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Best decision I've made in the past 2 years was leaving this game

holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,756
So glad I left this game a few months after launch.  It's still fun to drop in these forums from time to time and see what the latest scam/screwup from Trion is, though.

When I think of all the time I saved slaving away at my virtual farm or doing trade runs just to try to compete with exploiters or people that paid hundreds or thousands of dollars on their toons, it's hard to believe I spent any time at all on this sham of a game.

I feel bad for anyone that's going into this game without realizing what they are getting into.
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  • BarryManilowBarryManilow Member UncommonPosts: 701
    I got the email, that my subscription time has run out.  Funny I deleted this crappy game from my hard drive months ago.  I didn't even know I had that much time left on my account when I cancelled my sub.
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    You sound like you are saying it is pay to win.  It clearly is not as seen in this video.  Make sure to focus at 4:20 minutes into it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GqaJaS4bs
    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • TheJodaTheJoda Member UncommonPosts: 583
    oh I got that email too....and I thought someone hacked my account, haha.

    ....Being Banned from MMORPG's forums since 2010, for Trolling the Trolls!!!

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,871
    thousands agree ^^
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,839
    Everyone got a short sub renewal because of the problems they had with the update.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,714
    Talonsin said:
    You sound like you are saying it is pay to win.  It clearly is not as seen in this video.  Make sure to focus at 4:20 minutes into it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GqaJaS4bs
    I am not clicking your link, the entire premise is absurd. I wonder who many $150 alpha players are still playing this game. My guess is a very small percentage. There was a mass exodus from this game because of pay to win. You are in the minority here.
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  • TheJodaTheJoda Member UncommonPosts: 583
    I played the alpha free, then did get a founders for $150.00.  I also quit due to the cash shop added items and changes that was made to the game......I am sure NOT many founders remain.

    ....Being Banned from MMORPG's forums since 2010, for Trolling the Trolls!!!

  • farbegefarbege Member UncommonPosts: 305
    edited September 2015
    The servers are packed my friend.

    So whatever messages haters leave here on the hater forums.

    THEY DOESN'T MATTER.

    Get over it.  Find for yourself something you can enjoy and stop carrying for these..mind you it had such an influence in your soul already  that months after leaving you get back to it...and always get back to it..to check forums ..

    I for one thank heaven for this game.

    After 10 years of bad MMORPG games finaly a MMORPG thats worth it.  

    oh btw....happy volunteer Patron since day 1 ...
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,910
    edited September 2015
    farbege said:
    The servers are packed my friend.

    So whatever messages haters leave here on the hater forums.

    THEY DOESN'T MATTER.

    Get over it.

    I for one thank heaven for this game.

    After 10 years of bad MMORPG games finaly a MMORPG thats worth it.  

    oh btw....happy volunteer Patron since day 1 ...
    Yup, your post is confirmation of something we've all known for some time now: There's always people willing to play any game, no matter how "bad" or "P2W" the rest of the world may think that game is...
  • farbegefarbege Member UncommonPosts: 305
    edited September 2015
    farbege said:
    The servers are packed my friend.

    So whatever messages haters leave here on the hater forums.

    THEY DOESN'T MATTER.

    Get over it.

    I for one thank heaven for this game.

    After 10 years of bad MMORPG games finaly a MMORPG thats worth it.  

    oh btw....happy volunteer Patron since day 1 ...
    Yup, your post is confirmation of something we've all known for some time now: There's always people willing to play any game, no matter how "bad" or "P2W" the rest of the world may think that game is...


    hoped fellow poster would pay more attention to my wording of "volunteer Patron"...

    I got so many credits from ingame gold that i could eysily play more then a year  from now on  for free  but  i feel like "betray" or not support properly the creators of the game if i didn't pay at least something for these masterpiece thats the only reason i still pay a subscription for my patron.

    I didn't spend  any real money for anythiing else then Patron.

    About "taste" we could easy start an endless discussion, dont you think.

    The fact that reveals more then anything else  on the matter is, people who believe this place is "bad" don#t stop to come back to here, to these "bad" spot.

    Its enrtertaining somehow for someone who enjoy the best MMORPG on the market to watch these behaviour. 

  • GrailerGrailer Member UncommonPosts: 893
    So glad I left this game a few months after launch.  It's still fun to drop in these forums from time to time and see what the latest scam/screwup from Trion is, though.

