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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,077
    Never again asian games! They start as super awesome revolutionary games but every time i got burned.And eventually people realise that are just money sponge.Don't take my word just check the facts.
    Sorry for the fan boys that are gona rage over this.For the others peace and western games FTW!
    Please be more specific. Saying "Asian games" is a very general accusation. Say "Asian mmos" instead. As far as i can tell most Asian non-mmos wipe the floor with most western non-mmo games,
    Permit me to counterbalance this by saying BDO is the best Asian MMORPG I've played, and I've been in many. Those who think it's a grind don't have a clue about what a real grind is... and definitely havent played Lineage 2 at release.
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  • SwampDragonsSwampDragons Member UncommonPosts: 350

    First you need to buy the game for 30 bucks minimum (cha ching!)

    Does this have anything to do with P2W? and how can you make a (cha ching!) when the game is very cheap.

    What a troll post or the OP is a monkey.




  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,236
    Never again asian games! They start as super awesome revolutionary games but every time i got burned.And eventually people realise that are just money sponge.Don't take my word just check the facts.
    Sorry for the fan boys that are gona rage over this.For the others peace and western games FTW!
    Please be more specific. Saying "Asian games" is a very general accusation. Say "Asian mmos" instead. As far as i can tell most Asian non-mmos wipe the floor with most western non-mmo games,
    Permit me to counterbalance this by saying BDO is the best Asian MMORPG I've played, and I've been in many. Those who think it's a grind don't have a clue about what a real grind is... and definitely havent played Lineage 2 at release.
    And i agree, i haven't enjoyed an mmo in a different way since forever. By different way i mean that its not the same leveling behavior from full themeparks. BDO is different, looks different, plays different. Its so good despite its flaws. Best experience ive had since GW2 launch. GW2 is my favorite mmo, and BDO is keeping me so hooked i already took another break from my mmo of choice.




  • pingopingo Member UncommonPosts: 608
    Herase said:
    Will have to agree to disagree.

    I hate P2W in games, but i'm just not seeing it here.  Hiding a name plate means nothing, I tend to hide name plates in every game as I find It more immersive and at no point do I feel disadvantaged. Auto looting pets and xp? Really? Auto loot is tog-gable in some games, also for the past few years people have been saying there's nothing wrong with XP potions and now it's a sudden problem? Why aren't there threads about other games that have XP potions or auto loot pets? Also the key goal of this game isn't leveling, so leveling fast means nothing. 

    When I see signs of them starting to head down that route, I'll be up in arms and back what you say, but right now nothing at this point is a problem.
    When Arche Age was released a lot of people  didn't see p2w there also. Shame though it was a good game. 
    This is poor selection bias. Trion is not Daum. They are different games. 

    It may be that BDO goes full ham on P2W, but using a "Archeage did it" argument is absolute garbage. 
  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,677
    The lack / little of character appearance customization via gear is dumb. No argument there. Not sure if the others would damage my experience as much.
  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,315
    ArChWind said:


    It is not the individual pieces that make it what it is. It the sum of the pieces. But you're all PvE so it really doesn't have any effect on you (yet).

    Just enjoy the PvE until it ends at 45. Once you get to 45 you will start to see how hard it is to get to 46 without dealing with some rather bad behavior.

    As stated elsewhere you think they are going to change things when they don't even ban people for being total jerks by killing people fighting the world boss?

    The game is PvP deal with it.

    I'm not all PvE, I'm against non-consensual PvP in MMORPGs.  There is a difference.  The difference between me and you, and the pro non-consensual PvP-centric players, is that when I want to get my PvP fix on, I go to where the big boys PvP, not some MMORPG where I can get my jollies off ganking players that aren't interested in PvPing with me.  I'm confident of my PvP skills.  I don't need to go around being an internet warrior bragging about how hard I can hit someone with my keyboard strikes.  I realize its a game, but I reject the mentality that just because its a game I can go around being an ass hat to people, ganking players just for the lulz and ruining their game play.  

