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Beta Impressions: Why I Won't Be Playing BDO

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,624
    edited February 2016
    Silynse said:

    JUST WENT ONLINE TO REQUEST REFUND. 
    Why didn't you do your "due diligence" before you spent a dime? Why are you spending money on a product you know nothing about?

    as far as I'm concerned /lessonlearned. (I hope)



  • Jonnyp2Jonnyp2 Member UncommonPosts: 243
    I guess you checked the box that essentially said you can no longer refund the product after launching Cbt2.  I'm sure if you whine enough they will still give you the refund, which shouldn't be a problem for you.  I hope not though, you deserve to lose your money.

    You could have found information addressing every issue you brought up prior to pre ordering the game.  Nothing you stated is new information.  In fact it seems like you did look up information from the Kr/Russian release as there is no way you could have a legitimate opinion about class diversity or end game after a couple hours of beta.  So did you just preorder a game which you knew you wouldn't like because the graphics are pretty? 
  • donger56donger56 Member RarePosts: 443
    This game has been a retail game in 3 different regions for over a year now. There were no secrets with this one. If it wasn't the game you wanted it to be then you didn't bother to do any research at all. This is not the WoW clone you were looking for. Plenty of mindless carrot on a stick theme park games out there for you to play. Next time do a little homework and save yourself some money, time, and emotional turmoil.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,210
    One less hater in the game, good.




  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Dont support this game because i hate it.

    Ok.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • rubydragon5rubydragon5 Member UncommonPosts: 687
    wow , sounds like a kiddy didnt do any research before buying





  • DatcydeDatcyde Member UncommonPosts: 554
    edited February 2016
    That's why I pLayed EvE for somany years and Lineage 2 because of the PVP that had a point I promised never to go back to eve and and l2 is dead to me so I'll have to wait u til June when I build my new PC and try Blade and Soul I really wanna play Crow fall though.
  • SalmonManSalmonMan Member UncommonPosts: 157
    edited February 2016
    Silynse said:
    I just played the beta for a few hours. Heres the breakdown as to why I wont be playing this game or buying it any time soon. And you can agree or disagree really wont matter, but this is informative for those who haven't tried it.

    1. GENDER SPECIFIC CLASSES. You cant chose to be a female warrior, or a male archer or chose gender for any other class besides the wizard. Its ridiculous, boring, and quite shocking for a modern mmo.

    2. Autopathing to quests. First off, HOW LAZY DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NEED THIS GOD DAMNED UTILITY. Secondly, its buggy, boring, and implemented poorly. I mean seriously, how lazy are you that you want to play a game, but not actually play it....

    3. No endgame content, no world bosses, and no raids. You can go on many forums, and on many YouTube videos, and they go on about the lack of end game content. Even after three years in Korea. Which means, no, they wont be spending the money to implement that in the US, since they are using our market to bolster sales obviously, to move on to the next development that they wont bring to us until its been in Asian markets for 3 years.

    4. Chat only allows for the typing of 2 lines worth of words, which makes conversation difficult in groups.

    5. Insane lack of diversity in heroes. yes you can change how you look in the beginning, ultimately, who cares because its all covered in head to toe armor. Its the typical Korean mmo. Everyone has the same armor in the same zones. Everyone has the same color, and the same helmet, same shield, same sword...

    6. There is little to know effort put in to voice over correctly during cut scenes. The rest of the time there is no voiceover. It just plain cheeses out the entire thing. Horrible.

    Honestly, this game looks great. Graphically it is impressive. Fight mechanics are fun. But the game falls VERY VERY VERY short of having survivability in US markets because it simply doesn't have anything to offer outside of creating a home and grinding yourself into the ground farming resources.
    As said earlier, there are many complaints about the lack of interest in the developers to create end game content, or significant amounts of raids and diversity; which is what is needed to maintain a western market audience. The west likes to be unique and possess individuality in our heroes we create, and we like to feel like we have a cause outside of fighting one another over resource nodes that honestly have no political input into the games world. It might as well be a raid, either way, we aren't changing the face of the imaginary world we are interacting with, EVER.

