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Are companions overpowerd now?

filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
in Star Wars: The Old Republic
I noticed from lvl 30-46 the companions are overpowered.  This is making the game very easy where as before it was challenging.  I'm even using the servant droid and he's too strong.  Is this happening at all levels of gameplay?
Are you onto something or just on something?
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  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,026
     Curious considering I previously leveled through 30-46 without a companion (minus a very few cut scene events) because the game was too easy. It is a solo friendly game however and all recent changes are geared to increasing this design choice.

    You stay sassy!

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    I wouldn't say they are overpowered, but instead i would say that now you can use any of them that you want, just select the role you want them to carry out, handy really, as you are now no longer limited to just 1 or possibly 2 companions because your either a Tank or DPS spec.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    filmoret said:
    I noticed from lvl 30-46 the companions are overpowered.  This is making the game very easy where as before it was challenging.  I'm even using the servant droid and he's too strong.  Is this happening at all levels of gameplay?
    Lets put it this way when I wrote my (just me? thread/post) i was in the middle of combat not looking at my screen at all, and still had full health when I came back 6-7 mins later ( I read a few other posts in that time as well, haha).

    I don't think it's possible to die now lol companion healing is crazy OP.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • FomaldehydeJimFomaldehydeJim Member UncommonPosts: 673
    edited October 2015
    From memory the game was always easy. Dungeons are a race, a literal race where everyone is killing the mobs at a run before rushing onto the next area. 

    But if they have changed it so that you are not limited to the one ugly-bastard companion that fits your class- or the one you buy from the shop, the drone [edit- it was an ewok]- then that is an improvement. 
    Post edited by FomaldehydeJim on
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    FomaldehydeJim said:
    From memory the game was always too easy. Dungeons are a race, a literal race where everyone is killing the mobs at a run before rushing onto the next area. 

    But if they have changed it so that you are not limited to the one ugly-bastard companion that fits your class- or the one you buy from the shop, the drone- then that is an improvement. 
    It's always been kinda easy, but i would die from time to time fighting silvers and elites. It's a lot easier now, a lot easier, be it elites silvers or a pack comprised of trash and silvers. I feel no danger at all in not completing the encounter.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Old content in games never meet up to the stat/ability/etc changes that come with expansions.  They never go back to balance old stuff cause it is a waste of time in these types of games.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Tamanous said:
     Curious considering I previously leveled through 30-46 without a companion (minus a very few cut scene events) because the game was too easy. It is a solo friendly game however and all recent changes are geared to increasing this design choice.

    Maybe they changed something because about 6 months ago I was having a really hard time on Hoth with a fully geared Character and Companion.  Now its like easy mode turned on.  Maybe you using one of the stronger PVE classes?  I was using powertech and sentinel.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • Jyd111Jyd111 Member UncommonPosts: 27
    Yes they are, I sent one set on dps against 2 golds and he took them both out with hardly a scratch. I have not done the level 60+ missions yet but every thing else I have seen has hurt the game I loved to play more than helped.

    Give me back SWG at sunset and keep adding to it and I would pay twice what it was costing.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited October 2015
    filmoret said:
    Tamanous said:
     Curious considering I previously leveled through 30-46 without a companion (minus a very few cut scene events) because the game was too easy. It is a solo friendly game however and all recent changes are geared to increasing this design choice.

    Maybe they changed something because about 6 months ago I was having a really hard time on Hoth with a fully geared Character and Companion.  Now its like easy mode turned on.  Maybe you using one of the stronger PVE classes?  I was using powertech and sentinel.
    Same here, literally the same lol, as I too was having trouble on hoth up until this change, silvers and golds destroyed my Scoundrel rather quickly on numerous occasions there.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ImpacthoundImpacthound Member UncommonPosts: 367
    Companions are designed to scale better at mid-to high levels now, and only get stronger with Influence. they're less insanely powerful at the 1-10 range that they used to be with Presence bonuses, and more generally powerful across the whole game length. I always felt even in the 1.0 cycle they trivialized a lot of content, I recall taking several Heroic 4 bosses at even level as a healer with a geared tank companion. At one point in the Empire Balmorra droid factory I took the basement droid boss myself at same level, with two players watching that had wiped on it with their two companions(for a total of effectively 4 players). They were annoyed and impressed.
  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,026
    edited October 2015
    Distopia said:
    filmoret said:
    Tamanous said:
     Curious considering I previously leveled through 30-46 without a companion (minus a very few cut scene events) because the game was too easy. It is a solo friendly game however and all recent changes are geared to increasing this design choice.

    Maybe they changed something because about 6 months ago I was having a really hard time on Hoth with a fully geared Character and Companion.  Now its like easy mode turned on.  Maybe you using one of the stronger PVE classes?  I was using powertech and sentinel.
    Same here, literally the same lol, as I too was having trouble on hoth up until this change, silvers and golds destroyed my Scoundrel rather quickly on numerous occasions there.
    Hoth is where I always went to test build setups and rotations. Once I got tactics down to destroy golds I then committed the build and continued playing. Sadly the rest of the game thus became uber-easy mode.

    This becomes most frustrating when I play along side my long time mmo friend. We want to head out and have challenging fights and progression. Swtor ended up not offering us this. ESO was far worse and to the point where I convinced him not to even play it. There was no reason to even pare up as I was killing things solo without effort.

