Rob Irving (Former Lead Designer of Star Citizen) interview - admits Escapists article is true

JohnP0100 · March 2016

No one mentioned LOD anywhere in this thread but SC fanboys can't help themselves in taking shots at it. It is hilarious and a bit sad to see derek smart be in your thoughts 24/7.

Regardless, it is a false statement to say Rob left for Descent. That happened afterwards as Rob didn't have anything lined up when he left CIG.

So, stop LYING please.

And if you attack anyone one more time, GTFO this thread. WTF is this garbage posts?

Gaming.Rocks2 · March 2016

Distopia said:

JohnP0100 said:

DKLond said:

Oh, so it's an attack to give my impression of a nice low-key guy who'd rather be doing less challenging work?

Being irrationally defensive doesn't really support an objective point of view.

I've had that impression of him since I first saw him in Wingman's Hangar - along with the host. They both seemed like a couple of nice and entertaining guys who were ill-suited for a hugely ambitious project like Star Citizen - which surely demands you get in line with the vision.

A smaller project like rebooting Descent seems much more like their style - so I don't see a problem.

So you said 'Slacking off' and you do not consider that as a personal attack?

The guy was involved in 3 out of 5 Wing Commanders and you are now accusing him of preferring 'less challenging work'? LOLWUT?!

This is totally not a CULT guys!
#NOTACULT

Eh, what does that have to do with a cult?

They're a cult too no worries. Dan Brown is already working on his next title "White Knights & Haters". I would've gone with The Star Citizen Code myself and focused on development instead of people. Ah well, me and Dan never could agree on a project. O.o

Distopia · March 2016

JohnP0100 said:

Distopia said:

You realize (no pun intended)... that in the grand scheme of things an article only means something when it comes to a conclusion right? If CIG continues to make SC, then in turn releases it, that article and this admission really meant nothing. That's not the same thing as dismissing the content of the article, the allegations in that article could be nothing but the truth, yet without a follow up, as well as real investigation into the matter, it would all be for nothing, having no tangible result.

IF that's what Realizer is saying I can't disagree.

Nice shifting of the goal-post.
But again, stop LYING please.

Care to elaborate?

Erillion · March 2016

JohnP0100 said:

Regardless, it is a false statement to say Rob left for Descent. That happened afterwards as Rob didn't have anything lined up when he left CIG.

Straight from Robs LinkedIn account... worked for CIG until Feb 2015, started working for Descendent Studios in March 2015. Listed as Creative Director in the original DU team on the Kickstarter page as it started in March 2015. Successfully completed DU Kickstarter campaign in 11th April 2015.

TOTALLY not left CIG for Descent, amirite ?!!1!?! ;-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Creative Director

Descendent Studios

März 2015 – Heute (1 Jahr 1 Monat)Austin und Umgebung, Texas

We're bringing back Descent on Kickstarter - paying homage to the original while adding new gameplay elements and bringing modern graphics and technology to the classic six-degree-of-freedom space shooter.

Lead Designer - Star Citizen

Cloud Imperium Games

Februar 2013 – Februar 2015 (2 Jahre 1 Monat)Austin und Umgebung, Texas

Lead Designer for both the initial development of the persistent universe on Star Citizen. Heading up and building the Austin design team, working with leads on total product design. Community interaction.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you accuse other people of lying ... how about some fact checking of your own first ;-)

But you do not have to believe me ... just believe Rob ;-) as he wrote:

We're Putting the Band Back Together

https://descendentstudios.com/community/blog/16/entry-41-were-putting-the-band-back-together/

Have fun

Deathenger · March 2016

Erillion said:

JohnP0100 said:

Regardless, it is a false statement to say Rob left for Descent. That happened afterwards as Rob didn't have anything lined up when he left CIG.

Straight from Robs LinkedIn account... worked for CIG until Feb 2015, started working for Descendent Sudios in March 2015. Listed as Creative Director in the original DU team on the Kickstarter page as it started in March 2015. Successfully completed DU Kickstarter campaign in 11th April 2015.

TOTALLY not left CIG for Descent, amirite ?!!1!?! ;-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Creative Director
Descendent Studios
März 2015 – Heute (1 Jahr 1 Monat)Austin und Umgebung, Texas
We're bringing back Descent on Kickstarter - paying homage to the original while adding new gameplay elements and bringing modern graphics and technology to the classic six-degree-of-freedom space shooter.
Lead Designer - Star Citizen
Cloud Imperium Games
Februar 2013 – Februar 2015 (2 Jahre 1 Monat)Austin und Umgebung, Texas
Lead Designer for both the initial development of the persistent universe on Star Citizen. Heading up and building the Austin design team, working with leads on total product design. Community interaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you accuse other people of lying ... how about some fact checking of your own first ;-)

But you do not have to believe me ... just believe Rob ;-) as he wrote:
We're Putting the Band Back Together

https://descendentstudios.com/community/blog/16/entry-41-were-putting-the-band-back-together/

Have fun

Because Rob posted those comments and info while he was still working for CIG... amirite? amirite?

.....

