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Hrimnir
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I'm playing way too much Dota 2 and SC2... Seriously. I don't WANT to play them, they're just the only thing thats even in the realm of worth playing right now that is multiplayer.
COME ON BRAD. Get to crackin man. We're dyin here, dyin...
COME ON BRAD. Get to crackin man. We're dyin here, dyin...
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Me Too !...... We already know will finally get a REAL mmo. But we need it to be well built and full too.
If so, this will blow World of Warcraft away. A WoW killer
We also want this game to be done properly, so while we are working hard we will not rush just for the sake of it, lessons learned and all that...
This will not be a WoW killer either and it is not intended to be a WoW killer, we are realistic about our target audience and think we will do quite well, but the game is not designed to attract the type of numbers WoW has subscribed and that is ok with us
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Sorry about the WoW killer comment, I just get excited like that !
Anyway, take your time as needed
This is all I can think of off the top of my head. Opinions will vary on them, but I think all attempt to achieve what has been lost over the years in the industry. Divinity: Original sin is quite enjoyable and can be played with a friend Co-op. If you loved fallout 1/2, then you will also love Underail. Anyway, enjoy!
Underail ( A fallout spiritual successor.)
http://www.gog.com/game/underrail
Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition (modeled after Ultima 7 in design and function, but with a very unique turn based combat system that flows very well).
http://www.gog.com/game/divinity_original_sin_enhanced_edition
Age of Decadence: (Very strong story and consequence driven with difficult turn based combat systems)
http://www.gog.com/game/the_age_of_decadence
Serpent in the Staglands: (Retro pixle based graphics, similar to Darklands play and focus)
https://www.gog.com/game/serpent_in_the_staglands
Wasteland 2: (successor to the original Wasteland game from Brian Fargo, turn based)
https://www.gog.com/game/wasteland_2_directors_cut_digital_classic_edition
Pillars of Eternity: (in the vein of Baldurs Gate in style and combat).
https://www.gog.com/game/pillars_of_eternity_hero_edition
Legend of Grimrock 2: (3d Blobber, real time, in the vein of Eye of the Beholder, and similar)
https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_grimrock_2
Shadowrun Dragonfall (isometric, turn based, good story and enjoyable combat).
https://www.gog.com/game/shadowrun_dragonfall_directors_cut
Lords Of Xulima (isometric exploration, traditional first person party combat. Challenging play)
https://www.gog.com/game/lords_of_xulima_deluxe_edition
Neo Scavanger: (surivial management game with map based exploration and text based encounters)
https://www.gog.com/game/neo_scavenger
Blackguards: (story and combat transition based progression, ie one combat scenario to the next, no open exploration, good solid challenging turn based play, created from the Darkeye universe).
https://www.gog.com/game/blackguards_special_edition
Might and Magic X: (models the original series turn based system, looks good, exploration, challenging combat)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/238750/
I don't even know what to say anymore.
I mean, I'd have thought we were way beyond that one by now.
I don't know if it is better though to have a void out there though vs having the mainstream behemoth.
As for Wow killer, don't be daft. The closest thing we seen to a Wow killer so far is WoW: WoD which done a better work at it then anything else. Pantheon is targetting a different crowd then Wow and will not have any impact on Wows number no matter how great it will be.
Only Blizzard can kill Wow, be that with another MMO or a really crappy Wow expansion.
I moved away from my Atari 2600 and 5200 to the PC, specifically for the turn based RPGs like the Dungeons and Dragons Gold box series, Wizardry, Ultima series, Zork, Might and Magic, Heroes of Might and Magic.....etc.
Unfortunately, over time there has been a dramatic crossing of the lines between consoles and the PC where it comes to game design and I find it utterly disgusting that many of the things that made the PC so distinctive over consoles in regards to game design are now being abandoned whole sale to compete for the console gamer's attention. The PC isn't dying, the PC gamer is.
Games like Age of Decadence and Underail are made by gamers who want to play a game, not be praised for processing oxygen and they are showing how a single person (or small team) is able to produce quality design and content without the pocket book and mass teams of a AAA studio (Larrian built Divinity: Original Sin with a small team and on a 4-5 million dollar budget without compromising quality or content).
AAA studios are moving off to the next fad market though (chasing mobile games), but there is still some concern as those idiots are trying to push mobile games into the PC market like they did with consoles. I don't think we have to worry too much though, like I said, developers are becoming more independent, able to produce without the big budgets. Just like the music industry, the AAA companies are going to find out that their services are no longer needed and they will eventually fade away.
I thought it was pretty obvious that my original post was tongue in cheek.
Obviously I want them to do the game right, and whatever time it takes, it takes.
But yeah, the whole WoW killer thing someone said was getting a bit overboard.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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While I agree with the first part of your post, I totally disagree with the last part. I really don't think people are growing tired of the hand holding, if anything I think its getting more popular as evidenced by how popular these easy mode games are and such.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Also to note, I wasn't excusing the complete compromise on everything that was the MMORPG for the sake of money, just stating that they did well from a business standpoint and wouldn't have likely done better without catering to the lowest common denominator.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
One heck of a list there and while waiting for Pantheon I have 90% of these games.The standouts for me are DoS and Lords of Xulima.Both outstanding games.Yet to start playing Age of Decadence and Serpent games.Oh and Blackguards.Completed both of those games.