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Is VR mainstream yet?

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    DMKano said:
    Is it sold at Walmart? 

    If no - not mainstream yet.
    But it is sold at McDonald's......

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    CrazKanuk said:


    Again, that's something very novel. Again, if we were to consider Wii. Remember when you could fight with swords on Wii? That was awesome!! For about 2 minutes. Remember how Wii used to be used in old folks homes and stuff and casual gamers. Remember when it had exposed a whole new market? Then it just sort of lost that novelty. 

    That's what I mean. It's great if they can get a Star Wars game in VR. I do agree that it will sell some units. However, it doesn't mean that it's something practical, either, or good for that matter. 

    There are a couple interesting directions that companies are going. Obviously Oculus is high-end gaming focused, Sony is Playstation focused, Samsung and HTC are focused on mobility. So I think there's already significant fragmentation in a market whose size we're not even certain about. I do hope, though, that we're able to find more practical, everyday, uses for it. 
    let me put a finer tune on what I am saying:

    I think there is a chance that VR will be a larger hit for TV/Movies then for games.

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  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Absolutely not since mainstream is defined as the prevailing current of thought, influence, or activity.

    Maybe several generations in it might, but this first generation is a clusterf%^k
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    SEANMCAD said:
    CrazKanuk said:


    Again, that's something very novel. Again, if we were to consider Wii. Remember when you could fight with swords on Wii? That was awesome!! For about 2 minutes. Remember how Wii used to be used in old folks homes and stuff and casual gamers. Remember when it had exposed a whole new market? Then it just sort of lost that novelty. 

    That's what I mean. It's great if they can get a Star Wars game in VR. I do agree that it will sell some units. However, it doesn't mean that it's something practical, either, or good for that matter. 

    There are a couple interesting directions that companies are going. Obviously Oculus is high-end gaming focused, Sony is Playstation focused, Samsung and HTC are focused on mobility. So I think there's already significant fragmentation in a market whose size we're not even certain about. I do hope, though, that we're able to find more practical, everyday, uses for it. 
    let me put a finer tune on what I am saying:

    I think there is a chance that VR will be a larger hit for TV/Movies then for games.

    Actually, this is a great market for VR, and it's one that AR doesn't, necessarily, address. Also, VR is more suited to this due to the immersion that VR provides over AR. 

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    CrazKanuk said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    CrazKanuk said:


    Again, that's something very novel. Again, if we were to consider Wii. Remember when you could fight with swords on Wii? That was awesome!! For about 2 minutes. Remember how Wii used to be used in old folks homes and stuff and casual gamers. Remember when it had exposed a whole new market? Then it just sort of lost that novelty. 

    That's what I mean. It's great if they can get a Star Wars game in VR. I do agree that it will sell some units. However, it doesn't mean that it's something practical, either, or good for that matter. 

    There are a couple interesting directions that companies are going. Obviously Oculus is high-end gaming focused, Sony is Playstation focused, Samsung and HTC are focused on mobility. So I think there's already significant fragmentation in a market whose size we're not even certain about. I do hope, though, that we're able to find more practical, everyday, uses for it. 
    let me put a finer tune on what I am saying:

    I think there is a chance that VR will be a larger hit for TV/Movies then for games.

    Actually, this is a great market for VR, and it's one that AR doesn't, necessarily, address. Also, VR is more suited to this due to the immersion that VR provides over AR. 
    agreed

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    frostymug said:
    SEANMCAD said:

    we clearly have different definitions of mainstream.

    Mainstream to me mean most people know about it. Its not realted to the products balance sheets at all.

    By this definition space shuttles and polka music are mainstream
    OK, who doesn't love a good polka? :)

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  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    Heh at least VR is hype enough for pornhub to release a free VR channel :DDD

    link to article: https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/23/213232/pornhub-unveils-free-vr-porn-channel

    ^ It is safe for work
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Leon1e said:
    Heh at least VR is hype enough for pornhub to release a free VR channel :DDD

    link to article: https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/23/213232/pornhub-unveils-free-vr-porn-channel

    ^ It is safe for work
    Oh yeah! f8ck McDonalds, Disney and Star Wars NOW its prime time...ha!

