I wondered that too, why would anyone play a game they're not happy with? Why waste your time doing something you're not enjoying. I thought that was an odd poll option, but apparently a fairly popular one.
I ask my self that question all the time when I see people talking about playing mmos to catch up with people's progression.
I play to enjoy the universe my character is in, the story that is taking place in that world and around my character, the adventures i can go on with (alone or with friends/strangers), etc. Once i start feeling these things are missing, i quit. I dont care about progression, catching up with anybody on gear, or climbing a pvp leaderboard. The game is supposed to be fun, not a second job.
I play these games but sometimes you find out to much about the game and it just kills it. I refuse to allow myself to conform to these cash machines. Recently I had been playing and praising ESO, I got to Cryodil which I rarely do, there spots on the map that I am not allowed to enter unless I am subbed. I was like jeez oh man I can't play anything without some kind of "pay here now" always showing up. I don't mind paying for games, but I don't want the omnipresnce of paying always rearing it's head. The games have a hard enough time keeping my attention, they can't afford to have more of things I dont like.
Basically I am not motivated to play ESO after seeing that, other games do it too.
@nariusseldon, please don't lie to yourself. If you had a choice between a fully open, virtual world MMORPG where you can see players shape it with their actions, creativity with things like player built houses and other structures, crafting, trading, questing, exploring, PvP/PvE etc....or a game like pong or tetris that could still be fun...I already know what would you choose.
i would choose pong, you know why? because if other players could shape the world im playing in (as good as that may sound) i will rage quit when the trolls ruin my experience 24/7 "shaping" the world.
I love the idea of player making decisions that permanently impact the game world, but in reality, its an mmo full with players, i can only see that happening in an instanced personal story, or a single player game. Unless trolling becomes a permanent bannable offense, i dont take part in "player actions change the world for everyone else" in mmos.
Im following a story here, if you want to kill everyone i am trying to save, i have no point in playing the same game you are in.
@nariusseldon, please don't lie to yourself. If you had a choice between a fully open, virtual world MMORPG where you can see players shape it with their actions, creativity with things like player built houses and other structures, crafting, trading, questing, exploring, PvP/PvE etc....or a game like pong or tetris that could still be fun...I already know what would you choose.
hmm ... may be not a game like pong or tetris ... but certainly a game like D3.
You mean you think i would waste time chatting with others, or walking around, rather than enjoying fun solo combat, and the meta of exploring builds? I highly doubt you know what i prefer better than me.
That is actually very funny. Or sad .. that you will actually think everyone like what you like, and if they say otherwise, they are lying. But hey, it is your freedom to be delusional.
@nariusseldon, please don't lie to yourself. If you had a choice between a fully open, virtual world MMORPG where you can see players shape it with their actions, creativity with things like player built houses and other structures, crafting, trading, questing, exploring, PvP/PvE etc....or a game like pong or tetris that could still be fun...I already know what would you choose.
hmm ... may be not a game like pong or tetris ... but certainly a game like D3.
You mean you think i would waste time chatting with others, or walking around, rather than enjoying fun solo combat, and the meta of exploring builds? I highly doubt you know what i prefer better than me.
That is actually very funny. Or sad .. that you will actually think everyone like what you like, and if they say otherwise, they are lying. But hey, it is your freedom to be delusional.
Again, you are lying to yourself. Virtual worlds first must exist for those same games to be created in as you speak that you are so fond of. Only in virtual worlds players have enough freedom and space for creativity to have a truly unique experience for themselves, something you won't find in these "games" you speak of.
@nariusseldon, please don't lie to yourself. If you had a choice between a fully open, virtual world MMORPG where you can see players shape it with their actions, creativity with things like player built houses and other structures, crafting, trading, questing, exploring, PvP/PvE etc....or a game like pong or tetris that could still be fun...I already know what would you choose.
hmm ... may be not a game like pong or tetris ... but certainly a game like D3.
You mean you think i would waste time chatting with others, or walking around, rather than enjoying fun solo combat, and the meta of exploring builds? I highly doubt you know what i prefer better than me.
