Thats not a logical answer...because you can reverse it and come to the same conclusion. SWTOR or any other sci-fi mmo does nothing different than wildstar. It answers nothing, but thanks for the response.
It doesnt have an established IP makes more sense.
I'm just gonna say it, I think it's all about that art style. Quite why they thought loony toon cowboys in space was gonna be a big pull is beyond me, especially when they are competing with WoW and games that offer high quality models etc.
They even altered models to try placate SJW and that got them even more hate.
The game is too difficult for some cats, so they blame the combat for being bad when they themselves can't wrap their minds around the mechanics of the game.
Like I've said before hit lvl 20 run your first dungeon and hear all the crying. Unless they nerfed it, plan on getting your asses handed to you if you're not proactive.
I have nothing bad to say about the WS I'm just too
No, it's not a more in-depth WoW or WoW 2.0. It's just bad and doesn't hold a candle to WoW, if it did you wouldn't be asking "why is it dead?" If it did, it would have a good sized player base.
During the development period, I got to watch a video hosted by this site, interviewing a panel of MMO developers from SoE (EQN), FunCom (TSW) and Carbine (WS) ANd they were all asked what they were doing to make their games different. Wild Star answered 1st. Their answer......."Combat" I knew right then and there the game was doomed. But then, as time moved on, I remember seeing a YouTube of a chest puzzle lock. It was a Simon Mini-game. I was left speechless. What were these guys thinking? It was evident (to me at least) This game would never amount to anything.
For me style, UI, and just seemed all too narrow somehow. Made it to level 8 3-4 weeks ago. Saying that I made it to level 7 in GW2 and level 5 in FFXIV before I quit so maybe its better who knows.
Because it's a WoW clone that made what people SAID they wanted instead of making what they REALLY wanted.
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire: Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
get to lvl 50 and start doing pug vet dungeons you will see the game if full of people that dont have time for n00bs and if you don't 1 shot a boss + do 110% damage you will be kicked.
also all the best gear is locked behind 20man raids that you need to revolve your life around to stand any chance of geting the uber weapons
are you single with no kids ? then this might just be the game for you.
ohh just to let you know i am all up for spending time in a mmo, im just not spending every night in the same raid.
^^^ Yeah, this and TSW are both terrible about this you must have so and so build or don't even bother because you will never get anywhere.....
Everytime I log into TSW this is the first thing I see in chat and instantly my stomach starts to churn... I hate games where I feel pigeon holed into certain skills
This breaks my heart. TSW is another game I love, but for some reason once I upgraded my PC TSW randomly started crashing. But yes...l that game also suffers from elitists.
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Just pick this one up.. got a spellslinger to 10 then medic to 13. With all the shit mmos out there and terrible f2p models theres no reason this game should be a ghost town. The biggest flaw of the game right now is low level population. To me its a more indepth version of WoW or WoW 2.0. Does the game start good and become superman 64 after lvl 20 or something ? what am I missing?
With all the efforts to fix issues it had, low pop can be the silent killer. It takes a lot of skill and a fair bit of luck to pull out of a low level tail spin. Low pop, can in and of itself, be the killer.
I found the style way over the top- cartoon graphics, cartoon humor, the game saying "way to go, cupcake" when you level up... basically borderline offensive as an adult.
If the combat or pvp or something was amazing, I could overlook these things. But they aren't imo.
The style choice is especially bizarre when you consider the game was launched as being for hardcore raiders. Why would any hardcore raider want to be called a cupcake?
I didn't like the combat style or the way quests were laid out. Skills gave me nothing to really look forward to having. Everything else was ok.
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I only briefly played the beta. I never got hooked. I played abit and did some quests and logged off. I just never had the urge to log back in. Maybe it was the IP that just wasn't there, but i dont think so. I never player any warcraft games before wow and that sucked me in. That game just had me hooked from level 1.
I just never cared about Wildstars world or the npc's in Wildstar or my own character. It lacked immersion i guess. I dont think it was a bad game, i just never got to the point where i cared.
TL;DR - The game never found it's audience. Cartoonish graphics with overly difficult content, and very little to chew on initially (can't really say now, since I haven't played in a while).
It's still a pretty good game, and I would definitely say give it a shot.
I enjoyed the game but I was playing on the EU pvp server and when I got to level 50 there just didn't seem to be much of a community . There seemed to be only one English speaking guild actively recruiting on the server whenever I logged in and when I sent messages of interest to who ever was recruiting I never got a reply so ended up giving up on the game . Shame really because its not a bad mmo in my opinion .