Distopia · March 2016

Deathenger said:

Because Rob posted those comments and info while he was still working for CIG... amirite? amirite?

.....

Regardless he says in the video posted in the OP, he left for two major reasons, he wanted to work on a "smaller project", and he wanted to be the "creative guy" , so that's most certainly the position he wanted/was seeking.

Deathenger · March 2016

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Edit*** oops had you mixed up with another poster. Apologies

Broken.Arrow · March 2016

A bunch of rats, avid dreamers in their heart of hearts, slowly find themselves sinking after embarking on a fantastical marine journey.
Too bad, so sad...
For they knew not that their boat was created of used tissues and a whole of lot hot gas.

So...

What do the rats do, when the water starts to rise above their necks?

They just go ahead and perform a long collective circle jerk, because that will Always solves all their worries.

-- March 14 (Entry from Crobert's Journal of IamAwesome)

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How do I remember to switch on that computer??? How I playing herr derr with joystick???? Need to eat more and exercise extra chins before it becomes a personal ballchinnian.

-- March 15 (Entry from Crobert's Journal of IamAwesome)

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SEANMCAD · March 2016

Like I said, this OP and what he posted, and what he linked has nothing whatsoever remotely to do with anything related to HR practices.

Distopia · March 2016

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

how is it possible to not know that SC suffers from feature creep? why would anyone create a thread or post an article to address the obvious?

Deathenger · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Like I said, this OP and what he posted, and what he linked has nothing whatsoever remotely to do with anything related to HR practices.

The comments "there is certainly some truth to that (escape artists article)"

It was pretty effing clear that comment was directed to the entire article. The OP never claimed that thoes comments were directed to only one small piece of the article.

I'm sorry if it stings as you realize that hard earned money of yours has gone down that drain.

Distopia · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

how is it possible to not know that SC suffers from feature creep? why would anyone create a thread or post an article to address the obvious?

I really didn't get the impression he was referring to Feature creep, if anything it seemed he was just trying not to step on any toes, first by not getting involved with the drama second by not dismissing allegations made (the line where he acknowledges rumors don't manifest themselves, is what gives me that impression).. Seemed like a guy that wanted to move on and not carry any baggage with him from either side.

Deathenger · March 2016

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

Yeah I did. My bad. Couldn't figure out how to delete the whole post so I only three an edit comments t in there.

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Distopia said:

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

how is it possible to not know that SC suffers from feature creep? why would anyone create a thread or post an article to address the obvious?

I really didn't get the impression he was referring to Feature creep, if anything it seemed he was just trying not to step on any toes, first by not getting involved with the drama second by not dismissing allegations made (the line where he acknowledges rumors don't manifest themselves is what gives me that impression).. Seemed like a guy that wanted to move on and not carry any baggage with him.

so....yeah if it wasnt about any HR practices at all whatsoever and it wasnt about feature creep then it was about nothing?

imagine that another useless post in a SC forums

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Deathenger said:

SEANMCAD said:

Like I said, this OP and what he posted, and what he linked has nothing whatsoever remotely to do with anything related to HR practices.

The comments "there is certainly some truth to that (escape artists article)"

It was pretty effing clear that comment was directed to the entire article. The OP never claimed that thoes comments were directed to only one small piece of the article.

I'm sorry if it stings as you realize that hard earned money of yours has gone down that drain.

lol,,,,,no it wasnt. not even remotely close to that.

I AM A STAR CITIZEN CRITIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Distopia · March 2016

Deathenger said:

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

Yeah I did. My bad. Couldn't figure out how to delete the whole post so I only three an edit comments t in there.

It's all good haha, happens to us all from time to time.

Broken.Arrow · March 2016

And while it's fun to dump on The Escapist for not carrying through, let us take a moment to pay homage to the genius braveheart that is Ortwin Freyermutt.
To be insulted is insulting enough...but to threaten 'Legal' action (after being a supposed 'Lawyer' nonetheless) and then pussying away with his tail between his legs...is an act of unparalleled chivalry.

But what would have been (pure conjecturing here) truly a sight for the ages would be Ortwin having to face Sandi, AKA The Hidden Bastard Mistress And Wife Twin Trouble, after The Escapist article. Ducking and dodging all those bolts of vitriolic bile flowing out from her oral orifice, in between seething choruses of, "fukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfuk".

Poor man Ortwin. Atleast The Escapist can patiently wait to drop the hammer, with a followup article once the ungodly chunk of shit hits the turbine fans

( after which chickenshite sites like this one will grow a pair to post something negative regarding the Later day Religion of Roberts).

Ortwin though...is only left with all those millions of backer funds, siphoned into...his safekeeping...and no hole large enough to hide his embarrassed face in. Poor, rich man Ortwin.

This tinfoil is so tight over my head. Perhaps I need to buy a picture of a ship to ease away this pain??

Distopia · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

how is it possible to not know that SC suffers from feature creep? why would anyone create a thread or post an article to address the obvious?