    The humor comes from the fact we are currently playing Champions Online for some short term fun because the Elite level scaling of instances actually makes the game extremely hard at times. With all it's faults and limited end game options it still offers at least instanced game play designed to flatline even the best geared players.

    You stay sassy!

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited October 2015
    Hoth is where I always went to test build setups and rotations. Once I got tactics down to destroy golds I then committed the build and continued playing. Sadly the rest of the game thus became uber-easy mode.

    This becomes most frustrating when I play along side my long time mmo friend. We want to head out and have challenging fights and progression. Swtor ended up not offering us this. ESO was far worse and to the point where I convinced him not to even play it. There was no reason to even pare up as I was killing things solo without effort.

    The humor comes from the fact we are currently playing Champions Online for some short term fun because the Elite level scaling of instances actually makes the game extremely hard at times. With all it's faults and limited end game options it still offers at least instanced game play designed to flatline even the best geared players.
    They work for me simply because my wife is more into stories and questing, she doesn't handle challenge very well. I do like to play with her, we have a lot of fun between MMO's and games like NWN2, Divinty: OS. They're definitely not games I'd recommend for hardcore play sessions. 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • FomaldehydeJimFomaldehydeJim Member UncommonPosts: 673
    Distopia said:
    Hoth is where I always went to test build setups and rotations. Once I got tactics down to destroy golds I then committed the build and continued playing. Sadly the rest of the game thus became uber-easy mode.

    This becomes most frustrating when I play along side my long time mmo friend. We want to head out and have challenging fights and progression. Swtor ended up not offering us this. ESO was far worse and to the point where I convinced him not to even play it. There was no reason to even pare up as I was killing things solo without effort.

    The humor comes from the fact we are currently playing Champions Online for some short term fun because the Elite level scaling of instances actually makes the game extremely hard at times. With all it's faults and limited end game options it still offers at least instanced game play designed to flatline even the best geared players.
    They work for me simply because my wife is more into stories and questing, she doesn't handle challenge very well. I do like to play with her, we have a lot of fun between MMO's and games like NWN2, Divinty: OS. They're definitely not games I'd recommend for hardcore play sessions. 
    Agreed, I played SWTOR for the story, not particularly the combat. I actually quite enjoyed that it wasn't difficult as that was not the reason for me being there. People often act like difficulty is the be-all-and-end-all of MMOs, but SWTOR was designed around a story mode. That said, my main ranged class- can't even remember what it was called now- was fun. In fact I should go back and see what is new.  
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000
    Maybe they plan on doing that buff nerf cycle.  Buff the new content then on down the line, nerf it all to hell.

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  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,026
    edited October 2015
    There does indeed need to be a wide spectrum of games available for all players and play skill. Fun comes in different forms for many. The issue for myself (and mmo buds) is that we enjoy extremely hard content that requires great group cooperation. This is frustrating because of the great lack of these sort of games on the market. It is either pvp (because the developer gave up on making pve games hard) or a very fews games not truly within the genre we want.

    Swtor isn't the game to offer us this challenge and I simply identify that for our personal interests that may not reflect upon the interests of the majority of others. I also played Swtor for it's story. One just gets tired of the game and I won't go back unless friends do. I in fact don't play mmos solo anymore period. Friends draw me in or nothing. This is why I am desperate to play an old school-like newer mmo with the challenge they once offered. Still waiting however.

    You stay sassy!

  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,640
    You guys just do not understand SWTOR went socialist.. its a redistribution of wealth in practice, take from the have and give to the have nots.
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    I like how the companions are now. Before they died so easy. Like other have said i play for the story. I don't spacebar the game like most of the hardcore vet.players do with everything. Some of these people complaining about everything have already done the new content on the first day. Some of them are saying they did it in 15 minutes. Why do they even play mmo's.
  • iloveyousenpaiiloveyousenpai Member UncommonPosts: 11
    Can somebody please kill my character. I somehow got glitched in a rock and can not fast travel and i am out of range of enemy to kill me. The game kind of broke skyrim style on me.
  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    Kind of like EQ2 and the linear curve thing. Every expansion adds a new level of linear so they adjust the lower content to adjust the new content. Once you get into the new content things get a little bit more difficult for awhile until you get the new linear gear which makes old content a faceroll.
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  • iloveyousenpaiiloveyousenpai Member UncommonPosts: 11
    edited October 2015
    Im on The euro server The Tomb @ the forge remenant. Same username
  • DemaeonDemaeon Member UncommonPosts: 5
    Basedville said:
    Im on The euro server The Tomb @ the forge remenant. Same username
    Try /stuck in the chat window.
  • iloveyousenpaiiloveyousenpai Member UncommonPosts: 11
    edited October 2015
    Demaeon said:
    Im on The euro server The Tomb @ the forge remenant. Same username
    Try /stuck in the chat window.
    You fixed it! ty! somehow it went throught after spam chat. Weird. It did it.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,855
    I only need to say one word.

    Treek
  • MikeBMikeB Community ManagerAdministrator RarePosts: 6,555
    Companions are definitely strong right now. I expect tweaks.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    GeezerGamer said:
    I only need to say one word.

    Treek
    Treek is never seeing light of day again and is sentenced to manual labor on my ship.

    If you havent played since the patch, things have cahnged A LOT.
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