    I may try back in a year and see if they have added enough pve endgame, maybe a few raids, or some good bosses to take down.... something.... anything besides "kill 5 wolves, kill 20 harder wolves, kill 40 harder weasels, kill 25 snakes, and then 25 poisonous snakes." lol Its really bad. It is pretty much lineage with some thrown in housing mechanics.

    I really wanted to love this game. I love the character looks, and the feel of the fights, but ultimately it becomes boring VERY fast because of the lack of diversity and effort placed into character arc development, lack of story, lack of common enemy, and lack of a system which brings unity to the player base.
    Its a huge clustery, grindfest, with poor mechanics overall.

    JUST WENT ONLINE TO REQUEST REFUND. "Customer Support will not refund pre-order packages if the user has downloaded and/or launched the game client." This is a Korean market scam man. If you try the game, even as a beta. Even just download the client. Youre screwed. Don't support this kind of company, or game. Period. This is worse than the BS that EA was pulling the past few years. Screw these guys.
    1. Yes. But I don't care about this.
    2. Been using this in the beta - it's great. Haven't encountered any bugs. Others mileage may vary I guess. I want this in my other MMO's please lol.
    3. This does bother me, I'll be honest. Like, what are you supposed to do? I quite like raids and wb's. Hmmmm. Depends how much other stuff thier is to do. 
    4. Chat? Meh. I'm generally anti social and have many anxietys interacting with people I don't know. So, again, don't care.
    5. Don't care.
    6. Yeah, these were hilariously bad. And I think they copy pasted thier setting, plot, story out of the book "Fantasy MMO's for Dummies". I haven't cringed that hard in a long time.

    I also quite like the trade and hubs systems - that's really interesting. And some of the other game systems like horses and fishing, housing, etc,etc.

    Summary: I've enjoyed what I've played so far in the beta, but this isn't the glorious ray of sunshine coming out of gods asshole that many were predicting. But, it is what it is, and doesn't try to hide that - A buy to play MMO, with lots of grinding and killing stuff, and a cash shop. End of story.

    Its only $30, and for that's fine for what you get. The higher packs seem like a waste of money. Everyone should just know what it's about before they hand over some cash, and it's pretty easy I find that out.

    NOTE: As to it being a scam? Nope. You might not like it, or didn't bother to take 3 seconds to check before paying over $$$$, but it ain't no scam. They are totally up front about how the game operates. Many won't like it, and I don't even like some of it, but a scam it is not.

    NOTE 2: Disclaimer - I didn't pre order. I am playing using a free beta key. So, not an invested fanboi :-P
  • forcelimaforcelima Member UncommonPosts: 232
    It will drop the box price soon . I'll give it a go then but I'll be damn if I'm paying 30$ where 2 other region get it free. 

  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,489
    forcelima said:
    It will drop the box price soon . I'll give it a go then but I'll be damn if I'm paying 30$ where 2 other region get it free. 

    Even then I think it will struggle against the likes of BnS. This smells like the Asian Wildstar.
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    *sigh*

    So you don't like the game and it's a scam?
    Or the fact that it has always said clearly if you pre-order and play the game, you can't refund?

    And no, I'm not even defending the game. I don't own and probably never will. I just don't understand the need to throw a tantrum when there's really no news here.

    Basically, you bought the game, it wasn't as good as you hoped for and now you want your money back.
    Pre-ordering a product that is not out of development and then opening the client a single time should not preclude a refund. I would not hesitate to request a chargeback with that amount of fuckery. Wonder what the reason is? I'm guessing they have suspicions that the game is going to flop in NA/EU just like it has everywhere else it has launched. 
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited February 2016
    Silynse said:

    2. Autopathing to quests. First off, HOW LAZY DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NEED THIS GOD DAMNED UTILITY. Secondly, its buggy, boring, and implemented poorly. I mean seriously, how lazy are you that you want to play a game, but not actually play it....