    When I think of all the time I saved slaving away at my virtual farm or doing trade runs just to try to compete with exploiters or people that paid hundreds or thousands of dollars on their toons, it's hard to believe I spent any time at all on this sham of a game.

    I feel bad for anyone that's going into this game without realizing what they are getting into.

    Yeah the game was actually quite fun and addictive for me .

    But end game it became plainly obvious that it is pay 2 win game .


    I wasted about $500 on this game before I realised that it was going to require $50,000 to buy the materials to get gear good  enough to compete against the best players in pvp ( which is mostly gear based )


    However when I found out how much hackers were exploiting the game it total ruined the game for me knowing people were getting "progression" for free while suckers like me paid
  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096
    edited September 2015
    Talonsin said:
    You sound like you are saying it is pay to win.  It clearly is not as seen in this video.  Make sure to focus at 4:20 minutes into it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GqaJaS4bs
    HAHAHAH, that 1vs5 and he killed them all. I am surprised Kano hasn't tried to defend that;) He must already did. Haha 4 20 is funny. At 8 mins he just he just ran into their castle, and killed like 4 people and ran away.  Who would want to sit there and play this is beyond me haha. I didn't even get that far, to even pvp. I saw it coming as soon as i understood the cash shop, and crafting. Glad I bailed. 

    Looked fun though, if you had full gear=).
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    This game also has the worst balance on gear damage reduction.

    (Def/Mdef)
    Cloth has 20/100 stats
    Leather has 60/60 stats
    Plate 100/0 stats

    Which is the best? Cloth.

    Stack a bunch of defence gems in them, pop some potions and some buffs/passives and you can reach 60-70% damage reduction easily on physical defence ontop of your already high magic defence.

  • farbegefarbege Member UncommonPosts: 305
    edited September 2015

    Bloodaxes said:
    This game also has the worst balance on gear damage reduction.

    (Def/Mdef)
    Cloth has 20/100 stats
    Leather has 60/60 stats
    Plate 100/0 stats

    Which is the best? Cloth.

    Stack a bunch of defence gems in them, pop some potions and some buffs/passives and you can reach 60-70% damage reduction easily on physical defence ontop of your already high magic defence.

    Def / Mdef stat is a small piece on the big puzzle.

    Cloth wearing mages have to not move when they want to cast spells for example  and also have cast times on almost any spell.
     
    Also there is no armor restriction, put on cloth and cloth pieces yourself.
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    edited September 2015
    Most tanks use earth cloth pieces because plate sucks ass.

    I'm not talking about mages. I'm talking how a set (Cloth) that SHOULD be weak to physical defence, in archeage can reach absurd amount of damage reduction.

    Last I played the game I had a cloth and plate set. My plate set (Was almost all Celestial but not gemmed yet) had on 60% physical reduction and around 10% magical reduction WHILE my crappy cloth set (Was mostly Greater Howling Abyss pieces) gave me almost 50% physical reduction and 30-40% magical reduction.

  • Zarkin86Zarkin86 Member UncommonPosts: 122
    best decision ive made is after testing the RU version to not ever play this game. have fun with your tab targeting :/
  • ThaneThane Member RarePosts: 3,426
    So glad I left this game a few months after launch.  It's still fun to drop in these forums from time to time and see what the latest scam/screwup from Trion is, though.

    When I think of all the time I saved slaving away at my virtual farm or doing trade runs just to try to compete with exploiters or people that paid hundreds or thousands of dollars on their toons, it's hard to believe I spent any time at all on this sham of a game.

    I feel bad for anyone that's going into this game without realizing what they are getting into.
    i feel bad for you bro, because obviously you forgot what gaming is about.
    it's about fun, and you fun does not equal the fun does NOT equal the rest of the world's.

    and somewhere in your "gaming carreer", you obviously lost that feeling.
    let people play what they enjoy, this is NOT your problem dude.

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Bloodaxes said:
    Most tanks use earth cloth pieces because plate sucks ass.

    I'm not talking about mages. I'm talking how a set (Cloth) that SHOULD be weak to physical defence, in archeage can reach absurd amount of damage reduction.

