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Free Speech Denied, SC moving to become a 1984 universe?
VorpalChicken28
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Ok first a link...
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2016/01/star-citizen-backers-can-be-perma-banned-for-off-site-activity/
It would seem that you can no longer criticize Star Citizen, without facing the chance of being banned.
As a long time supporter of SC (and backer) I find this more than slightly worrying, while I find that the notion of free speech can be overused sometimes, don't we as users/backers/supporters have a right to say something negative about SC without getting banned?
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2016/01/star-citizen-backers-can-be-perma-banned-for-off-site-activity/
It would seem that you can no longer criticize Star Citizen, without facing the chance of being banned.
As a long time supporter of SC (and backer) I find this more than slightly worrying, while I find that the notion of free speech can be overused sometimes, don't we as users/backers/supporters have a right to say something negative about SC without getting banned?
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The fact that they're this in the weeds is indeed ridiculous but why make it easy for them to be petty?
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Not saying what they do is necessarily right but the internet is not a magic place where all responsibility goes away. If you strive to be a nice and balanced person i have a hard time seeing them banning you for critizeing them. Thing is... The people who get all twisted about this are the same people who get bent out of shape about "PK" when in reality they are angry for not being able to be arseholes.
Also there is a fair bit between what CI does and a Orwellian dystopia... Just saying.
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They can't take criticism or negativity, they refuse to be held accountable for the money they've been given, and they often resort to character assassination and libel to shout down detractors. If you don't see the red flags at this point, then you're color blind. Even the usual cheerleaders for the game have been fairly silent lately.
On the positive side, this game has provided quite a bit of entertainment, especially for one which I haven't paid for and isn't anywhere close to release.
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I have never seen anyone banned for constructive criticism on any forum. It's often not what you say, but how you say it that makes the difference.
I have seen plenty of people banned for exercising their "right of free speech", which on the internet apparently includes filthy language, threats, slander, incitement to riot and a raft of other unsavoury things that would result in far worse than a "forum ban" in real life.
People are very brave on the anonymous internet.
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Anyway... this is still not related to free speech.
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I'm just going wait for the outrage now of someone who's dropped several hundred bucks on that game, getting banned for running his mouth on some other site. It'll be priceless. xD
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I'm sure they are aware of the huge influence and impact the Goons have had on EVE and it would not surprise me if there was a definitive anti Goon strategy in place.
Associate with Goons, expect to be banned is the message I got, and I can't say I blame them for trying to prevent their sort of "emergent" game play from being brought to SC.
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I've been banned from multiple official game forums for telling it like it is and the moderators paid by the company that runs the game want to silence you but I completely understand why they do it. This is pretty obvious isn't it?
They own the forum, why should they let you trash talk their companies product on their forum? Just paying money doesn't let you hate on a game on their property.
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Priceless .... Beer4TheBeerGod, a member of the SomethingAweful.com community (yes, they who IMHO wrote the manual on being toxic and are proud of it) calling the SC community "toxic" ..... ROFL .... Good riddance, Goonie ! Just because he sends some honey-worded mails to SC customer support does not negate his usual rants (of which you can find an example in another thread on this subforum (page 2, "Actual retrospective of ....").
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1. Sit back and wait
2. ................
Yeah, I think that about covers it.
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The title is severely misleading and I think I'm going to report it. He was banned from using forums and that's all. He wasn't banned from the game itself. I can agree or disagree with what they did but if he really was becoming extremely toxic outside of their forums it was wise to ban him from doing the same on their own forums as a preventative measure.
I'm talking about the title of the article not the OP's title.
So it's OK to insult and slander someone in public, as long as you don't do it to their face ?
What does it matter where the trashtalk is posted ? The relevant fact is that it was posted in a place where everyone could see it.
You can't be a quiet and respectful group member when you're in the company of the group, and then badmouth them when you're out of earshot. They will find out sooner or later, and then you have to face the consequences.
The internet is not some special place where common social rules do not apply, lol.
The guy also was banned for what he did on the RSI forums not the SA forums. From what I read he started posting there AFTER he was banned on the RSI forums.
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He was banned for his rants on the RSI forums. For the third official offense (he whines about him being allowed to have five opportunities to post shit before he should be permabanned). He posted a lot more rants than those three ... or five.
He posted on reddit/SC or somethingawful.com well before he was banned on the RSI forum. The reddit rant post I linked was over a year ago. On somethingawful .. many more years (2008 or earlier, usually about EVE Online).
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