    This is what's most striking about BDO. The insane ease of the gameplay.

    "Hey, here is a giant world....oh, and you travel through it with waypoints and automatically run to quest NPC....don't need to even be at your screen"

    lol?

    you don't even need to explore the game, the game is already explored for you, with everything marked on your map and waypoints to everything

    why even bother playing at all? just send people loot by mail while they're afk
  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Kiyoris said:
    Silynse said:

    2. Autopathing to quests. First off, HOW LAZY DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NEED THIS GOD DAMNED UTILITY. Secondly, its buggy, boring, and implemented poorly. I mean seriously, how lazy are you that you want to play a game, but not actually play it....


    This is what's most striking about BDO. The insane ease of the gameplay.

    "Hey, here is a giant world....oh, and you travel through it with waypoints and automatically run to quest NPC....don't need to even be at your screen"

    lol?
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,331
    I didn't know much about BDO and its been talked about a lot here.  Basically, for me, the combat system may be the only thing that would appeal to me, but everything else seems to kill it, so this impression was enough for me to determine this isn't a game I'd be into.

    As for the beta thing.. I mean.. when you preorder a game, generally if you are in a beta, and its not a released product, you CAN get your money back for it... so I think people are being kind of harsh.  While I wouldn't go so far as saying its a "scam"  I'd probably have said, "they have an unorthodox return policy" but, I guess I don't have to worry much about that now as I probably won't be picking this up unless they expand character creation and fix some of the pathing issues. 



  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited February 2016
    Daikuru said:
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
    the POINT of MMO should be EXPLORATION, ADVENTURE, RISK / REWARD and COMMUNITY

    not clicking on a map and autorunning afk everywhere, it's like playing with zombies
  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,489
    *sigh*

    So you don't like the game and it's a scam?
    Or the fact that it has always said clearly if you pre-order and play the game, you can't refund?

    And no, I'm not even defending the game. I don't own and probably never will. I just don't understand the need to throw a tantrum when there's really no news here.

    Basically, you bought the game, it wasn't as good as you hoped for and now you want your money back.
    Pre-ordering a product that is not out of development and then opening the client a single time should not preclude a refund. I would not hesitate to request a chargeback with that amount of fuckery. Wonder what the reason is? I'm guessing they have suspicions that the game is going to flop in NA/EU just like it has everywhere else it has launched. 
    Ok so you knew it had already flopped elsewhere, even as a ftp game. This makes the decision to blindly throw money at the game even more bizarre.
    With a bit of effort, getting a beta key wasn't that hard. Far better doing a bit of site searching than throwing money at it then complaining that you threw money at it.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,624
    Kiyoris said:
    Daikuru said:
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
    the POINT of MMO should be EXPLORATION, ADVENTURE and COMMUNITY

    not clicking on a map and autorunning afk everywhere, it's like playing with zombies
    You can still do that. Explore and Adventure. The community bit is a "your mileage may vary" proposition.

    Or have we come to the point where players just can't think for themselves and if the game offers something they "have to" do it/"have to" use it?





  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    Kiyoris said:
    Daikuru said:
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
    the POINT of MMO should be EXPLORATION, ADVENTURE and COMMUNITY

    not clicking on a map and autorunning afk everywhere, it's like playing with zombies
    And MY POINT is that you have the choice, go and walk around, explore, have an adventure, be part of a community. You dont have to use all the conveniences.  There will be plenty of people walking around.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    JudgeUK said:
    *sigh*

    So you don't like the game and it's a scam?
    Or the fact that it has always said clearly if you pre-order and play the game, you can't refund?

    And no, I'm not even defending the game. I don't own and probably never will. I just don't understand the need to throw a tantrum when there's really no news here.