I tried WS twice and just hated the graphic style. Nothing really caught me. Overly cute stuff was just arch rather than actually cute. I tend to vet games pretty rigorously these days. If a game says that it's designed for hardcore players, I believe it and stay away. By the time they did a 180, the parade has passed by.
And don't think SWTOR had an easy ride. Those yahoos almost broke their game as well, but they managed to pull it out of a crash dive. But then SWTOR has a great IP, movies that reignite interest and a demonstrably unique approach for an MMO which Bioware has finally figured out how to make work.
Also, don't be too dismissive of the combat style as a negative. When almost all of us live by the computer these days, having any kind of hand, wrist, arm or shoulder injury is very, very bad news. Repetitive strain injuries (the oft mis-named carpal tunnel syndrome) for those afflicted most definitely impacts the games you play.
There will be tons of different answers as to why the game sucked. The real question should be, "What did the game do better?" What did it do better than the last game you played? And was it so much better that it captivated you and kept you playing despite all the things you didn't like?
I don't care what game you ask about on these forums, you will hear a bunch of different reasons why someone didn't like it. Hell, millions of people have complained about WOW for years, yet millions still played it. WOW, EQ 2, EVE, GW2, SWTOR, DDO, TSW, FFXIV, etc, etc. All have plenty of things wrong with them, but still find a way to keep some sort of player base because of a hook.
WS threw a ton of hooks at us. Sci-fi, cartoon graphics (yeah, some liked it), action combat, hardcore to the max, the list goes on and on. It didn't do anything better enough to keep people playing (that is a grammatical nightmare right there, but you know what I mean). It left too many people saying, "Such and such was ok about it, but it wasn't better than Game X."
Take a favorite book for example. We'll use Moby Dick. Many people who like it could read it over and over. Then comes along Mabi Rick. Same exact story, maybe even written a little bit, but not a lot, better. You may read it and go, "Meh, worth my time, but I will never read it again. I would rather ready Moby Dick." And you go back to Moby Dick.
So here we sit with a game that really isn't bad, it just isn't good enough to keep you playing.
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They even altered models to try placate SJW and that got them even more hate.
No, it's not a more in-depth WoW or WoW 2.0. It's just bad and doesn't hold a candle to WoW, if it did you wouldn't be asking "why is it dead?" If it did, it would have a good sized player base.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
also all the best gear is locked behind 20man raids that you need to revolve your life around to stand any chance of geting the uber weapons
are you single with no kids ? then this might just be the game for you.
ohh just to let you know i am all up for spending time in a mmo, im just not spending every night in the same raid.
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I self identify as a monkey.
also setting and characters feels retarded
Theme Park MMO these day have to be something special to hold peoples attention and WS was not.
If the combat or pvp or something was amazing, I could overlook these things. But they aren't imo.
The style choice is especially bizarre when you consider the game was launched as being for hardcore raiders. Why would any hardcore raider want to be called a cupcake?
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I just never cared about Wildstars world or the npc's in Wildstar or my own character. It lacked immersion i guess. I dont think it was a bad game, i just never got to the point where i cared.
It's still a pretty good game, and I would definitely say give it a shot.
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And don't think SWTOR had an easy ride. Those yahoos almost broke their game as well, but they managed to pull it out of a crash dive. But then SWTOR has a great IP, movies that reignite interest and a demonstrably unique approach for an MMO which Bioware has finally figured out how to make work.
Also, don't be too dismissive of the combat style as a negative. When almost all of us live by the computer these days, having any kind of hand, wrist, arm or shoulder injury is very, very bad news. Repetitive strain injuries (the oft mis-named carpal tunnel syndrome) for those afflicted most definitely impacts the games you play.
I don't care what game you ask about on these forums, you will hear a bunch of different reasons why someone didn't like it. Hell, millions of people have complained about WOW for years, yet millions still played it. WOW, EQ 2, EVE, GW2, SWTOR, DDO, TSW, FFXIV, etc, etc. All have plenty of things wrong with them, but still find a way to keep some sort of player base because of a hook.
WS threw a ton of hooks at us. Sci-fi, cartoon graphics (yeah, some liked it), action combat, hardcore to the max, the list goes on and on. It didn't do anything better enough to keep people playing (that is a grammatical nightmare right there, but you know what I mean). It left too many people saying, "Such and such was ok about it, but it wasn't better than Game X."
Take a favorite book for example. We'll use Moby Dick. Many people who like it could read it over and over. Then comes along Mabi Rick. Same exact story, maybe even written a little bit, but not a lot, better. You may read it and go, "Meh, worth my time, but I will never read it again. I would rather ready Moby Dick." And you go back to Moby Dick.
So here we sit with a game that really isn't bad, it just isn't good enough to keep you playing.