    I'm of the mentality that I actually feel bad about the notion of taking advantage of an unsuspecting PvEer who was minding his/her business fishing, tending to their farm, or engaging in non-combat related activities. That's not what I consider fun, that's abusive anti-social behavior.  All I envision when I see that is a person sitting in front of a computer in their mommy's basement trying to compensate for what they lack in real life. Secure, confident, stable individuals don't need to go around trolling, trash talking, taking advantage of, or otherwise inconveniencing their fellow player's game time just to feel big and powerful.  The better PvPers enjoy consensual PvP.  Players arguing in support of non-consensual PvP get no sympathy from me and I will be an advocate against that type of game play every chance I get.  
    I am all for you dude. I have already quit. Can't move forward much now since at 50 it is just near impossible to do it without getting PK'ed three and four times a day. Spending more time going backwards than forward so screw it.

    Best luck on your adventures in BDO.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,678
    ArChWind said:

    I am all for you dude. I have already quit. Can't move forward much now since at 50 it is just near impossible to do it without getting PK'ed three and four times a day. Spending more time going backwards than forward so screw it.

    Best luck on your adventures in BDO.
    Why don't you just party up? Join a guild. Also, if someone bothers you and you are solo, change channels.





  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    edited March 2016
    I love BDO but it has some flaws, and some ever so slight P2W aspects. This is the proverbial norm today so we shouldn't all be surprised and upset. This is how gaming is presented nowadays even though most of us feel cheated. So what do we do? Pay the money and cry and hopefully you can get about 3 months of fun before you get P'ed off.
     
  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,315
    Sovrath said:
    ArChWind said:

    I am all for you dude. I have already quit. Can't move forward much now since at 50 it is just near impossible to do it without getting PK'ed three and four times a day. Spending more time going backwards than forward so screw it.

    Best luck on your adventures in BDO.
    Why don't you just party up? Join a guild. Also, if someone bothers you and you are solo, change channels.


    Okay sure join a guild and guilds bring wars and more PK. Well I am not the worlds best PvP'er anymore. Slow hands and brain LOL. I just took 20 million silver converted it to gold so I could put it into my chars inventory then hit delete, uninstall.

    Nope not going to bother with it. To many fuck wits in this one right now.
  • pingopingo Member UncommonPosts: 608
    ArChWind said:
    Sovrath said:
    ArChWind said:

    I am all for you dude. I have already quit. Can't move forward much now since at 50 it is just near impossible to do it without getting PK'ed three and four times a day. Spending more time going backwards than forward so screw it.

    Best luck on your adventures in BDO.
    Why don't you just party up? Join a guild. Also, if someone bothers you and you are solo, change channels.


    Okay sure join a guild and guilds bring wars and more PK. Well I am not the worlds best PvP'er anymore. Slow hands and brain LOL. I just took 20 million silver converted it to gold so I could put it into my chars inventory then hit delete, uninstall.

    Nope not going to bother with it. To many fuck wits in this one right now.
    You are right. Griefing is a major turn on for those people. Like talking shit on the internet, PK'ing people over and over trying to harass them is a outlet from their unsatisfying lives.


    But on the other hand, I think it's a shame if you throw in the towel. Getting to lvl 51 (let alone 56) actually takes skill in this game. It's actually hard due to the PK'ing and xp loss. you have more to lose. and suddenly there is a element of good versus bad people, honorable vs dishonorable people, right and wrong and this entire sense of duality. Something that other games doesn't have.

    And it makes the game exciting, and it makes getting higher levels mean something. So to have the excitement and challenge, the flip coin is that we have to deal with people like this.

    It might also end up being too much for me when I hit 50. Or 51. or 56. Like everyone else, I just want to make it to 56. But what if we get to 56, give up on grinding and we still get steamrolled by people who are above our levels? It might put a serious dent in the enjoyment too.


    And that is where Blade and Soul is the total opposite. Its PvE world is dead. its not exciting. Lvl 1-50 is just an excuse to learn your class. Your fast forwarding through the garbage story trying to grind and just get through all these deadless npcs. But its safe. there is instant travel. you dont lose xp when you die. And its boring as hell because there is nothing to do. But its more fair. its more of a skill based game. 


