EverQuest - The Planes of Hate and Fear Return in The Broken Mirror

SBFord · October 2015

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The Broken Mirror, the 22nd (!) expansion for the original EverQuest, will launch on Wednesday, November 18. The Daybreak developers recently demoed the expansion during a livestream event, and we’re recapping it all for those who missed it.

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DMKano · October 2015

22 expansions later - the classic progression servers are still the most popular - and on those servers these new expansions don't even matter. truth be told is I'd probably be playing this if SoE didn't remove the ability to buy expansions with SoE cash, as I used to keep my sub going and then buy expansions with accrued credits. but years ago they took that away so on top of subscription you had to buy the expansion... that's when I quit and never went back.

Golelorn · October 2015

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

DMKano · October 2015

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Dreamo84 · October 2015

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

Utinni · October 2015

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

I 3 box and only pay $15 a month. Willing to bet he had a similar situation.

nimander99 · October 2015

Box? Time for a model and gfx upgrade, every other classic mmo has done it. I'd come back and play if they did...

Dreamo84 · October 2015

nimander99 said:

Box? Time for a model and gfx upgrade, every other classic mmo has done it. I'd come back and play if they did...

They have upgraded already. Years ago

Dampiel_sz · October 2015

Dreamo84 said:

nimander99 said:

Box? Time for a model and gfx upgrade, every other classic mmo has done it. I'd come back and play if they did...

They have upgraded already. Years ago

Shadows of Luclin expansion LOL

AwDiddums · November 2015

Dreamo84 said:

nimander99 said:

Box? Time for a model and gfx upgrade, every other classic mmo has done it. I'd come back and play if they did...

They have upgraded already. Years ago

The mobs have been greatly upgraded graphics wise, but the world itself is still Minecraft, give the world some serious love, not just a touch up via various expansions, a serious graphical upgrade. As for boxing being the only way forward, a symptom of not enough players able/willing to group, ppl preferring to solo due to time issues, programs making it easier to box and much more viable. Personally I see no point in playing any MMO while boxing, if I want to be top dog, if I want to go places or see things that are the pinnacle of a game I go and play such games as The Witcher series or similar, but it's the boxers cash it's up to them how they spend it and their time.

Thebeasttt · November 2015

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Dumbest thing you've ever said. It's meant to have a $240 expansion buy in for six accounts? gtfo

carotid · November 2015

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

I think you've lost your mind. That's absurd.

DMKano · November 2015

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

3 paid - 3 free

It never struck me as odd - no I've had multiple accounts in EQ1 since 2001, same with DAoC etc..

I actually can't think of a game in the last 10 years I played where I didn't have at least 2 accounts.

But I haven't played EQ1 since they made it to where expansions couldn't be bought with station cash.

Switched to Project 1999 years ago

DMKano · November 2015

carotid said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

I think you've lost your mind. That's absurd.

That's one full group - not absurd at all - I know quite a few folks who boxed more than me (12 accounts and up)

But none of that is absurd compared to this:

http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/

DMKano · November 2015

Thebeasttt said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Dumbest thing you've ever said. It's meant to have a $240 expansion buy in for six accounts? gtfo

Which is why I stopped playing EQ1 years ago when SoE killed expansions being able to be bought with station cash, now you HAVE to buy an expansion for real money.

Before I had 3 accounts that were subbed and each one was getting monthly cash accruals - so I would buy expansions with station cash , but then they changed it to where it couldn't be done.

That's when I stopped playing and moved to Project 1999

Go log into EQ1 today - talk to active players - you'll see that boxing is pretty much the NORM - almost everyone boxes at least 2-3 accounts.

Dreamo84 · November 2015

Even if everyone does it, still seems insane. Especially when the advantage is getting to play by yourself. And in an older game like EQ with decidedly boring combat, what fun are you getting out of it? and Anyone else find it ironic that he's mad about having to buy expansions and pay a sub when that was originally the only way you could even play EQ?

Vorthanion · November 2015

DMKano said:

Thebeasttt said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Dumbest thing you've ever said. It's meant to have a $240 expansion buy in for six accounts? gtfo

Which is why I stopped playing EQ1 years ago when SoE killed expansions being able to be bought with station cash, now you HAVE to buy an expansion for real money.

Before I had 3 accounts that were subbed and each one was getting monthly cash accruals - so I would buy expansions with station cash , but then they changed it to where it couldn't be done.

That's when I stopped playing and moved to Project 1999

Go log into EQ1 today - talk to active players - you'll see that boxing is pretty much the NORM - almost everyone boxes at least 2-3 accounts.

You can also listen to people bitch about it on general chat every day. Hence the new server coming up with no boxing allowed by December and people I've talked to on Lockjaw are very, very excited about it as it also gets discussed daily on general chat.

Markn · November 2015

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

I have 15 accounts and pay nothing the plat you earn from loot you buy kronos with gives you 30 days each. If you could buy an expansion with kronos I would pay nothing to play. Haven't paid a sub price since kronos were put into the game.

Kiyoris · November 2015

DMKano said:

22 expansions later - the classic progression servers are still the most popular - and on those servers these new expansions don't even matter.