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  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562
    Pornhub will be releasing Free VR porn. Yes it has just become mainstream. lolololol but in all honesty the first video that was produced with film was a porno. ugh boy
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    SEANMCAD said:
    Thane said:
    sure, if you got the cash :)

    would be too expensive for me too tho, hehe
    yeah some people buy nice cars others buy nice tech. I am the latter. I dont have a BMW
    just for the record, i am poor.
    all i got is my pc, and that ain't on max but rather good enough so i can play all games on a good max :>

    a new hardware of about 400 euro is something i can afford, 800 is something that is no way possible in my current situation atm.

    gaming is my bmw. i rather drive the manta tho :P


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  • IAmMMOIAmMMO Member UncommonPosts: 1,462
    edited March 2016
    VR will Properly will have carved out its niche by 2018, but now, the prices are early adopters prices. And mass adoption will wait for power of a medium rig setup to be wear a basic high end rig set up is today.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    IAmMMO said:
    VR will Properly will have carved out its niche, and have some good fun software to come along  to really give you some new experiences with by 2018, but now, the prices are early adopters prices. And mass adoption will wait for power of a medium rig setup to be wear a basic high end rig set up is today.
    I agree on your time line, I dont agree with your price reasoning.

    people keep talking about these prices as if I didnt buy a monitor last year for the EXACT same price as a Oculus Rift...which I did

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  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562
    SEANMCAD said:
    IAmMMO said:
    VR will Properly will have carved out its niche, and have some good fun software to come along  to really give you some new experiences with by 2018, but now, the prices are early adopters prices. And mass adoption will wait for power of a medium rig setup to be wear a basic high end rig set up is today.
    I agree on your time line, I dont agree with your price reasoning.

    people keep talking about these prices as if I didnt buy a monitor last year for the EXACT same price as a Oculus Rift...which I did

    can you post what that monitor was? I think my wide screen 26 inch is pretty big ($189.00) so im curious what $699.00 bought you
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    IAmMMO said:
    VR will Properly will have carved out its niche, and have some good fun software to come along  to really give you some new experiences with by 2018, but now, the prices are early adopters prices. And mass adoption will wait for power of a medium rig setup to be wear a basic high end rig set up is today.
    I agree on your time line, I dont agree with your price reasoning.

    people keep talking about these prices as if I didnt buy a monitor last year for the EXACT same price as a Oculus Rift...which I did

    can you post what that monitor was? I think my wide screen 26 inch is pretty big ($189.00) so im curious what $699.00 bought you
    I have no idea where I bought it 2 years ago.
    For ...sake just use amazon and look for yourself, its not like $700 27" monitors are rare or anything good greif

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    Leon1e said:
    Heh at least VR is hype enough for pornhub to release a free VR channel :DDD

    link to article: https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/03/23/213232/pornhub-unveils-free-vr-porn-channel

    ^ It is safe for work

    Yeah... now it is mainstream =P 

    Ok not really but getting the porn industry engaged is important because... well... masturbation. 

    This have been a good conversation

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    It's not mainstream until you start seeing your parents, siblings, and friends using it... just think Facebook here.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Its not mainstream yet, the devices are barely out there, and at the moment, its the plaything of those with high end pc's and a fairly large disposable income.
    This time next year, things might be different, but it is looking increasingly like Sony's VR will be the VR for the masses, while its still expensive, its a lot more affordable than all the other options by a significant degree. The only real question is whether or not PS4 owners decide to buy into it, if they do, then VR will finally have arrived.
    2016 isn't the year that VR became mainstream, but 2017 might be.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    observer said:
    It's not mainstream until you start seeing your parents, siblings, and friends using it... just think Facebook here.
    oh the irony...well said

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    is there a chance that a company owned by Facebook that has its product being advertised by McDonalds and where there is a Star Wars interactive content for has a chance of going mainstream?

    that is how I should have asked the question

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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    SEANMCAD said:
    is there a chance that a company owned by Facebook that has its product being advertised by McDonalds and where there is a Star Wars interactive content for has a chance of going mainstream?

    that is how I should have asked the question
    Probably not, but it will benefit a lot from other devices that stand a better chance of doing so.

