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Do you expect to play an online game in the next 10 years using VR hardware (head mounted display)?

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  • ZandilZandil Member UncommonPosts: 252
    As a very proud owner of a Oculus Dk2 it's funny to see a lot of peoples concerns here, yet most have been resolved already when the Rift goes to CV1 production next year.

    Wearing glasses - most glasses fit fine with the DK2, CV1 has different faceplates that can be changed out to suit different glasses shapes.

    Motion sickness - A ton of work has gone into working out what causes it in VR and ways to prevent it, the high persistence screens will help this is well as they do a lot of work with software side to prevent it ( there will always be people who are more susceptible to motion sickness and not much you can do for that ) 

    Cords and more cords - CV1 has built in Mic and 3d audio headphones ( headphones are removable if you want to use your own ) so one cord from the Rift only

    Controls - wireless Touch controls are on there way for CV1 https://www.oculus.com/en-us/rift/
    All Rift's will ship with Xbox controller, this gives all the Devs one controller platform to work with until touch becomes more mainstream. 
    They are already looking ahead of Touch with Oculus buying 13th labs and Pebble they have their eyes firmly set on seeing and using your own hands in VR.

    Weight - Dk2 is extremely light and CV1 is even lighter.

    Mainstream might take some time but VR is now here to stay 



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  • NERVergoproxyNERVergoproxy Member UncommonPosts: 1,500
    Cost. Most games probably wont force you to use a VR hardware. It will all come down to cost.
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,623
    Cost. Most games probably wont force you to use a VR hardware. It will all come down to cost.
    Cost?

    it's doesn't stop folks from dropping $$ on a new Playstation or Xbox.
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  • skeaserskeaser Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    I like to be aware of my RL surroundings. No headset for me.
  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    In a literal sense I Probably will have played some online game at least once with a VR headset.

    However I expect Probably Not is more in the spirit of the question of whether it'll be a common thing I do.  As others have mentioned, we've had VR headsets since the 80s and it's never taken off.  While it'd be unfair not to concede that recent advances have made VR way more powerful since then, I think it's just the idea that you have to wear a clunky headset that keeps it from being mainstream.

    Of course I saw a great article recently that pointed out how bad we are at predicting future innovations. Basically our minds establish a somewhat fixed expectation of the rate of change (based legitimately on our past experiences) but the true rate of innovation is always increasing over time, which makes it hard for us to accurately gauge how far technology will be in another 10 years.  So it's entirely possible my prediction will be way off base here, though my guess is that if VR took off it would be due to a significant improvement in the headset itself to be less clunky.

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  • NailzzzNailzzz Member UncommonPosts: 515
     I like to be able to see my drink, rather than spill it on my keyboard. For this reason alone, VR headsets of any kind are right out.
  • UgUgUgUgUgUg Member UncommonPosts: 81
    Hi Brabbitt

    Well what makes me think this is the fact that there are physiologic aspects to using this type of equipment to play games.    I am one of those ancient gamers of course and If I take from your nickname that you were born 1987, that would make you the same age as my son.

    I think VR would be less effective the older you get, ( 40, 50, 60 ) because I have experienced it myself.  Your body is less able to tolerate this as years go on.   There is a reason we prefer to send younger people to space.  It stresses your senses and your body.  And some people just aren't suited for it no matter what the age.   I had a friend who just could not play shooter games because he got a sort of vertigo from them.  I had no idea then but I do know, now that I am 10 years older.

    So point of fact, if you think these games are cool now, then go crazy.  Chances are they will become less appealing , depending on the type of game, as time goes on.

    So for people < 35, VR is probably the cats ass.  Over that and it may becomes less appealing fast, as evidenced by the response to this poll, I might add. It seems to support a minority in overall favor for VR.
    I dont know if you or anyone else read my post. Im 48. I tried Descent 3D over a week with a heavy VR headset back in 1997 and if it hadnt have been for the cost and the fact the headset was so heavy I would have kept it. I am older and as you said  our bodies and mind do age but even old people still go on extreme roller coasters, run marathons, skydive so I see VR as much less stress than this.  As for psychological effects, will it be any worse than currently  spending too long in front of a computer or TV?

    Also there are always going to be people with issues the same as some epileptic people with flashing lights, people motion sickness and so on.  Like you said some people cant even play fast moving pc games as it is right now on screen.  But I can safely  say that only when everyone tries this out and its at a relatively cheap price point will it become the  next craze and eventually settle into normal life.

    Why? Why do people want increasingly larger TVs,  and more immersive sound systems. VR headsets are not just for games and applications. 4 people can sit watching completely different tv shows in the same room and still chat as we know earphones don't necessarily have to shut off all sound. Or each person could be in their own larger than Imax  experience totally immersed in the film. No one needs to fight over the comfort of living room TV

    Then comes the big bonus, being able to be in the same room virtually as your family on the other side of the world. There is one VR app I read about that emulates a cinema surrounding and people that are physically on the other side of the world can be in the same virtual cinema right next to you.
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Cost. Most games probably wont force you to use a VR hardware. It will all come down to cost.
    Cost?

    it's doesn't stop folks from dropping $$ on a new Playstation or Xbox.
    A more valid comparison would be the Nintendo Powerglove, Microsoft Kinect, and PS Move. If they bring the price under $100 (preferably around $75) then they should be in a good place to get plenty of them out there, which increases support and games designed for them, which sells more, etc.  People will pay a lot more for the base unit than for add-ons, the exceptions being early adopters, hobbyists and the more invested gamers.


