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LOTRO review from a noobs point of view. A fresh start!

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    I would also check out http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php for a few addons.

    http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=663 makes it easy to install and update plugins.

    This one is my favorite skin http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info651-JRRAzureGlass.html

    Hugebag is a nice one http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info891-HugeBagv1.13.66Patchfor135Slots.html

    Then you have Moormap http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info532-MoorMap.html

    They are old but they all work and make the game better. But I do have couple of characters they aren't loaded on. The skin is a good visual.

    Then sweetfx does make the game even better looking.

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?537729-LOTRO-SweetFX-and-you-A-tale-of-pretty-sunsets-and-lush-foliage

    But over all with or without plugins and sweetfx it is a game I always keep active. I really regret not paying the 200 dollars for lifetime sub. 
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Brenics said:
    I would also check out http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php for a few addons.

    http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=663 makes it easy to install and update plugins.

    This one is my favorite skin http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info651-JRRAzureGlass.html

    Hugebag is a nice one http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info891-HugeBagv1.13.66Patchfor135Slots.html

    Then you have Moormap http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info532-MoorMap.html

    They are old but they all work and make the game better. But I do have couple of characters they aren't loaded on. The skin is a good visual.

    Then sweetfx does make the game even better looking.

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?537729-LOTRO-SweetFX-and-you-A-tale-of-pretty-sunsets-and-lush-foliage

    But over all with or without plugins and sweetfx it is a game I always keep active. I really regret not paying the 200 dollars for lifetime sub. 
    Mam ohh man,thanks for the info!  I am sure to use the big bag!
  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,467
    One other semi groundbreaking system in the game is the player made music and instruments. EVERY RPG type game should have a system, like that. I am not even a big R P guy but I had a folder full of songs to play when I was bored.
  • SetzerSetzer Member UncommonPosts: 226
    Honestly surprised this game is still going.  IMO for whatever reason Turbine dropped the ball on everything after Mines of Moria.

    Nonetheless I have lots of fond memories of this game.  In some ways it's a real gem.
    I wouldn't say Turbine completely dropped the ball and I don't put all the blame on them, I'm sure WB had a hand in it as well. That being said, the game is still a good MMO and one of the better ones out there and that's why its still going.
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member RarePosts: 4,763
    edited April 2016
    rodarin said:
    One other semi groundbreaking system in the game is the player made music and instruments. EVERY RPG type game should have a system, like that.
    Sadly it seems no other devs get it right. Many games have player music system, but devs are dumb enough for always tie it to the character building and grind. LotRO is the only one, where the music is just for the fun and the roleplay, where you can have the whole system right from the start (ok, technically you need to leave the tutorial :wink: ). Personally, love the music system... since @xpowderx is on Landy, you'll be able to check Weatherstock this summer, it's always a great event. Numerous bands, lots of fun, and free ale, and pipeweed.
    (though my favourite is still the 2013 one, that was an epic Weatherstock... I even made a complete tracklist for it based on the mmoreporter stream, just can't find the post now. Dumb forum search engine :wink: 
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    xpowderx said:
    Brenics said:
    I would also check out http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php for a few addons.
    Mam ohh man,thanks for the info!  I am sure to use the big bag!
    Actually the bag is not that useful since the inventory revamp, you can now merge all your bags - but I think the plugin is still better for sorting and searching. Not sure, I'm not using it since the revamp.

    Great post however, LotRO supports LUA, and you can plugin the sh.t out of it :wink:  and lotrointerface is a great collection site of the most used plugins.
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    I went and created a Loremaster on Landroval because of this thread. It's a class I've never really played before.

    Despite having done the early level stuff loads of times I can't help but do it all again. It's very well put together. The only downside is it's far too easy with the bear, but I already knew that.
  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Athisar said:
    I went and created a Loremaster on Landroval because of this thread. It's a class I've never really played before.

    Despite having done the early level stuff loads of times I can't help but do it all again. It's very well put together. The only downside is it's far too easy with the bear, but I already knew that.
    Hope you are having fun!  I am on Landroval as well. Very good server.  They had entire musical groups giving concerts tonight. All at different times too! I did not know players could do that.  Amazing!

    Last time I saw that in a mmorpg was in Star Wars Galaxies pre-cu.  In that game entertainer was a class.

    Want some competitive monsters.  In Rath Teraig in Erud Luin there is a entire area of"elite" mobs.  Just found that out today while trying to finish off a deed.  My lore master would have trouble there as you can get two to three of those on you at once.  As my minstrel found out today.
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member RarePosts: 4,763
    Mine on Landy is an LM as well :wink: only at around level 20 because the farthest event I'm interested in is placed on Weathertop.