    I feel both sides have their strengths and weaknesses. I think the best way to have a good time is to play them in a way that makes sense. With BDO doesn't it make sense to try and figure out where you can go in the game world with less chances of getting ganked? and prepping yourself with emergency tools and positions. You also got V which can help you. 

    I believe some good community building can come through going with guildies who also need to level up. BDO is massive and the world is going to increase 2x with Media. You are going to be able to find a spot and win, so you can live to win...


  • rertezrertez Member UncommonPosts: 230
    WoW isn't p2w because you can't get the best gear with gold.  You could buy a million gold but still be a scrub struggling with tier 1 raids and getting 1 shot in pvp because in WoW, you have to earn the gear in-game, you don't just buy upgrades.
    You can even buy Mythic raid clears for ingame gold. Many of the raid groups in WoW offer Mythic run spots for people who have the funds. In fact some of my friends breeze through Mythic raids while they earn their monthly sub tokens by selling Mythic raids and loot to people. The best loot for ingame currency bought with real money is available in the game by its community.
  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,315
    pingo said:
     

    Getting to lvl 51 (let alone 56) actually takes skill in this game.
    LOL nope it don't take skill it just takes a lot of grind and tolerance of assholes. I have other things to do besides be constant target for them.

    Maybe restart kow or better yet see if I can unretire and go back to my old job. One month has been overly boring setting at home playing silly games anyway.
  • luclinraiderluclinraider Member UncommonPosts: 90
    I'm not even sure what to say....this has to be one of the most insecure, immature, uneducated threads full of nonsense I've ever seen.

    Your claim of P2W is based almost completely on a few of the cash shop items giving a small amount of bonus xp. Bonus xp isn't P2W, it just means you'll get max level a little bit faster.

    If you do the math actually, if you start the game and level 1-50 with every cash shop bonus xp item on at the same time as someone who doesn't have anything, and they play identical. The cash shop player will hit 50 at about the same time that the free player hits 47..........oh no....the free player has to play an extra 2-3 hours to catch up....and then they are on the exact same playing field. 

    Sorry, bonus xp is NOT p2w.

    And you other point.....buying the game.....???

    This made me laugh so hard. I've never heard of having to buy the game as p2w....but even if you tried, you couldn't argue it. Because EVERYONE who is playing had to buy the game....so it's not advantageous over any other player.

    The game isn't p2w at all, if anything the depth and complexity keeps it from being so. Someone with well set up trade routes and good workers can make more profit than someone trying to p2w at $100 a day.
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,517
    I'm not even sure what to say....this has to be one of the most insecure, immature, uneducated threads full of nonsense I've ever seen.

    Your claim of P2W is based almost completely on a few of the cash shop items giving a small amount of bonus xp. Bonus xp isn't P2W, it just means you'll get max level a little bit faster.

    If you do the math actually, if you start the game and level 1-50 with every cash shop bonus xp item on at the same time as someone who doesn't have anything, and they play identical. The cash shop player will hit 50 at about the same time that the free player hits 47..........oh no....the free player has to play an extra 2-3 hours to catch up....and then they are on the exact same playing field. 

    Sorry, bonus xp is NOT p2w.

    Soft level cap is 56.  Reaching level 50 just means you finally got finished with the tutorial.
  • GitmixGitmix Member UncommonPosts: 603
    DMKano said:
    p2w is defined in the gaming community as getting a advantage over another player by means of using cash.
    There is no accepted definition of P2W.
    Yes there is. Just because you won't admit you enjoy P2W games (first AA, now BDO to a lesser extent) doesn't mean there isn't a commonly accepted definition of what a P2W game is. The poster you quoted just said it loud and clear. The fact you don't agree or are too hypocritical to accept it doesn't make it invalid.
  • SyosSyos Member UncommonPosts: 5
    i Love when people who knows nothing go on internet and talk trash about game they know nothing about, all items via cash shop can be bought with ingame money, there is no such thing as op or p2w, but if you want to make excuses , sure every cash shop is pay to win from your perspective, because you don't understand what is p2w. Sure if you buy pets with cash and no ingame cash you will save yourself some money, but rly p2w? p2w is archeage, when you can benefit your gear with cash shop, this game has nothing even similiar to that. people like you need to be flagged for giving false information, and if you don't like the game, why spreading hate on forums...guess if there is no people like you forums would gone extinct

