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Has any MMO ever tried a tank job with a pet?

DeathofsageDeathofsage Member UncommonPosts: 1,102
I'm not talking about pet jobs with pets capable of tanking.

Plenty of mmo's have pet jobs as dps, and healer/buffer jobs with pets aren't uncommon either, but I've never seen a tank with a pet.

Conceptually, it could be neat. Have two pets, one defensive--that provides auras or buffs or debuffs, one offensive--that just does damage, but it would probably be hard to balance.

Warcraft: I do know about DK's Army of the Dead but that was just a cooldown and the pets had no intelligence. I know about Unholy's minion but unholy was not a tanking tree.

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  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433
    Well, SW:TOR has companions that are designated as tanks, but of course they can't really tank raids and such (unless you're ridiculously overgeared and -leveled).

    I do vaguely recall a F2P game with pets that could actually tank, but I can't for the life of me remember the name.

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  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904
    I'm not talking about pet jobs with pets capable of tanking.

    Plenty of mmo's have pet jobs as dps, and healer/buffer jobs with pets aren't uncommon either, but I've never seen a tank with a pet.

    Conceptually, it could be neat. Have two pets, one defensive--that provides auras or buffs or debuffs, one offensive--that just does damage, but it would probably be hard to balance.

    Warcraft: I do know about DK's Army of the Dead but that was just a cooldown and the pets had no intelligence. I know about Unholy's minion but unholy was not a tanking tree.
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  • freakkyfreakky Member UncommonPosts: 113
    edited October 2015
    Yeah, anarchy online: class metaphysicist. Eq1 you could hire merc to, heal,tank, or dps also. Made boxing full party lot more easy. "boxing playing more then one character at a time".
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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,159
    RFO if anyone knows that game had pet tanks on the Cora side. They were able to tank anything.

    Voidwalkers and Tenacity based hunter pets used to be able to tank really well in earlier WoW. Spell damage hunter turtles used to be able to raid tank, Voidwalkers in Wrath were able to tank Naxx when it was relevant. Obviously the design wasn't intentional and like all things awesome Blizzard nerfed it.

    There are some other oddball games that I'm failing to recollect that had pet tanks.
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,713
    I remember a comment of a dev some years ago.. I think it was about the original FFXIV?
    Something along the lines of: "We will not have any minion or pet classes in the beginning because those are extremely hard to balance."

    A well working tank with effective pets? Difficult to find a balance there
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  • DeathofsageDeathofsage Member UncommonPosts: 1,102
    Dakeru said:
    I remember a comment of a dev some years ago.. I think it was about the original FFXIV?
    Something along the lines of: "We will not have any minion or pet classes in the beginning because those are extremely hard to balance."

    A well working tank with effective pets? Difficult to find a balance there
    Oh I agree, it would be tough to balance. The pet would have to be integral to their mechanics, and the offensive pet would only come out in phases of a battle or on farm-content.

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    I think a lot of people (not everyone) are misunderstanding though. I'm not asking for pets that can tank (or npcs that you can hire), I'm asking about a tank class that has a worthwhile pet.

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  • RamlachRamlach Member UncommonPosts: 39
    The only thing that comes to mind is the engineer in Wildstar with their bots
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,822
    Gw2, Rangers have different types of pets, tanking, buffs, and spirits that can also buff.  Necro has some limited pets.  HoT Engineers will have some limited pets.

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  • AbisbowaAbisbowa Member UncommonPosts: 91
    Dark Age of Camelot had the Necromancer. When you summoned your Abomination your character would go into a Spectral Form. Spectral Form basically made you immune to damage. All of your actions were taken out by the Abomination. There were a few spells you could cast while in Spectral Form. If your abomination died you would immediately drop out of Spectral Form and lose about 75% of your HP.
  • FeracitusFeracitus Member UncommonPosts: 7
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,159
    Feracitus said:
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
    The panther didn't tank though.. it was more for DD.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,822
    Aori said:
    Feracitus said:
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
    The panther didn't tank though.. it was more for DD.
    Forgot all about L2.  SWG had creature handler which was one of the best pet classes I have ever played.

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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member RarePosts: 2,642
    games who let any class to use pets, like rappelz, arche age, lineage2 dark knight had the panther as dps pet
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,822
    ESO sorcerer.

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  • FeracitusFeracitus Member UncommonPosts: 7
    Aori said:
    Feracitus said:
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
    The panther didn't tank though.. it was more for DD.
    Well the OP said specifically that he didnt mean tank pets, but tank classes with good pets, in wich case the DA totally qualifies, since the panther did really good damage and had some cc capacity.
  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,144
    edited October 2015
    I'm not talking about pet jobs with pets capable of tanking.

    Plenty of mmo's have pet jobs as dps, and healer/buffer jobs with pets aren't uncommon either, but I've never seen a tank with a pet.

    Conceptually, it could be neat. Have two pets, one defensive--that provides auras or buffs or debuffs, one offensive--that just does damage, but it would probably be hard to balance.

    Warcraft: I do know about DK's Army of the Dead but that was just a cooldown and the pets had no intelligence. I know about Unholy's minion but unholy was not a tanking tree.
    SWTOR.  Lineage 2, Dark Avenger had a Cat that was helpful.

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  • AoriAori Member EpicPosts: 4,159
    edited October 2015
    Feracitus said:
    Aori said:
    Feracitus said:
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
    The panther didn't tank though.. it was more for DD.
    Well the OP said specifically that he didnt mean tank pets, but tank classes with good pets, in wich case the DA totally qualifies, since the panther did really good damage and had some cc capacity.
    Ah I didn't see his first line. my bad.

    Either way the panther was more for PvP than anything else. It had no affect on tanking.
  • VorthanionVorthanion Member RarePosts: 2,637
    Rift - Beastmaster - Tank Class with a pet.

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,834
    SOE ... tryed to tank EQnext with Smedley as a pet
  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Aori said:
    Feracitus said:
       Hm Dark Avenger from Lineage 2 was a tank class with a worthwhile pet.
    The panther didn't tank though.. it was more for DD.
    Eh, that seemed to be exactly what the OP asked for. He seemed uninterested in obvious things like hunter pets (WOW) tanking and wanted tanks who did the tanking themselves but also had a pet.

    I can't really think of any good examples:
    • WOW Paladin tanks used to have a 3-5 min cooldown that summoned a companion, but I think the tank variant only used a damage reduction shield on you (the tank) and didn't actually attack or do anything else
    • WOW Deathknights could summon a ghoul horde which could taunt.
    • WOW Monks had an ox statue out most of the time which could AOE taunt. (Active far more than the above abilities but...well it's a statue, not a pet.)
    • ESO's Sorcerers could tank, but it always sounded like they weren't quite on the same tier as the typical tank classes (Dragonknight/Templar), and when tanking it seems like Sorcs wouldn't end up taking pet skills (even though they technically were available for you to slot in.)
    So nothing that really fits the OP's request. Honestly I was surprised that I dug through CoH's power sets and couldn't find an example of pets, since I could've sworn at least one tank had pets.

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  • GrimulaGrimula Member UncommonPosts: 577
    Everquest uses Shadow Knights with Skeleton Pets  =)
  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585
    WoW - Warlock - Voidwalker
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,876
    Eq1 shadowknight was a tank class with a pet since 1999. Rift beastmaster... etc.

    It's been done quite a number of times. 
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