This isn't true at all, blue servers far outnumber classic servers. There are 14 blue servers and only 2 classic servers.

Pratt2112 · November 2015

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

Welcome to the modern world of Massively Single Player Online Games, where people want to play among others (so they can show off), but not with other people.

Yep. We live in a time where boxing multiple accounts to play by one's self is preferable to actually playing with others.

And yet some will tell you this genre hasn't fallen greatly from what it once was.

DMKano · November 2015

Kiyoris said:

DMKano said:

22 expansions later - the classic progression servers are still the most popular - and on those servers these new expansions don't even matter.
This isn't true at all, blue servers far outnumber classic servers. There are 14 blue servers and only 2 classic servers.

That's true too - read what I said though, it's also true.

We are talking about 2 different things.

DMKano · November 2015

Pratt2112 said:

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

Welcome to the modern world of Massively Single Player Online Games, where people want to play among others (so they can show off), but not with other people.
Yep. We live in a time where boxing multiple accounts to play by one's self is preferable to actually playing with others.

And yet some will tell you this genre hasn't fallen greatly from what it once was.

I play other games socially - like ArcheAge i play in an active guild.

EQ1 is so easy to box it's not even funny, it's begging to be boxed from low memory footprint to easy combat etc.....

But boxing in EQ1 is just awesome, because it works so well.

DMKano · November 2015

Markn said:

Dreamo84 said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Spending $90 a month to play one MMO all by yourself. That never struck you as... Odd?

I have 15 accounts and pay nothing the plat you earn from loot you buy kronos with gives you 30 days each. If you could buy an expansion with kronos I would pay nothing to play. Haven't paid a sub price since kronos were put into the game.

Nice, some people just don't get how ideal EQ1 is for boxing.

GeezerGamer · November 2015

Thebeasttt said:

DMKano said:

Golelorn said:

I quit when it became apparent EQ is nothing but a boxer haven. I don't mean 2 accounts, I mean 4+, and there are some extreme examples of people boxxing 18+ accounts. Pointless trying to play with just one account.

6 accounts here - and yes I boxed, because that was the target audience. EQ1 is meant to be boxed nowdays - that's the whole point.

Dumbest thing you've ever said. It's meant to have a $240 expansion buy in for six accounts? gtfo

For real? Are you that Naive?

That's exactly what these games target. SOE learned that trick years prior. SWG was designed to be multiboxed with 1 character limit per galaxy per account. Everyone did it. It was expected. This is the exact reason I quit Anarchy Online. As the population began to decline, Funcom shifted it's development strategy towards remonetizing (exploiting?) the current loyal player base. It was almost impossible to play the game and experience it fully without at least a 2nd account.

DMKano · November 2015

Dreamo84 said:

Even if everyone does it, still seems insane. Especially when the advantage is getting to play by yourself. And in an older game like EQ with decidedly boring combat, what fun are you getting out of it? and Anyone else find it ironic that he's mad about having to buy expansions and pay a sub when that was originally the only way you could even play EQ?

Again I only boxed in EQ1 - it is insanely fun because it works so well. You have to try for yourself to understand it.

Again have over 10 yearate active on my main account that's how long I subbed.

Buying an expansion while subbed was normal - nonproblem.

SoE introduced All Station Pass many years ago that after EQ1 went F2P includes a monthly stipend of soe station cash.

So I was paying $20 (more than eq1 sub) and getting station cash which could be used to buy expansions which was awesome.

Then they changed it to where it couldn't be done anymore.

I still have like $100 in station cash cards (which you buy for real money at stores) but can't use to buy expansions...

It's the whole giving and then taking it away thing.

If they never allowed station cash to be used for expansions you'd hear zero complaints from me.

Loktofeit · November 2015

Pratt2112 said:
Welcome to the modern world of Massively Single Player Online Games, where people want to play among others...

People have ALWAYS played MMOs this way. It is a pattern of behavior common to many people seeking social interaction on one level or another. You can see it among club goers, bar patrons, youth groups, and anywhere else that allows for passive interaction. Online games, cellphones and other digital channels have opened the door to allow those hesitant to engage or stay engaged to do so. This is because they can control how long it takes to interact and if they want to interact at all.

MMOs allow you to choose your level of engagement with others. Joining others is often assisted by some for of matchmaking or fast travel, and leaving a group is as simple as hitting the Recall button. Forums are no different. Some passively read these forums. It may be for info, or entertainment or just to be part of the group. Others engage. Some engage a LOT. When you are interested in engaging, you enter the conversation. When you're done, you can stop responding or close out the browser. Complete control over the level of engagement. Is there something wrong with someone that jsut reads the forum and doesn't post? Of course not.

But it's also worth noting that just because someone is playing alone in one MMO or one aspect of an MMO, that does not necessarily mean they do not interact in other MMOs or other areas of that MMO. This has a lot to do with the communities and social circles in different areas as well as the type of entertainment or activities there.

If you get a chance, check out Sherry Turkle's book "Alone Together". It explains a lot of how we got to where we are, and the good and bad of it. If can handle mention of World of Warcraft in a positive light (some here can't), then also check out "Alone Together?" by Nick Yee, Nicolas Ducheneaut, and others. The latter a much shorter read and much more MMO-focused.

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