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,867
    edited March 2016
    Syos said:
    i Love when people who knows nothing go on internet and talk trash about game they know nothing about, all items via cash shop can be bought with ingame money,
    ...maybe follow your own advice?


    Even if you could trade cash shop items on the market, people would still call it "PW2" because you would be trading cash shop items for gold.


    Really, "P2W" is nothing more than derogatory label for things you cannot afford, meaningless term.
    Post edited by Gdemami on
  • FonclFoncl Member UncommonPosts: 347
    edited March 2016
    Yeah, unfortunately the MMORPG genre has become a genre where paying for advantages is widely accepted by the playerbase. Fortunately there are other genres of multiplayer games where that would never be accepted.

    OP you forgot about some things in the cash shop:
    • Payed respeccs of skills beyond one you get for free at lvl 45.
    • Instant revive on death which also removes the 2% experience loss of a death.
    • Extra character slots, you can buy 5 extra character slots. All characters regenerate energy passively. Energy is used for many things in the game like crafting, hiring workers, boosting nodes so the mobs in the area drop more loot, becoming friendly with NPCs for various benefits etc. More characters are also very useful for enchanting gear with blackstones by allowing you to use your fail stacks more efficiently. Parking alts in certain locations to perform a task like managing your farms or selling those boxes of sunflowers you crafted and shipped across the world will save a lot of time otherwise spent travelling.
    • Furniture for your house that gives buffs and a bed that lets you regenerate energy faster than the beds that can be obtained in-game.
    • Extra storage in all cities, usually you have to use contribution points for more storage. If you swipe your credit card you can use all your hard earned contribution points for other things instead like farming, workshops or node connections.
    • Horse breeding reset, pay to breed more times with those horses you worked so hard to level up and sell the extra offspring for some sweet silver.
    • Underwear with +1 luck, pay for better drops from mobs.
    • Horse/wagon/boat gear that makes them better than with gear obtainable in-game.
    • Horse flute that lets you call your horse from far away instead of having to run to get it.
    • A costume with +1 fishing skill and faster swim speed, fish faster.
    • Glasses that make you gain knowledge on mobs you kill quicker. S rank knowledge means you get more experience as well as better loot from those mobs. Once you get a rank it needs to be reset if you want to try to get a better rank.
    The game is good which is the sad part, ruined by the cash shop for me.
    Post edited by Foncl on
  • Vaticider69Vaticider69 Member UncommonPosts: 35
    I see a lot of socialist on here looking for handouts and entitlements, not realizing you need to work for it. MMOs seem to have become Starbucks...I like the coffee, but can't stand the whinny people I overhear online. 

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,077
    Sovrath said:
    ArChWind said:

    I am all for you dude. I have already quit. Can't move forward much now since at 50 it is just near impossible to do it without getting PK'ed three and four times a day. Spending more time going backwards than forward so screw it.

    Best luck on your adventures in BDO.
    Why don't you just party up? Join a guild. Also, if someone bothers you and you are solo, change channels.
    I don't see much of a point of being 45+ if you're not in a guild anyway.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,921
    edited March 2016
    Foncl said:
    Yeah, unfortunately the MMORPG genre has become a genre where paying for advantages is widely accepted by the playerbase. Fortunately there are other genres of multiplayer games where that would never be accepted.

