stick with one MMO for more than a few years straight, without playing anything else. I played Asheron's Call for 2 years straight, DAoC for 3 years, WoW for 4 years and LotRO for 3 years. All without playing any other game inbetween those times. But since about 2011 I haven't been able to stick with one MMO for more than a few months at a time before I get bored with it and need to play something else.
I know part of that is me as a gamer. It's the same mechanic over and over, level a class to max level, get the best gear, rinse and repeat. But I think newer MMO's and even ones I played before have been "dummed" down over the years to make them more casual friendly and easier to play. They've pretty much taken the challenge and any choices or thinking you had to do out of these games and now they hold your hand from beginning to end. I've pretty much gotten to the point where I just play the newer MMO's like a single-player RPG.
Also F2P + Cash shops have ruined the experience for me....maybe not for all players but I hate it when there are nice things that are only obtainable with real money rather than doing something in the game. I'd rather play a monthly sub and have 100% of the content accessible through game mechanics.
Good time to stop. Anyways I have something that it's even more fun. From time to time come back to this website and check out the games people are super hyped about. Wait a few months for the game to be released and a few more for the game to be considered a piece of crap. Make fun of the fanboys who claimed said game was the most amazing thing to ever be created in the history of the universe. Rinse and repeat. It is quite entertaining and it takes very little of your time.
You can start with Star Citizen if you are interested. Biggest love story we've had in a few years. The break up is going to be amazing.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Usually when I hit the burning out on MMOs stage I change direction and go another route for awhile...I usually pick up a sports game, go sci fi, shooter, some other formula than the fantasy MMO....I expect at some point that these companies wont all try to please the exact same customer base and will get more adventuruous with their gaming approach.
The point of games is fun, so if it's not fun it's not worth playing. There are too many potentially fun games out there to waste time on the bad ones.
You should be smart about it of course. Abandoning a game too early can make you miss out on a potentially amazing experience. I still think I might really enjoy Witcher or Dark Souls, but my early experiences in these games were kinda shaky (and in DS' case, outright boring) so I've never really invested the time to master their systems (where most of the enjoyment would be experienced.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Lately I've been finding it really hard to find an MMO that keeps me wanting to play it. Most MMOs seem pretty stale and vague and mostly all about the grind and getting the oh so uber gear and becoming more epic or whatever.. Honestly I grow tired of this crap and I've played so many games over the past decade or so its not even fun anymore. Whats worse is I even have some of them installed on my PC and just can't be bothered to play them half the time. Perhaps its a sign? should I just throw in the towel and be done with MMOs? Even the most recent MMOs don't grasp my interest and I don't want to sound like I'm just joining the paddy wagon here but seriously I want something new and fresh and all we seem to get is the same old stale cooky from the same old cut, sure it may look tastier but deep down its not, infact its just icky and leaves a bitter taste x.x
Yes you should quit.
In fact, why even bother to distinguish between MMO and other games? Just play whatever is fun for you. And if games are not doing it, try tv, movie, novels, anime or whatever float you boat.
Personally, I do not agonize over if a enjoy a particular genre or not. I just look at individual entertainment products. If it sounds fun, i try it out. It is really no more complicated than that.
I am in a similar position. . then I spent a long time playing great single player game and then found MMOs refreshing and fun again. . then I didn't. . then I stopped playing single player games. . now I just visit here instead of playing anything There are some cool games to play but mostly MMOs have gotten stale. . still giving BDO a shot despite the cheaters etc. Nothing holds me long though.
I think if you have to ask this question, you already have your answer. Games aren't going to get better suited for you because someone here says keep playing them.
Not really, there might be a game I haven't tried or a different perspective of looking at it.
How can anyone truly help you based on what you've written in the OP? There's no indication of what you like, what you don't like, what you're seeking, nor what you are not...all it is is a myopic echo of the chorus of disapproval we see day in and day out around here. No offense meant of course, if you just wanted to vent frustration over it, that's all fine and good, it just isn't much to go on to make suggestions.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Why do people feel the need to force themselves into any genre or anything else? Hell, I would love to play an MMORPG right now. But because all the offerings are not to my flavor I have just switched to other games. Even with the cheaters (which havent really affected me), I have been loving The Division.
Frankly, these kind of threads are weird and awkward to me. "Should I, me of all people quit looking for an MMO to play? Oh please deary me talk me out of this life altering decision."
Just play something else and when an MMO comes out you want to play hop back in. This is also called speaking with your wallet.
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You'd be surprised how many feel that way over those who don't and that is normally influenced from the games they've played so no, its not them, its the games.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, it is just that they do not matter. Basic statistics.
Nope, it is still them. There does not need to be a game for everyone.
If that's the case why have MMORPG been abandoned?
I agree, I've felt very 'meh' towards MMOs recently. I played FFXIV since release and took a 2 month break on it between launch of expansion, then I took a 2-3 month break from MMOs recently and have turned gaming time towards playing through the solo play style of Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Wii-U. It stil feels fairly empty though since I've grown accoustomed to the sociability of the mmo crew.
I wanted to give BDO an honest shot (Played BnS until it was CRAZY token grind) but I couldn't get beyone the bland art style/graphics/boring combat of BDO. It's a shame too because I REALLY wanted to like it but I found myself trying to convince myself it was the game for me when it just wasn't.
From watching the combat trailer of EQN, I was a bit excited for all the potential for that, but when I played landmark I felt so utterly underwhelmed it made my head spin, then finding out it was axed was saddening.
I will most likely be returning to FFXIV if I can get over their loving want of a token grind, though that depends if their raid content has improved from their Alex Savage 1-4 (totally not fun 3-4 turns). Which was a shame as IMO their raid tiers have always been enjoyable.