    Last I played the game I had a cloth and plate set. My plate set (Was almost all Celestial but not gemmed yet) had on 60% physical reduction and around 10% magical reduction WHILE my crappy cloth set (Was mostly Greater Howling Abyss pieces) gave me almost 50% physical reduction and 30-40% magical reduction.
    Did you ever play DDO? When i was playing DDO i found a guy who was tanking as paladin and he used cloth armor and small round shield. I was puzzled, i mean should a tank not wear plate armor for maximum protection or equip large shields? Turned out the game has an outstanding character advancement system that allows so much options that a tank can stay at cloth and small shield yet be the best one there is.

    Your post reminded of that, AA has some really nice ideas but they are not designed the way western audience will appreciate, at least the 90% of them will not.

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Zarkin86 said:
    best decision ive made is after testing the RU version to not ever play this game. have fun with your tab targeting :/
    Console crap is that way -------------->>

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Talonsin said:
    You sound like you are saying it is pay to win.  It clearly is not as seen in this video.  Make sure to focus at 4:20 minutes into it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GqaJaS4bs
    HAHAHAH, that 1vs5 and he killed them all. I am surprised Kano hasn't tried to defend that;) He must already did. Haha 4 20 is funny. At 8 mins he just he just ran into their castle, and killed like 4 people and ran away.  Who would want to sit there and play this is beyond me haha. I didn't even get that far, to even pvp. I saw it coming as soon as i understood the cash shop, and crafting. Glad I bailed. 

    Looked fun though, if you had full gear=).
    That's the korean version dude and soon to be chinese version. They have some outrageous regrade charms in cash shop that Trion version (still) don't have. Frankly, apart from a few players no one complain about pay2win in korea, since the item we are buying in Trion's AA for 5$ same is only 200 won in korea, that is like 20 cent. And someone in ollo did get to mythic rating but he left soon after because he went broke or so i heard... :pleased: 

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    edited September 2015
    Bloodaxes said:
    Most tanks use earth cloth pieces because plate sucks ass.

    I'm not talking about mages. I'm talking how a set (Cloth) that SHOULD be weak to physical defence, in archeage can reach absurd amount of damage reduction.

    Last I played the game I had a cloth and plate set. My plate set (Was almost all Celestial but not gemmed yet) had on 60% physical reduction and around 10% magical reduction WHILE my crappy cloth set (Was mostly Greater Howling Abyss pieces) gave me almost 50% physical reduction and 30-40% magical reduction.
    Did you ever play DDO? When i was playing DDO i found a guy who was tanking as paladin and he used cloth armor and small round shield. I was puzzled, i mean should a tank not wear plate armor for maximum protection or equip large shields? Turned out the game has an outstanding character advancement system that allows so much options that a tank can stay at cloth and small shield yet be the best one there is.

    Your post reminded of that, AA has some really nice ideas but they are not designed the way western audience will appreciate, at least the 90% of them will not.
    Yes I played it and enjoyed it for a little while. (I loved the crossbow that shooted multiple times eventough it wasn't the best build)

    While I agree that given the option with character customization being able to tank with cloth is nice, in archeage however plate is terrible compared to the other sets because it's the only set that has 20% less stats. (0 Magic Defence)

    Once you reach around 60% damage reduction, the game starts giving diminishing returns if you attempt to go higher. I had a guildie with a full divine set and his physical reduction with plate was around 70%. We are talking about a set of equipment that gives ONLY physical defence.

    Archeage damage reduction was not implemented well. Even leather without doing some heavy regrading can reach you around 50% damage reduction on both physical and magical defence. It's that easy to reach 50% reduction. Then there's also specific enchantments or Accessories that give % damage reduction for all damage ontop of your armor reducing the damage.

    On the server I played there was A LOT of tanky players because the game let's you pump the % reduction far too easily.

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Bloodaxes said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    Most tanks use earth cloth pieces because plate sucks ass.

    I'm not talking about mages. I'm talking how a set (Cloth) that SHOULD be weak to physical defence, in archeage can reach absurd amount of damage reduction.