    OP you forgot about some things in the cash shop:
    • Payed respeccs of skills beyond one you get for free at lvl 45.
    • Instant revive on death which also removes the 2% experience loss of a death.
    • Extra character slots, you can buy 5 extra character slots. All characters regenerate energy passively. Energy is used for many things in the game like crafting, hiring workers, boosting nodes so the mobs in the area drop more loot, becoming friendly with NPCs for various benefits etc. More characters are also very useful for enchanting gear with blackstones by allowing you to use your fail stacks more efficiently. Parking alts in certain locations to perform a task like managing your farms or selling those boxes of sunflowers you crafted and shipped across the world will save a lot of time otherwise spent travelling.
    • Furniture for your house that gives buffs and a bed that lets you regenerate energy faster than the beds that can be obtained in-game.
    • Extra storage in all cities, usually you have to use contribution points for more storage. If you swipe your credit card you can use all your hard earned contribution points for other things instead like farming, workshops or node connections.
    • Horse breeding reset, pay to breed more times with those horses you worked so hard to level up and sell the extra offspring for some sweet silver.
    • Underwear with +1 luck, pay for better drops from mobs.
    • Horse/wagon/boat gear that makes them better than with gear obtainable in-game.
    • Horse flute that lets you call your horse from far away instead of having to run to get it.
    • A costume with +1 fishing skill and faster swim speed, fish faster.
    • Glasses that make you gain knowledge on mobs you kill quicker. S rank knowledge means you get more experience as well as better loot from those mobs. Once you get a rank it needs to be reset if you want to try to get a better rank.
    The game is good which is the sad part, ruined by the cash shop for me.
    Thank you for properly calling these P2A and not PTW, you get the gold star.

    One question, can any of these be obtained in game by playing, trading with other players, or from the auction house in a reasonable timeframe?

    If so then they become PFC (pay for convenience).

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  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,350
    Cry about it.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,921
    Scambug said:
    DMKano said:
    p2w is defined in the gaming community as getting a advantage over another player by means of using cash.
    There is no accepted definition of P2W.
    Yes there is. Just because you won't admit you enjoy P2W games (first AA, now BDO to a lesser extent) doesn't mean there isn't a commonly accepted definition of what a P2W game is. The poster you quoted just said it loud and clear. The fact you don't agree or are too hypocritical to accept it doesn't make it invalid.
    Nonsense, just because ignorant masses improperly use terms such as MMO to describe games with 24 people in the world doesn't mean we have to accept their usage of it.

    Just as the first Massively modifying multiplayer, "W" is for "Win" and we have no shortage of dictionaries to help discern it's meaning from the term "advantage"

    P2W is paying for items of power or extreme, gameplay enhancing benefits that can not be obtained in game otherwise or take an unreasonable time to do so. (and severely impact other players experience)

    Learn the proper definition and you too can start having enlightened conversations.

    Of course in doing so you have to admit almost no MMORPGS sell these sort of items, meaning P2W is almost a myth rather than reality.

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,590
    rertez said:
    DMKano said:

    Granted the last time I played WoW was vanilla so maybe I am WAY wrong,  but the base price includes everything that is reasonably needed to play the game comfortably as far as end user experience. 

    I could not play BD without auto-looting pets due to AoE grind nature of the game for me - every minutes there are 30+ mobs dead that I'd have to click on without pets. It's pretty damn unplayable to me if I didn't have pets.

    PvP treant suit is a also a must IMO. Instant rez tears can be hugely useful in situations where your group gets rolled in PvP and is about to lose a node or grind spot.  Etc....

    Maybe WoW is the same way today  - there are things you must buy to make the game reasonably enjoyable, but I think that WoW includes everything in the base game.

    That is the difference. Again i haven't played WoW in 10+ years so maybe I am just flat out wrong.


    FYI WoW has a cash shop item called WoW Token that can be legally sold for ingame gold so that anyone can purchase gold for real money. Also if I'm not mistaken in WoW it's been legal to multibox with up to four accounts.

    And although it's not legal a lot of players tend to go the botting route in that game. It's clearly noticable that even BG's are loaded with bots especially during nights.

    Yet not many cry P2W due to the nature of a huge part of WoW's community. It always amazed me how the same people who remain silent about WoW's current business model bash on other games and call them P2W. I'm not talking about this particular "drama" about BDO offering some features through its cash shop but how a lot of WoW players tend to bash on every single MMO in general while they accept the fact that WoW has a fairly similar business model besides it's still being a monthly sub game. Some even talk about WoW being a good example of how MMOs should be offering paid services in 2016.