    Yep, trait tree changes (and its side-effects) hit LM hard, there were times where the bear could kill an on-level mob with 2 hits... :anguished:  It was toned down, but they're still stronger than they were years ago. Good old days when the level 15 class quest in the library was still a challenge :wink: 
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    xpowderx said:
    hmmm.. i might give this one a try. i'm not a fan of the current trend of  "action combat" and so far the only games i've enjoyed have been good ol tab target or some kind of hybrid.

    my question though. for someone who's not that into the lord of the rings.. would i still be able to enjoy it?
    I think you would.  I am a Star Wars fan above all else.  I have been enjoying it immensely.  I look at it in this perspective.  George Lucas created the entire Star Wars genre from the inspiration of J.R.R Tolkiens books.

    The Empire= Sauron/Mordor

    The Rebels= well you know.. Frodo, Legolas ect

    a few against many.

    The rings= The force..
    Nice write up, OP.

    But I need a reference for this Lucas drawing inspiration directly from Tolkien -- only because I teach a class this semester on Star Wars and how Lucas drew inspiration from Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces. I have never seen anything about the Tolkien link, though I'm sure Lucas must have read the books. If you have a reference, that would  be great because I'm teaching a class on LOTR next semester.


  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Really nice to see a little excitement centered around LOTRO. It has it's problems but over all a great game with great community. I hope more come in and rediscover it. 
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    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    edited April 2016
    d_20 said:
    xpowderx said:
    hmmm.. i might give this one a try. i'm not a fan of the current trend of  "action combat" and so far the only games i've enjoyed have been good ol tab target or some kind of hybrid.

    my question though. for someone who's not that into the lord of the rings.. would i still be able to enjoy it?
    I think you would.  I am a Star Wars fan above all else.  I have been enjoying it immensely.  I look at it in this perspective.  George Lucas created the entire Star Wars genre from the inspiration of J.R.R Tolkiens books.

    The Empire= Sauron/Mordor

    The Rebels= well you know.. Frodo, Legolas ect

    a few against many.

    The rings= The force..
    Nice write up, OP.

    But I need a reference for this Lucas drawing inspiration directly from Tolkien -- only because I teach a class this semester on Star Wars and how Lucas drew inspiration from Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces. I have never seen anything about the Tolkien link, though I'm sure Lucas must have read the books. If you have a reference, that would  be great because I'm teaching a class on LOTR next semester.
    Well, here is my post with the only reference that I could find. http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/449381/was-george-lucas-star-wars-influenced-heavily-by-j-r-r-tolkiens-writings#latest

    Enjoy the read.

    Also,  I really am enjoying LOTRO!
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,246
    edited April 2016
    The ONLY thing I'd add to LoTR:O is to revamp the naming system so it uses Cryptic's method.

    I mean...someone nicked my name(the one you see up there)! What the fuck, I invented it! Alongside with the character and personality that goes with it. Good thing I've epesse, kilmesse etc ready, but wtf lol! One of my characters(Sinwe) had all 4 names taken fml!
  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Gorwe said:
    The ONLY thing I'd add to LoTR:O is to revamp the naming system so it uses Cryptic's method.

    I mean...someone nicked my name(the one you see up there)! What the fuck, I invented it! Alongside with the character and personality that goes with it. Good thing I've epesse, kilmesse etc ready, but wtf lol! One of my characters(Sinwe) had all 4 names taken fml!
    Some of my pvp mmo names are still good.  Effoffndie works.  Ironballs or Studmuffin do not.
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,416
    Also during the summer, think it is in July, Landroval has Weatherstock.  It is a LOTRO version of Woodstock.  Last time I went with my dwarf I got drunk and fell off  a cliff.   Good times!
  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member LegendaryPosts: 3,584
    Athisar said:
    I went and created a Loremaster on Landroval because of this thread. It's a class I've never really played before.

    Despite having done the early level stuff loads of times I can't help but do it all again. It's very well put together. The only downside is it's far too easy with the bear, but I already knew that.
    Leonardo DiCaprio might disagree about the bear thing.

    Seriously though I think you just pointed out why this game I used to love no longer appeals to me. The developers made all the classes just too damned powerful. I could wade through tons of enemies on any of my characters, be it a guardian, burglar, champion, hunter, captain, warden, or even minstrel, without breaking a sweat. Now don't get me wrong its fun to be a badass, but now gone are the days where I'd creep into places such as the Old Forrest or the Barrow-downs with great caution because the zones felt sinisterly dangerous. Last time I played I just ran around in a berserk furry slaughtering all and sundry. It really destroyed the mood, and in LOTRO mood makes for quite a bit of the gaming experience, at least for me.