That is actually very funny. Or sad .. that you will actually think everyone like what you like, and if they say otherwise, they are lying. But hey, it is your freedom to be delusional.
Again, you are lying to yourself. Virtual worlds first must exist for those same games to be created in as you speak that you are so fond of. Only in virtual worlds players have enough freedom and space for creativity to have a truly unique experience for themselves, something you won't find in these "games" you speak of.
So first you proceed to inform him about what his tastes are in video games while dismissing his actual opinion and tastes outright. Then, you tell him that he's essentially in denial and 'lying to himself' about what he would prefer in the choice you presented.
How sanctimonious and pretentious can you get? Who the hell are you to tell him or anybody what their actual taste in games is? What's next? Are you going to start telling people that they actually don't like the television shows they watch, that they really like the same ones you do but are 'lying to themselves' about it?
The fact you can't even comprehend the idea that somebody would like something you don't pretty much says you're the one in denial. So piss off.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
So first you proceed to inform him about what his tastes are in video games while dismissing his actual opinion and tastes outright. Then, you tell him that he's essentially in denial and 'lying to himself' about what he would prefer in the choice you presented.
How sanctimonious and pretentious can you get? Who the hell are you to tell him or anybody what their actual taste in games is? What's next? Are you going to start telling people that they actually don't like the television shows they watch, that they really like the same ones you do but are 'lying to themselves' about it?
The fact you can't even comprehend the idea that somebody would like something you don't pretty much says you're the one in denial. So piss off.
yeh .. some people here are delusional .. and think that everyone else should be like them.
I wonder how he explains how D3 sold 30M copies, LoL making more money than WoW, and simple iOS games making millions when many of those games have no virtual world. All those millions and millions of gamers must be in denial and lying to themselves. May be it is mass hypnotism ... this is actually very funny.
I honestly can't find a game to play I already exhausted all the WoW content, FF 14 has no world pvp so nope, blade and soul had some fun pvp but not much else, ESO has decent combat but again no world pvp, tera is boring, dcuo I beat and never went back to, refuse to play any instanced games, eve online is scifi and I only play fantasy, archeage was ok but I've been told it turns pay to win eventually, SWTOR is practically single-player game, I might try darkfall but I really hate death penalties because they prevent your from actually exploring. Mortal Online looks good but my computer can't run it. I really want to play ARK but my comp can't run it. So yeah just been going on facebook...
Not really, i just went back to ESO and went to it on PS4 this time. And its still a mess and especially with the CP in the lower PVP campaigns. A new player doesnt stand a chance with some of the players that are using CP from their other characters to make there level 15 characters powerful. Think its the dumbest concept ever that playing your max level character can make your level 10 character way stronger.
No, I'm not happy at all. I'm so impossibly miserable. I can't even begin to describe how much I loathe playing the game I'm playing. The only thing to do is post about it, and then continue to post about what a terrible game it is months after I've stopped playing.
been playing lots of eve online the past 2 years but currently taking a short break, would like to find something else to play with a lot of player driven group content.
sadly most mmos that promise something resembling group content, also wall it behind 10-40 hours of single player quest hubs, i would rather choke to death on my mouse than do that anymore after so many years of wow
warframe scratched that itch for a time last year, its at least fun to group up with friends, but eventually the lack of difficulty started to bother me and i dropped it.
None of these MMORPG's are built for long term appeal. I'm looking for long term.
It's a video game, not a marriage.
No but like a marriage you can either look for something with quality that is worth the additional time you want to spend with it... or after a night of fun realize over Denny's breakfast they have nothing to offer past awkward small talk.
I've not played a MMORPG coming up to about 5 years now. I've moved to MMOFPS genre full time for my MMO fix. I prefer to play a great single player RPG instead these days, then go online for some sandbox MMO FPSing in Planetside 2 since 2012. There's a wealth of great single player games these days, once people get over their online gaming honeymoon they soon return to a good single player.
None of these MMORPG's are built for long term appeal. I'm looking for long term.
It's a video game, not a marriage.
No but like a marriage you can either look for something with quality that is worth the additional time you want to spend with it... or after a night of fun realize over Denny's breakfast they have nothing to offer past awkward small talk.