    Of course I'm not saying that it's typical of WoW's community but it's clear that there is a vocal crowd among them that don't accept any paid features in MMOs but the ones in WoW, including paid server transfers, paid faction changes, legalized gold selling, paid max level characters, cash shop exclusive mounts, legally playing simultaneously on multiple accounts, annoying chat spams, (illegal) botting even in PvP and so on. It's just strange how people judge different games.

    You are clearly delusional.  Pay to win means getting a big advantage in pvp.  People could care less in pve.  Wow does not have that feature.  There is nothing Blizzard sells that provides that.  BDO is not really pay-to-win.  There are a few items that give you an advantage, but they are something you can throw into what I call a maintenance fee.

    The problem with BDO there is no end game except pvp.  And the grind from 50-56 is major, typical Korean theme park game.  

    If I am going to pvp, I am most certainly NOT going to waste my time in this game. 
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,977
    Kyleran said:
    Foncl said:
    Yeah, unfortunately the MMORPG genre has become a genre where paying for advantages is widely accepted by the playerbase. Fortunately there are other genres of multiplayer games where that would never be accepted.

    OP you forgot about some things in the cash shop:
    • Payed respeccs of skills beyond one you get for free at lvl 45.
    • Instant revive on death which also removes the 2% experience loss of a death.
    • Extra character slots, you can buy 5 extra character slots. All characters regenerate energy passively. Energy is used for many things in the game like crafting, hiring workers, boosting nodes so the mobs in the area drop more loot, becoming friendly with NPCs for various benefits etc. More characters are also very useful for enchanting gear with blackstones by allowing you to use your fail stacks more efficiently. Parking alts in certain locations to perform a task like managing your farms or selling those boxes of sunflowers you crafted and shipped across the world will save a lot of time otherwise spent travelling.
    • Furniture for your house that gives buffs and a bed that lets you regenerate energy faster than the beds that can be obtained in-game.
    • Extra storage in all cities, usually you have to use contribution points for more storage. If you swipe your credit card you can use all your hard earned contribution points for other things instead like farming, workshops or node connections.
    • Horse breeding reset, pay to breed more times with those horses you worked so hard to level up and sell the extra offspring for some sweet silver.
    • Underwear with +1 luck, pay for better drops from mobs.
    • Horse/wagon/boat gear that makes them better than with gear obtainable in-game.
    • Horse flute that lets you call your horse from far away instead of having to run to get it.
    • A costume with +1 fishing skill and faster swim speed, fish faster.
    • Glasses that make you gain knowledge on mobs you kill quicker. S rank knowledge means you get more experience as well as better loot from those mobs. Once you get a rank it needs to be reset if you want to try to get a better rank.
    The game is good which is the sad part, ruined by the cash shop for me.
    Thank you for properly calling these P2A and not PTW, you get the gold star.

    One question, can any of these be obtained in game by playing, trading with other players, or from the auction house in a reasonable timeframe?

    If so then they become PFC (pay for convenience).

    Respec past the free one at 45 cannot be obtained in game.

    Instant revive on death can be obtained once every 5 days via loyalty points if you log in every day to claim them.

    Extra character slots can be obtained once every 50 days if you log in for 50 days to receive loyalty.

    Furniture can be obtained in game.

    Extra storage can br obtained in game, it is far easier via cash shop saves dozens of hours of doing mindless questing (yes I hate questing heh)

    Horse reset is cash shop only

    Lucky underwear - cash shop only

    Horse flute - cash shop only

    + fishing + swimming costume (faster than in game boats) cash shop only

    Glasses - cash shop only

    Pets that loot for you, detect enemy playera for you, detect crafting resource nodes for you - all 3 are cash shop only

    Treant suit that hides your player tag - a must for PvP - cash shop only


    Imo the treant suit and the pets are a must for every player. 

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