    "You have kept me at your beck and call for fifteen years. I shall never again do what you demand of me. By every rule of single combat, from this moment your life belongs to me. Is that not correct? Then I shall simply declare you dead. In all of your dealings with me, you'll do me the courtesy to conduct yourself as a dead man. I have submitted to your notions of honor long enough. You will now submit to mine."

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,799
    Po_gg said:
    Mine on Landy is an LM as well :wink: only at around level 20 because the farthest event I'm interested in is placed on Weathertop.

    Yep, trait tree changes (and its side-effects) hit LM hard, there were times where the bear could kill an on-level mob with 2 hits... :anguished:  It was toned down, but they're still stronger than they were years ago. Good old days when the level 15 class quest in the library was still a challenge :wink: 
    My main is an LM. The trait trees did change a lot. We're more powerful in some ways and less powerful in others. We could always (I'm talking after the level 65 combat changes) DPS well with fire. Our AoE dps was huge. Our pets were not very strong but we still had reasonably strong CC. Since the trait changes our power has shifted primarily to our pets while the debuff and DPS lines have stayed about the same.

    It's sort of gone like this
    1. First stage - pre Moria combat revamp: LMs were CC gods. We could lock down 2+ mobs (or Creeps) indefinitely and solo Elite Masters (and possibly even raid Nemesis if you were awesome - I was not).

    2. Second stage - Moria combat revamp: CC got a huge nerf. No more perma mez, root, stun. Can still solo Elites, but not really Elite Masters or better except for a few. Still needed for group and raid debuffs.

    3. Current stage - Post trait tree revamp: CC nerfed a little more. Strong debuffs gated behind yellow trait tree. Strong AoE DPS gated behind red tree. Pets buffed a little overall. Blue line is a zoo force and really powerful. Pets can be summoned in battle. Very big for survivability and soloing Elite Masters+.

    So it changed how we play and how we approach battle. It took me quite a while to adjust. I loved stage 1 and that change was the hardest. Moria up until trait tree revamp sucked. I was much weaker then and now I'm in between that and pre-Moria. I like the trait tree revamp for that reason alone, plus my Mini also plays better (not the god it was, but still really good).
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  • Po_ggPo_gg Member RarePosts: 4,763
    I never was good with LM, since I'm more of a healer than a CCer, but I really liked the first one. The library I referred, I remember one goblin held by the recently aquired bear (I think crow was the first), the other on perma lock down, while searching the shelves.
    Or jumping on a group, archer got crow, one melee on lockdown, the other rooted, and slowly burning them down one by one... fun times. Just it was a bit slow / too much clicks for my taste :wink:

    I rather heal, or tank, or buff. Or even dps. CC never really "clicked" for me... the other is stealth, I rarely play stealthed characters. Sure I have a couple hobbit burgs here and there (and back again), but usually on low levels.
    Athisar said:
    The only downside is it's far too easy with the bear, but I already knew that.
    Leonardo DiCaprio might disagree about the bear thing.
    :lol:
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    I'm only level 12 or something with my new LM but the bear really is stupidly OP. It can one shot a lot of things (including other bears). I wish they'd rebalance levelling to make it a bit more challenging. With XP so easy to get you outlevel content quick enough without the mobs being super easy.
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Athisar said:
    I'm only level 12 or something with my new LM but the bear really is stupidly OP. It can one shot a lot of things (including other bears). I wish they'd rebalance levelling to make it a bit more challenging. With XP so easy to get you outlevel content quick enough without the mobs being super easy.
    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item:Stone_of_the_Tortoise Slow down enjoy the smell of the PipeWeed! 
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    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,832
    Brenics said:
    I would also check out http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php for a few addons.

    http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=663 makes it easy to install and update plugins.

    This one is my favorite skin http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info651-JRRAzureGlass.html

    Hugebag is a nice one http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info891-HugeBagv1.13.66Patchfor135Slots.html

    Then you have Moormap http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info532-MoorMap.html

    They are old but they all work and make the game better. But I do have couple of characters they aren't loaded on. The skin is a good visual.

    Then sweetfx does make the game even better looking.

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?537729-LOTRO-SweetFX-and-you-A-tale-of-pretty-sunsets-and-lush-foliage

    But over all with or without plugins and sweetfx it is a game I always keep active. I really regret not paying the 200 dollars for lifetime sub. 
    The screens from the game using SweetFX looks great!

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Brenics said:
    I would also check out http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php for a few addons.

    http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=663 makes it easy to install and update plugins.