    Funny should mention the Star Wars thing though, as the PS Move is likely to be utilised in a Star Wars VR game on the Sony VR device, its probably already in development somewhere. Now if the OR also has a peripheral like the PS Move, then that would be a good selling point, only, the price is already so high, that it again, will be only the few who can afford to get it.

    The VR battle was always going to be about money, in the end, which one had the best hardware was always going to come second place to which one was going to be affordable, its like GPU's you get the best one you can afford.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Phry said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    is there a chance that a company owned by Facebook that has its product being advertised by McDonalds and where there is a Star Wars interactive content for has a chance of going mainstream?

    that is how I should have asked the question
    Probably not, but it will benefit a lot from other devices that stand a better chance of doing so.

    Funny should mention the Star Wars thing though, as the PS Move is likely to be utilised in a Star Wars VR game on the Sony VR device, its probably already in development somewhere. Now if the OR also has a peripheral like the PS Move, then that would be a good selling point, only, the price is already so high, that it again, will be only the few who can afford to get it.

    The VR battle was always going to be about money, in the end, which one had the best hardware was always going to come second place to which one was going to be affordable, its like GPU's you get the best one you can afford.
    i think you just have a bias toward any VR project that is not Sony or Microsoft.

    anyway..I dont see in what I said in that sentence to suggest 'probably not' but ok? i guess?

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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    SEANMCAD said:
    Phry said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    is there a chance that a company owned by Facebook that has its product being advertised by McDonalds and where there is a Star Wars interactive content for has a chance of going mainstream?

    that is how I should have asked the question
    Probably not, but it will benefit a lot from other devices that stand a better chance of doing so.

    Funny should mention the Star Wars thing though, as the PS Move is likely to be utilised in a Star Wars VR game on the Sony VR device, its probably already in development somewhere. Now if the OR also has a peripheral like the PS Move, then that would be a good selling point, only, the price is already so high, that it again, will be only the few who can afford to get it.

    The VR battle was always going to be about money, in the end, which one had the best hardware was always going to come second place to which one was going to be affordable, its like GPU's you get the best one you can afford.
    i think you just have a bias toward any VR project that is not Sony or Microsoft.

    anyway..I dont see in what I said in that sentence to suggest 'probably not' but ok? i guess?
    I am more likely to give Sony the benefit of the doubt than Microsoft i guess, having said that, i am not really all that interested in VR that much, i don't particularly see myself as getting a VR device of any kind any time soon, not even the Sony VR despite the lower price.
    On another note, i still don't see the current/upcoming VR devices as being good enough, maybe in 5 years or so, they will be, but at the moment, for me personally, a monitor is not just better, but more suited to playing games on.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Phry said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Phry said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    is there a chance that a company owned by Facebook that has its product being advertised by McDonalds and where there is a Star Wars interactive content for has a chance of going mainstream?

    that is how I should have asked the question
    Probably not, but it will benefit a lot from other devices that stand a better chance of doing so.

    Funny should mention the Star Wars thing though, as the PS Move is likely to be utilised in a Star Wars VR game on the Sony VR device, its probably already in development somewhere. Now if the OR also has a peripheral like the PS Move, then that would be a good selling point, only, the price is already so high, that it again, will be only the few who can afford to get it.

    The VR battle was always going to be about money, in the end, which one had the best hardware was always going to come second place to which one was going to be affordable, its like GPU's you get the best one you can afford.
    i think you just have a bias toward any VR project that is not Sony or Microsoft.

    anyway..I dont see in what I said in that sentence to suggest 'probably not' but ok? i guess?
    I am more likely to give Sony the benefit of the doubt than Microsoft i guess, having said that, i am not really all that interested in VR that much, i don't particularly see myself as getting a VR device of any kind any time soon, not even the Sony VR despite the lower price.
    On another note, i still don't see the current/upcoming VR devices as being good enough, maybe in 5 years or so, they will be, but at the moment, for me personally, a monitor is not just better, but more suited to playing games on.
    fair enough. I do suggest however sometime by next year if you pass by a place that has a demo to check it out.

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    I think you know it's mainstream when you see pop stars using it in commercials.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016

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