A break is required IMO. Take it then come back to something you can sink your teeth into.
That's simple: Take a break or quit for good and find something else to do. There are so many ways to entertain yourself in today's world. We live in a world of constant entertainment.
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Role Playability: Being able to sit in chairs, lay in beds, no severe limits on text (in addition to a /say and /emote chat), ability to post emotes as well as a host of other things such as character creation, aesthetics in the amount of items you can wear, housing, character emotes (permanent ones are a plus), typical MMO movement, walking and generally anything that makes immersion easy to come by.
Guild Systems: Housing, building things together, inventory space, systems, ways to interact and help each other, goals to reach, points to be gathered, places to be reached with one another, etc.
Focused community: Any servers that are sections off as "RP" or games that have some requirement before entering, such as purchasing a box or having a subscription fee to cut down on kids trying to troll others just because they think its fun. I've personally found a server to be amazing when it's full and recognized as an RP server, with the only way to get on being actually transferring (also makes gold sellers non-existent and keeps trolls away since they have to pay extra).
Crafting: Amazing and intricate crafting systems with thousands of items, many crafts (crafts being classes in of themselves is a plus to ensure they're not just an afterthought). System that is fun to make currency in and ways to spend massive amounts through constant updates, item introduction, complex systems requiring one another and having aspects to buy and sell. Housing to buy, furniture to buy, ways to customize, etc. Maxing the currency cap is a joy when the crafting system is complex with many facets to try and tackle at any given time.
Updates: If a game frequently updates, including a lot of the little things like new outfits, emotes, hairstyles, furniture, minor system updates as well as adding more content, storyline, sidequests and much more. The more frequent, the better with my expectations being around 3-4 months per bulky patch, and a smaller one inbetween for thing that could be released then.
Misc.: The game focuses on a lot of little thing such as lighting, hair or clothing blowing in the wind, weather effects, and the update of such things thereof.
What it can't have is:
-World Whisper system that keeps on popping up with messages from other players or the system.
-Inability to ignore someone that is being disruptive.
-Odd controls or lacking an auto-walk (not auto-pathing) feature whereby you can just press a button and it will keep on walking forward so that you may type.
-The cash shop having more outfits than are available in game
-Limited aesthetic options when it comes to clothes
-Forced World PvP (no PvE server) as it limits RP to instances and emotes can take anywhere between 5-15 minutes to write, which you have to erase each time you're attacked (though virtual reality RP without typing seems to have promise when it comes to PvP)
-Inability to set up chat controls and ignore specific portions that may annoy you (such as general chat).
-Phasing that keeps you from playing with your friends (phasing itself is nice, but not if it restricts the social aspects of the game).
To date, there is only one game that has all of my requirements, and avoids each of my "MMO Sins".
And what game would that be?
I know part of that is me as a gamer. It's the same mechanic over and over, level a class to max level, get the best gear, rinse and repeat. But I think newer MMO's and even ones I played before have been "dummed" down over the years to make them more casual friendly and easier to play. They've pretty much taken the challenge and any choices or thinking you had to do out of these games and now they hold your hand from beginning to end. I've pretty much gotten to the point where I just play the newer MMO's like a single-player RPG.
Also F2P + Cash shops have ruined the experience for me....maybe not for all players but I hate it when there are nice things that are only obtainable with real money rather than doing something in the game. I'd rather play a monthly sub and have 100% of the content accessible through game mechanics.
You can start with Star Citizen if you are interested. Biggest love story we've had in a few years. The break up is going to be amazing.
For many it's the last chance at a more in depth gaming experience.
Trolls seem to hate it too, so one positive.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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The point of games is fun, so if it's not fun it's not worth playing. There are too many potentially fun games out there to waste time on the bad ones.
You should be smart about it of course. Abandoning a game too early can make you miss out on a potentially amazing experience. I still think I might really enjoy Witcher or Dark Souls, but my early experiences in these games were kinda shaky (and in DS' case, outright boring) so I've never really invested the time to master their systems (where most of the enjoyment would be experienced.)
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Or you could change your play style and try something you normally don't do (e.g., PvP if you normally are a PvEer).
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
I self identify as a monkey.
BnS is a quality traditional themepark with deep equalized 1v1 PVP.
I'm sure you know what BDO is.
Both are sufficiently different from other MMOs that they're worth a try before giving up on the genre completely.
I personally had given up on the genre for a year until I tried BnS. I've been happily playing that daily for 6-8hours for over 3 months now.
In fact, why even bother to distinguish between MMO and other games? Just play whatever is fun for you. And if games are not doing it, try tv, movie, novels, anime or whatever float you boat.
Personally, I do not agonize over if a enjoy a particular genre or not. I just look at individual entertainment products. If it sounds fun, i try it out. It is really no more complicated than that.
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Frankly, these kind of threads are weird and awkward to me. "Should I, me of all people quit looking for an MMO to play? Oh please deary me talk me out of this life altering decision."
Just play something else and when an MMO comes out you want to play hop back in. This is also called speaking with your wallet.
I wanted to give BDO an honest shot (Played BnS until it was CRAZY token grind) but I couldn't get beyone the bland art style/graphics/boring combat of BDO. It's a shame too because I REALLY wanted to like it but I found myself trying to convince myself it was the game for me when it just wasn't.
From watching the combat trailer of EQN, I was a bit excited for all the potential for that, but when I played landmark I felt so utterly underwhelmed it made my head spin, then finding out it was axed was saddening.
I will most likely be returning to FFXIV if I can get over their loving want of a token grind, though that depends if their raid content has improved from their Alex Savage 1-4 (totally not fun 3-4 turns). Which was a shame as IMO their raid tiers have always been enjoyable.
A break is required IMO. Take it then come back to something you can sink your teeth into.
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