    This one is my favorite skin http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info651-JRRAzureGlass.html

    Hugebag is a nice one http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info891-HugeBagv1.13.66Patchfor135Slots.html

    Then you have Moormap http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info532-MoorMap.html

    They are old but they all work and make the game better. But I do have couple of characters they aren't loaded on. The skin is a good visual.

    Then sweetfx does make the game even better looking.

    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?537729-LOTRO-SweetFX-and-you-A-tale-of-pretty-sunsets-and-lush-foliage

    But over all with or without plugins and sweetfx it is a game I always keep active. I really regret not paying the 200 dollars for lifetime sub. 
    The screens from the game using SweetFX looks great!
    I know makes it look even better. I love it.
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

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    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • Nayr752Nayr752 Member UncommonPosts: 172
    Thanks for sharing these addons. I needed these!. :)
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    edited April 2016
    xpowderx said:
    d_20 said:
    xpowderx said:
    hmmm.. i might give this one a try. i'm not a fan of the current trend of  "action combat" and so far the only games i've enjoyed have been good ol tab target or some kind of hybrid.

    my question though. for someone who's not that into the lord of the rings.. would i still be able to enjoy it?
    I think you would.  I am a Star Wars fan above all else.  I have been enjoying it immensely.  I look at it in this perspective.  George Lucas created the entire Star Wars genre from the inspiration of J.R.R Tolkiens books.

    The Empire= Sauron/Mordor

    The Rebels= well you know.. Frodo, Legolas ect

    a few against many.

    The rings= The force..
    Nice write up, OP.

    But I need a reference for this Lucas drawing inspiration directly from Tolkien -- only because I teach a class this semester on Star Wars and how Lucas drew inspiration from Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces. I have never seen anything about the Tolkien link, though I'm sure Lucas must have read the books. If you have a reference, that would  be great because I'm teaching a class on LOTR next semester.
    Well, here is my post with the only reference that I could find. http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/449381/was-george-lucas-star-wars-influenced-heavily-by-j-r-r-tolkiens-writings#latest

    Enjoy the read.

    Also,  I really am enjoying LOTRO!
    I responded to that thread. That quote was a good find!

    Edit: I tried to answer, but for some reason my post is not showing up.  Lucas has said he was inspired to make Star Wars by Joseph Campbell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSyyqctan2c

    But I think that quote you found in the other thread gives a clear indication that he read Tolkien as well.


  • Po_ggPo_gg Member RarePosts: 4,763
    edited April 2016
    d_20 said:

    Edit: I tried to answer, but for some reason my post is not showing up.  Lucas has said he was inspired to make Star Wars by Joseph Campbell.
    Man, you'd love the online course, too bad there's no upcoming session in the near future :wink:
    (but if you teach one yourself, the course would only useful for the fun part, the participation)

    Lucas was indeed inspired by Campbell's work, but I think then, as a proxy, he was inspired by Tolkien too, who was in return inspired by the sagas and Beowulf (and he romance traditions), and then the cycle closes in Campbell again, since his book is basically a review, an essence of the hero's journey in old stories and myths around the world.

    (to be honest, I'm more into Trek and never really looked SW as literature, so I'm not fitted for an analysis... movie references, editing, cut techniques Lucas used, etc. I could much more recite from my movie buff years :wink: )


    So, back to the topic a bit: now that this many LMs gathered in here, I'm compelled to drop in the LM part from my favourite, mighty champ post* (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?283276-3-things-a-champion-would-like-you-to-know-cause-I-hate-you-and-want-you-to-cry  ) from the past where LMs were still the CC masters:

    2. Loremasters are afraid of almost everything. Seriously. All of their skills are based around this. They mez and root to keep the scary things away. If that fails, they debuff it, so it seems a little less scary to them. And they have pets to help keep things away from them, and to have someone to cuddle with in case they have a bad dream or something.

    Champions are not afraid. We are there to AOE DPS, and not hitting things is counterproductive. So we must break every mez we see. And the purpose of roots is to keep everything together so it is easier to AOE it all.

    Don't worry, little LM. The mighty champ will save you, even if you are just some weirdo in a bathrobe.

     :lol:

    *edit: bad english... not a post of mine, of course, just my all-time favourite from the forum.
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,207
    Funny thing about LotRO and DDO.

    Those are the two MMOs I would actually really play and get into again if they got a proper engine upgrade - along with proper EU servers.

    Truly, the technical issues and the age of these games are the only reasons I don't play anymore.

    Obviously, they wouldn't be quite like entirely new games - but I'd love to play them again all the same.
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