    Last I played the game I had a cloth and plate set. My plate set (Was almost all Celestial but not gemmed yet) had on 60% physical reduction and around 10% magical reduction WHILE my crappy cloth set (Was mostly Greater Howling Abyss pieces) gave me almost 50% physical reduction and 30-40% magical reduction.
    Did you ever play DDO? When i was playing DDO i found a guy who was tanking as paladin and he used cloth armor and small round shield. I was puzzled, i mean should a tank not wear plate armor for maximum protection or equip large shields? Turned out the game has an outstanding character advancement system that allows so much options that a tank can stay at cloth and small shield yet be the best one there is.

    Your post reminded of that, AA has some really nice ideas but they are not designed the way western audience will appreciate, at least the 90% of them will not.
    Yes I played it and enjoyed it for a little while. (I loved the crossbow that shooted multiple times eventough it wasn't the best build)

    While I agree that given the option with character customization being able to tank with cloth is nice, in archeage however plate is terrible compared to the other sets because it's the only set that has 20% less stats. (0 Magic Defence)

    Once you reach around 60% damage reduction, the game starts giving diminishing returns if you attempt to go higher. I had a guildie with a full divine set and his physical reduction with plate was around 70%. We are talking about a set of equipment that gives ONLY physical defence.

    Archeage damage reduction was not implemented well. Even leather without doing some heavy regrading can reach you around 40% damage reduction on both physical and magical defence. It's that easy to reach 50% reduction. Then there's also specific enchantments or Accessories that give % damage reduction for all damage ontop of your armor reducing the damage.

    On the server I played there was A LOT of tanky players because the game let's you pump the % reduction far too easily.
    That is true but diminishing return is an rpg thing, stack too much of one stats and it starts giving diminishing return. RPG is basically like a complex mathematical algorithm but i agree that in AA it is not done very well. And the more they add to the game the more it will become annoying. They need to rethink their entire stats system soon.

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  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    farbege said:
    The servers are packed my friend.

    So whatever messages haters leave here on the hater forums.

    THEY DOESN'T MATTER.

    Get over it.  Find for yourself something you can enjoy and stop carrying for these..mind you it had such an influence in your soul already  that months after leaving you get back to it...and always get back to it..to check forums ..

    I for one thank heaven for this game.

    After 10 years of bad MMORPG games finaly a MMORPG thats worth it.  

    oh btw....happy volunteer Patron since day 1 ...
    This is proof that the market for pay to win games is larger then we first anticipated.  Look at how popular casino's are in Vegas.  This game is nothing more then a virtual casino for mmo players.  Someone should open the Archeage mortgage company to help people pay for their addiction.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    filmoret said:
    farbege said:
    The servers are packed my friend.

    So whatever messages haters leave here on the hater forums.

    THEY DOESN'T MATTER.

    Get over it.  Find for yourself something you can enjoy and stop carrying for these..mind you it had such an influence in your soul already  that months after leaving you get back to it...and always get back to it..to check forums ..

    I for one thank heaven for this game.

    After 10 years of bad MMORPG games finaly a MMORPG thats worth it.  

    oh btw....happy volunteer Patron since day 1 ...
    This is proof that the market for pay to win games is larger then we first anticipated.  Look at how popular casino's are in Vegas.  This game is nothing more then a virtual casino for mmo players.  Someone should open the Archeage mortgage company to help people pay for their addiction.
    Now when you say pay2win, exactly how much are you willing to pay to win? This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GqaJaS4bs

    I don't know if anyone seen his interview a year ago in reddit, he spent 10000$(dollar not korean won) to regrade+temper all of his gears to mythic and 150% extra defense+power. Now he can kill so many without dying but he has become a sad bitter person, just look at the video. Because of abysmal RNG in AA, only crazy morons who spend that much money can get to the point where they can just press a button and win. yes, by logical explanation this is pure pay2win but are you really interested in spending that much money to kill players in 2 hit and then bitch about it and finally stop playing?

    Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.

  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,196
    Bloodaxes said:
    This game also has the worst balance on gear damage reduction.

    (Def/Mdef)
    Cloth has 20/100 stats
    Leather has 60/60 stats
    Plate 100/0 stats

    Which is the best? Cloth.

    Stack a bunch of defence gems in them, pop some potions and some buffs/passives and you can reach 60-70% damage reduction easily on physical defence ontop of your already high magic defence.
    Obsidian gear  changed this somewhat, Obsidian plate shield has Mdef on it. 

    Most players have 2-3 sets,  i use cloth and leather for PvP and obsidian plate for pve.


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