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  • GrailerGrailer Member UncommonPosts: 893
    VR sounds dangeous and unsafe. Can't see anything going on in reality. 

    However , the games I remember feeling I was there were 1st person like Everquest. Games like WOW and Final fantasy where I watched my character I remember it as if I was watching someone else playing .


  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,067
    I voted 'absolutely not'.  The technology isn't there to deal with my visual issues -- keratoconus in both eyes and a corneal graft in one.  My eye team barely has enough technology to try to provide corrective vision.  I don't see the games industry going down those roads, and even if they did, I couldn't afford it.

    And none of that even considers if I want that kind of technology or not.

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  • LyrianLyrian Member UncommonPosts: 412
    I expect this within the next 2-4 years and within 10 years I'd like to be hearing of even deeper immersion systems coming.
  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    I think the technology will have matured by then.  I just hope they have kinks worked out to where they can eliminate the motion sickness and whatnot.

    With that said, I doubt I'm going to sit around with a contraption on my face for prolonged periods of time.  Already bad enough my ears get uncomfortable with having a headset on for a few hours at a time, I doubt I'd want something strapped to my face for that long.  

    Hopefully game developers will continue to make games for conventional machines (PCs/consoles) that won't be exclusive to VR technology.
  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 333
    Nope, can't afford what will be the system requirements besides the VR equipment.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,079
    I already have: iRacing and DCS world

    I've been playing around with these things for almost 3 years now. I've come to the conclusion that really I love using them with Driving, Flying and Racing sims and don't really care for too much else yet. I thought FPS's would be killer but I found I like them better the traditional way. 

    I can't stand wearing the things for too long. 15-20 minutes bursts seems about the best. It just gives me a headache having the thing on for too long. Resolution still has to improve as well. They're pretty cool but still have a ways to go yet.   




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  • FirstKnight117FirstKnight117 Member UncommonPosts: 106
    Cost. Most games probably wont force you to use a VR hardware. It will all come down to cost.
    For those of us on a budget, this would be my main issue. It's not even a complaint, just a fact. I have only so many $$$ to spend on gaming so this most likely leaves out VR. And I don't feel like I would be missing some life changing event, although obviously there are those here that feel differently. Now, a holodeck :: get one of THOSE online & I will be the first in line B)
  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,600
    Loktofeit said:
    psiic said:
    What we really need is someone to make a damn holo deck.

    The first major attempt at that is coming and it's called The Void
    Ummm video is just a VR helment in an empty room, same crap I wont use. I mean a holographic projector you set in a room and it projects an visual overlay or rerender.

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,631
    Nailzzz said:
     I like to be able to see my drink, rather than spill it on my keyboard. For this reason alone, VR headsets of any kind are right out.
    Get a cup holder.


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,550
    Absolutely not. I don't care about it and don't require it. Additionally it looks ridiculous.



  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,079
    Sovrath said:
    Absolutely not. I don't care about it and don't require it. Additionally it looks ridiculous.
    That's what my wife said ;)

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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,067
    edited September 2015
    Lyrian said:
    I expect this within the next 2-4 years and within 10 years I'd like to be hearing of even deeper immersion systems coming.
    You can have your olfactory interface if you like, Lyrian.  Just remember me and this conversation when you walk downwind of an ogre. :)

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,550
    laserit said:
    Sovrath said:
    Absolutely not. I don't care about it and don't require it. Additionally it looks ridiculous.
    That's what my wife said ;)
    Your wife is very, very wise. You should marry her all over again.

    Additionally, as someone else mentioned, it's preferable to be aware of one's surroundings. I don't even like wearing headphones at my computer.



  • skeaserskeaser Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    You know, I said no but then I thought about the question some more. A wearable set like the occulus rift? Nope, nope and nope. Something like hololens though? Oh yeah.
  • JC-SmithJC-Smith Member UncommonPosts: 421
    The level of immersion you can receive from VR goes far beyond what you can get otherwise. I can't see it completely replacing non-VR devices because it isn't always convenient or available. But I do see future MMOs being designed with VR in mind. Which means changes to the way GUI works, less camera controlling cut scenes, and things of that nature.
  • UgUgUgUgUgUg Member UncommonPosts: 81
    edited September 2015
    Bottom line VR will happen like tablets happened, like smartphones happened, like 4k ultra high def 60 inch widescreen is happening, like 3D happened. The problem with 3D is it was never worth the costs because of its limits. It can look really good but not at the premium price asked for buying the movies and it was never supported well enough at home. But people still want a more immersive experience and thats where the VR headsets come in but they must be cheap enough and comfortable. Back in 1997 I was very impressed by the very limited Descent 3D on a heavy VR headset but technology was not evolved enough. After what I read in reviews 18 years on from before Im sure some people on here were born VR should be coming of age. I look forward to laughing at everyone that argues it isnt just like the last time when I was right about tablets.
  • UgUgUgUgUgUg Member UncommonPosts: 81
    Sovrath said:
    laserit said:
    Sovrath said:
    Absolutely not. I don't care about it and don't require it. Additionally it looks ridiculous.
    That's what my wife said ;)
    Your wife is very, very wise. You should marry her all over again.

    Additionally, as someone else mentioned, it's preferable to be aware of one's surroundings. I don't even like wearing headphones at my computer.
    Like when you are sleeping?
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