I really didn't get the impression he was referring to Feature creep, if anything it seemed he was just trying not to step on any toes, first by not getting involved with the drama second by not dismissing allegations made (the line where he acknowledges rumors don't manifest themselves is what gives me that impression).. Seemed like a guy that wanted to move on and not carry any baggage with him.

so....yeah if it wasnt about any HR practices at all whatsoever and it wasnt about feature creep then it was about nothing?

imagine that another useless post in a SC forums

My point is he didn't seem to want to discuss that at all, his answer was as vague as well as centric as he could be it seemed.

Deathenger · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

SEANMCAD said:

Distopia said:

Deathenger said:

Funny how you were able to comprehend the above from the video, but continually make the claim his comments about the escape artist article are in reference to feature creep. Even though no mention of feature creep was made.

Huh? I think you have me mixed up with Sean...

how is it possible to not know that SC suffers from feature creep? why would anyone create a thread or post an article to address the obvious?

I really didn't get the impression he was referring to Feature creep, if anything it seemed he was just trying not to step on any toes, first by not getting involved with the drama second by not dismissing allegations made (the line where he acknowledges rumors don't manifest themselves is what gives me that impression).. Seemed like a guy that wanted to move on and not carry any baggage with him.

so....yeah if it wasnt about any HR practices at all whatsoever and it wasnt about feature creep then it was about nothing?

imagine that another useless post in a SC forums

I honestly believe you are just trolling at this point. There is no way you can be this oblivious. Trying to continue explaining things to you at this point would just be a waster of time.

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Broken.Arrow said:

And while it's fun to dump on The Escapist for not carrying through, let us take a moment to pay homage to the genius braveheart that is Ortwin Freyermutt.
To be insulted is insulting enough...but to threaten 'Legal' action (after being a supposed 'Lawyer' nonetheless) and then pussying away with his tail between his legs...is an act of unparalleled chivalry.

But what would have been (pure conjecturing here) truly a sight for the ages would be Ortwin having to face Sandi, AKA The Hidden Bastard Mistress And Wife Twin Trouble, after The Escapist article. Ducking and dodging all those bolts of vitriolic bile flowing out from her oral orifice, in between seething choruses of, "fukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfukfuk".

Poor man Ortwin. Atleast The Escapist can patiently wait to drop the hammer, with a followup article once the ungodly chunk of shit hits the turbine fans
( after which chickenshite sites like this one will grow a pair to post something negative regarding the Later day Religion of Roberts).
Ortwin though...is only left with all those millions of backer funds, siphoned into...his safekeeping...and no hole large enough to hide his embarrassed face in. Poor, rich man Ortwin.

This tinfoil is so tight over my head. Perhaps I need to buy a picture of a ship to ease away this pain??

you seem to know FAR to much about this subject to be even remotely healthy. i dont even who who these people are you are refering to

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Deathenger said:

SEANMCAD said:

so....yeah if it wasnt about any HR practices at all whatsoever and it wasnt about feature creep then it was about nothing?

imagine that another useless post in a SC forums

I honestly believe you are just trolling at this point. There is no way you can be this oblivious. Replying to you at this point would just be a waster of time.

whatever makes you happy but I am telling you if there was any substance the OP would have bothered to at least post a quote. should I check his quotes again? is that what you are suggesting ?

Distopia · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Deathenger said:

SEANMCAD said:

so....yeah if it wasnt about any HR practices at all whatsoever and it wasnt about feature creep then it was about nothing?

imagine that another useless post in a SC forums

I honestly believe you are just trolling at this point. There is no way you can be this oblivious. Replying to you at this point would just be a waster of time.

whatever makes you happy but I am telling you if there was any substance the OP would have bothered to at least post a quote. should I check his quotes again? is that what you are suggesting ?

Or you could just watch the video, and have your own quote

SEANMCAD · March 2016

Deathenger said:

I honestly believe you are just trolling at this point. There is no way you can be this oblivious. Trying to continue explaining things to you at this point would just be a waster of time.

I want to thank you for encouraging me to look into this some more. I have you to thank for that.

here is one of many quotes form the OP:

'Another interesting note is the talk of 'feature creep' and the lack of the producers ability to say 'No' to a wish that someone came up with'

are you saying the OP and the artlces posted have nothing whatsover to do with 'feature creep'? or would you like me to become more of an expert on this subject?

Deathenger · March 2016

SEANMCAD said:

Deathenger said:

I honestly believe you are just trolling at this point. There is no way you can be this oblivious. Trying to continue explaining things to you at this point would just be a waster of time.

I want to thank you for encouraging me to look into this some more. I have you to thank for that.

here is one of many quotes form the OP:

'Another interesting note is the talk of 'feature creep' and the lack of the producers ability to say 'No' to a wish that someone came up with'

are you saying the OP and the artlces posted have nothing whatsover to do with 'feature creep'? or would you like me to become more of an expert on this subject?

Maybe it's me, maybe it's you, but I believe we're arguing about two separate parts if the OP post.

For some reason, I've gotten under the impression that your constantly bringing up feature creep in relation to the comments Rob made about the Escape Artists article being true.

This must be a brain fart day for me.

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