Even if they have something to offer, no one says i cannot lead all of them on ... and do whatever is fun at the moment.
We are talking about games, not marriage, again. There is no bad repercussions if i drop a game, and pick it up later, unlike a wife, or even a gf. And monogamy in games is just ... silly .. because i have zero obligations to entertainment products, unlike to my wife & family.
Last mmorpg I played was blade and soul, and I dropped it later that day, its just the same generic wow-clone BS like every other mmorpg, good for the short term, but it has no long term appeal so I can't be bothered with it, the char designs are also weird as hell and the combat while they say its action combat really isin't, its just the tab targeting auto locks on insted of having to do it manually. If it was real action combat ranged shots wouldn't home in on the target. Except maybe a few like Tera's archer has a locking homing shot. But it only has 1. or was it 2? I don't remember, BnS is bascally a shittier version of Tera.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Been playing a lot of Project: Gorgon. It's been a huge relief to play an actual MMORPG that goes back to what they started out to be. While most people don't seem to comprehend this, the game looks fantastic, but it is still in alpha and I'm very surprised they are letting people play for as long as they have. My account is three years old and it's gone from a pixelated wasteland to quite an impressive indy game.
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Waiting for Black Desert.
I ask my self that question all the time when I see people talking about playing mmos to catch up with people's progression.
I play to enjoy the universe my character is in, the story that is taking place in that world and around my character, the adventures i can go on with (alone or with friends/strangers), etc. Once i start feeling these things are missing, i quit. I dont care about progression, catching up with anybody on gear, or climbing a pvp leaderboard. The game is supposed to be fun, not a second job.
Basically I am not motivated to play ESO after seeing that, other games do it too.
I love the idea of player making decisions that permanently impact the game world, but in reality, its an mmo full with players, i can only see that happening in an instanced personal story, or a single player game. Unless trolling becomes a permanent bannable offense, i dont take part in "player actions change the world for everyone else" in mmos.
Im following a story here, if you want to kill everyone i am trying to save, i have no point in playing the same game you are in.
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You mean you think i would waste time chatting with others, or walking around, rather than enjoying fun solo combat, and the meta of exploring builds? I highly doubt you know what i prefer better than me.
That is actually very funny. Or sad .. that you will actually think everyone like what you like, and if they say otherwise, they are lying. But hey, it is your freedom to be delusional.
The game is Dragon's Dogma.
You can connect it to the internet and other people play it too.
According to this site that usually qualifies as a mmorpg.
How sanctimonious and pretentious can you get? Who the hell are you to tell him or anybody what their actual taste in games is? What's next? Are you going to start telling people that they actually don't like the television shows they watch, that they really like the same ones you do but are 'lying to themselves' about it?
The fact you can't even comprehend the idea that somebody would like something you don't pretty much says you're the one in denial. So piss off.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
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So much to do and not enough hours in the day to get to it all. I guess I'm the opposite of the doom and gloom crowd.
I wonder how he explains how D3 sold 30M copies, LoL making more money than WoW, and simple iOS games making millions when many of those games have no virtual world. All those millions and millions of gamers must be in denial and lying to themselves. May be it is mass hypnotism ... this is actually very funny.
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Coop rpgs are where it is at for me lately. Mmos are just seen as ways to get more money than an initial price, nothing more than that.
holding out hope for Camelot unchained. Dev seems real.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
None of these MMORPG's are built for long term appeal. I'm looking for long term.
sadly most mmos that promise something resembling group content, also wall it behind 10-40 hours of single player quest hubs, i would rather choke to death on my mouse than do that anymore after so many years of wow
warframe scratched that itch for a time last year, its at least fun to group up with friends, but eventually the lack of difficulty started to bother me and i dropped it.
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No but like a marriage you can either look for something with quality that is worth the additional time you want to spend with it... or after a night of fun realize over Denny's breakfast they have nothing to offer past awkward small talk.
We are talking about games, not marriage, again. There is no bad repercussions if i drop a game, and pick it up later, unlike a wife, or even a gf. And monogamy in games is just ... silly .. because i have zero obligations to entertainment products, unlike to my wife & family.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!