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Steam and the Rise of F2P RPGs - The RPG Files at MMORPG.com
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Steam and the Rise of F2P RPGs - The RPG Files at MMORPG.com
Over the last year, Steam has begun recommending free to play RPGs to our intrepid RPG columnist. He decided to take them on and investigate exactly whether these “free to play” RPGs were worth your time. Click through to see what he found! Plus Marvel Heroes gets a new endgame mode, Elite: Dangerous gets planetary exploration, Diablo 3 takes on a new form of narrative, and more!
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i got hit hard by the reality by this game and this game will probably make me keep ALOT of money from now : http://store.steampowered.com/app/416760/
The bit about Destiny has me happy I jumped off that money-milking train early. I'm quite disappointed how that title turned out. Bungie can do much better.
Blizzard of all companies has managed to pull off the only microshop I can accept. World of Warcraft has so many elements in the game that the items in the shop really are very minor. Half the items I think were tied to some charity give away as well. Most games though .... That shop is in your face and you know the Jones's when you see them, it takes away from in game accomplishment.
Say it with me – even if you never make a single [sic] microtransactions, its presence in the game is never optional. -AMEN
Blizzard of all companies has managed to pull off the only microshop I can accept. World of Warcraft has so many elements in the game that the items in the shop really are very minor. Half the items I think were tied to some charity give away as well. Most games though .... That shop is in your face and you know the Jones's when you see them, it takes away from in game accomplishment.
Honestly that remains to be seen as Blizzard is still a sub game that now sells gold (wow coin) for cash. I agree the cash shop is nothing in WoW but if it went pure f2p? I think we might see a different beast altogether...
You can filter from the drop down .. F2p .. then single player /coop/mulit/ mmo ..
there isnt alot tho ..
I do think the free to play bubble will burst though and in the coming couple of years many games will no longer be profitable and close down .
I really don't have any problems with free to play myself as long as its not heavily pay to win . When a game is announced as going free to play I usually buy the game cheaply because of all the extras you get when it converts . I did this with Wildstar for a pound this year and even Star Wars the Old Republic is more playable for me because of this because I have more action bars than those that didn't .
Speaking for myself ( and probably partly because I brought the games first ) I have never used a cash shop apart from once in Rift ( with Gems I had from a subscription ) when I brought a squirrel mount ( it had to be done its so bloody cute )
I don't get how the F2P crapware is worse than the B2P crapware or worse than the DLC crapware or the subscription crapware. The others you have to ask for a refund if you don't like, if it qualifies.
you can google each model so you will understand ( maybe ) how they are all not the same
Can someone give an example of a F2P (Non MMO) on Steam. I couldn't find them, even after looking.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/223710/
Torval said:
I don't get how the F2P crapware is worse than the B2P crapware or worse than the DLC crapware or the subscription crapware. The others you have to ask for a refund if you don't like, if it qualifies.
you can google each model so you will understand ( maybe ) how they are all not the same
You didn't understand his statement. they're all crap is what hes saying. Which i agree with him.
Can someone give an example of a F2P (Non MMO) on Steam. I couldn't find them, even after looking.
A couple of (Japanese) visual novels are F2P. Also there is a RPG-mager adventure that is fully F2P and an side-scroller aRPG that is F2P. I'll edit this post later on to add the links ;-)
Eternal Senia is the aRPG which has 98% positive of over 3K reviews
Visual novels:
Carpe Diem
Everlasting Summer
Invisible Apartment
...and more - I think with these you can find the other F2P visual novels as well. Can't find that F2P RPG-maker thing through. Perhaps you should use 'RPG maker' as keywords in Steam to find it?
[EDIT] The reply function from the news topics is extremely bad - no formatting and no visible quote area
"Say it with me – even if you never make a single [sic] microtransactions, its presence in the game is never optional. -AMEN
Blizzard of all companies has managed to pull off the only microshop I can accept. World of Warcraft has so many elements in the game that the items in the shop really are very minor. Half the items I think were tied to some charity give away as well. Most games though .... That shop is in your face and you know the Jones's when you see them, it takes away from in game accomplishment."
And that is possible only if you are as big as blizzard, EA, and Square Enix. Normal sized game developers/studios are not capable of making money on the "pay $40 once and never pay another dime ever models."
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
Superman0X said:
Can someone give an example of a F2P (Non MMO) on Steam. I couldn't find them, even after looking.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/223710/
Thanx for the reference. I never even knew that these games exist. Interesting.
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Even though im not playing them at the moment, i love Marvel Heroes and Warframe. Those are the only F2P games im OK supporting monetarily (obviously not paying now since im not playing). However, i still believe F2P is a plague that should be eradicated. I used to support it a long time ago, but it just keep getting worse and worse and spreading everywhere.
I totally agree with the OP's quote from Jim Sterling as well.
It is convenient for me and if you are patient you will find deals.The problem is are they even deals per say?
You are getting a digital download not a box copy and no support for your game from Steam.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
And the search function is quite horrible, what with the amount of games they offer. Plus, whenever I see a site/whatever that utilises 50% of the screen space = omg, you could do so much better than this. Still, it's handy to have all the games in one place... but they do have room for improvement.
While I can't assume F2P is the sole cause, if it's a cause at all, there doesn't seem to be any credible discussion in any of the gaming press about the part it has had in the continuing fall from grace of this genre.
All I see generally is the continued positive promotion of it in the gaming press, even as MMORPG dedicated websites get ready to jump ship by expanding their coverage to other genres.
It just seems that they are championing a rev model that might well be killing the genre, while making ready to leave that genre as a smoking heap of rubble.
Yeah, the sales are genuine great deals I think. I don't care about having the newest games to hit the shelves, I'm in no race with anyone, so waiting a while and paying a fraction of the price is great for me.
The ownership thing though...
The data is all I want generally and Steam sales are cheap enough to not make me care about having another game case collecting dust on my shelf.
I'd just be careful with the games I buy. For instance: I got both Witcher 3 and Dying Light for a total of $50 combined through Steam sales. That's just a good buy. Valve isn't going anywhere, and neither is CD Projekt or Techland. I feel confident those products will be supported satisfactorily for the reasonable and foreseeable future.
Some of the more indie, early access type projects though.... Gotta do your research.
i am against abusive microtransactions specially in AAA single-player focused games, even optional ones, but some of them are indeed optional. here is an example: every AAA Assassin's Creed game usually takes around nearly 15-20 hours to finish. Syndicate for example has Microtransaction, but whether you use it or not, you are still gonna end the game in nearly 20 hours with nearly best items just like other AC games. so the core gametime hasn't changed.
these optional ones are unwelcome regardless specially since they have the potential to be more dangerous in the future and that's what makes many worried...
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
thank you ^^