    Basically, you bought the game, it wasn't as good as you hoped for and now you want your money back.
    Pre-ordering a product that is not out of development and then opening the client a single time should not preclude a refund. I would not hesitate to request a chargeback with that amount of fuckery. Wonder what the reason is? I'm guessing they have suspicions that the game is going to flop in NA/EU just like it has everywhere else it has launched. 
    Ok so you knew it had already flopped elsewhere, even as a ftp game. This makes the decision to blindly throw money at the game even more bizarre.
    With a bit of effort, getting a beta key wasn't that hard. Far better doing a bit of site searching than throwing money at it then complaining that you threw money at it.
    I haven't paid them anything as I already know how this game is going to turn out. I was addressing the refund policy which is not consumer friendly. I've never heard of a company refusing refunds during a beta for things like opening the client. I can understand refusing a refund post-launch when a person may have spent a lot more time playing, but this is a beta. The servers will be wiped if I'm not mistaken, so why refuse a refund?
  • VanyeVanye Member UncommonPosts: 7
    Silynse said:

    JUST WENT ONLINE TO REQUEST REFUND. "Customer Support will not refund pre-order packages if the user has downloaded and/or launched the game client." This is a Korean market scam man. If you try the game, even as a beta. Even just download the client. Youre screwed. Don't support this kind of company, or game. Period. This is worse than the BS that EA was pulling the past few years. Screw these guys.


    I'm guessing you were in such a hurry to play the game that you neglected to read what you were clicking in order for the game to launch. In order for the game to even launch, you had to agree to waiving your rights to a refund. It was very clearly written.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 34,835
    edited February 2016
    Kiyoris said:
    Daikuru said:
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
    the POINT of MMO should be EXPLORATION, ADVENTURE, RISK / REWARD and COMMUNITY

    not clicking on a map and autorunning afk everywhere, it's like playing with zombies
    Well I agree that autorun is a lame feature.  It's really a shame that they make you use it.

    Oh wait, they don't so where exactly is the problem?

    (there might be a hint in your computer screen's reflection)  :p

    I mean EVE has autopilot, but I don't use it much either.

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  • pinktailzpinktailz Member UncommonPosts: 173
    Well it is meant to be F2P game, so don't expect a lot of content, at the other hand people need more fun and social based endgame stuff, leave raids in world of warcraft ples.
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    I was browsing reddit and apparently it costs you all of your energy (labor points) to report someone, and also costs energy to use chat. 
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,934
    edited February 2016
    Kyleran said:
    Kiyoris said:
    Daikuru said:
    You are not forced to use waypoints and auto run? lol.
    the POINT of MMO should be EXPLORATION, ADVENTURE, RISK / REWARD and COMMUNITY

    not clicking on a map and autorunning afk everywhere, it's like playing with zombies
    Well I agree that autorun is a lame feature.  It's really a shame that they make you use it.
    Oh wait, they don't so where exactly is the problem?
    (there might be a hint in your computer screen's reflection)  :p
    I mean EVE has autopilot, but I don't use it much either.
    Yeah, it's silly soapbox rhetoric.

    I've been checking out autopathing. So far it's a very indirect route. It basically takes you along a roadway, like a route you would realistically travel. You bump into every player and NPC along the way which slows you down. It's essentially the most inefficient way to get to your destination.

    If you manually path to your destination you can take a beeline and get there very fast.

    In either event may choose to stop and explore or not.

    Autopathing is nice because it gives you time to read through the skill menu and figure out what the damn combos are and what skills and combos you want to use and then trying to remember them. So far that has been the biggest challenge. Do I want to use S + F + LMB or S + F + RMB or D + RMB or S + LMB or W + LMB or......yeah, it's a little bit of a learning curve just on that.

    Their skill system is like the Faberge commerical - you'll press this skill button and another and another and so on and so on....
     

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  • VelocinoxVelocinox Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Torval said:

    Their skill system is like the Faberge commerical - you'll press this skill button and another and another and so on and so on....
     

    Did....

    Did you just... post something from your fap library to make a point on MMORPG?

    I don't know if that's sad or awesome...

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