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Derek Smart's 'New' List of Demands

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  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,568
    Mr. Smart has made a lot of valid points. Forget your personal opinions of him just look at the facts.
     
  • user547user547 Member UncommonPosts: 150
    Nah, no need to do anything to appease the industry interloper Derek "The Sociopath" Smart.  He doesn't matter.
  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

    No more Smart please  O.o

    I had my dose and my psychological curiosity is satisfied :pleased: 


  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Zezda said:

    derek smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

     

    image

    +1  I laughed
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member RarePosts: 4,303

    Seems a reasonable audit to me to see if they are actually fullfilling their end of the deal. If they have nothing to hide....then it should be an easy audit. Even if Derek smarts is a scumbag they should still show if they are actually spending their fiancer's money correctly.
    There's no justification for them to open all of their books to anyone.  That's never going to happen.  I predict his case gets thrown out of court.  There will be no settlement.  But hopefully they make it easy for any KS donors that want one to get refunds (and lose access to their stuff).
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,062
    I know really nothing about Star Citizen, but all this crap with Smart makes me want to support them.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,080
    Horusra said:
    I know really nothing about Star Citizen, but all this crap with Smart makes me want to support them.
    Naw... they got plenty of support as it is

    Just sit back and enjoy the ride ;)

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • FirstKnight117FirstKnight117 Member UncommonPosts: 106
    Had to get the popcorn for this one.

    A lot of posters have pointed out "well maybe Smart is a greedy narcissist sociopath :: BUT hey, he's right to ask SC to waste time doing an open audit available to the general public!"

    Okay so I'll play. No ad hominem attacks on Smart. Is dragging RSI/SC into a costly legal battle the best way to ever see this game get made? Do they not communicate what they are doing? It seems to me something of this scale and scope would take a reasonably long time to get right. Sure, we'd all like to see some sort of full financial audit about where every penny went. I'm still not sure how that actually makes everything clear and builds confidence in what they are doing. I don't think after the amount of work they are putting into this that it's vaporware.

    IMO. I guess Smart, being the developer god and genius he is, knows better :: oops. Ad hominem and all that. Sorry impulse control ::
  • Squadron24Squadron24 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    edited August 2015
    This funny video satire sums it up.
    not the best subtitling but it seems to be made by an Italian, and I giggled

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGYnZ-ryiw


    and here the first preview of Smarts basement masterpiece with 3 players, maybe posted before but still hilarious

    German magazine preview of Defense Line
    (turn on subtitles)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7n29gEV18w



    aaaaand this was my 24th post guys.
    Post edited by Squadron24 on
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  • cormachcormach Member UncommonPosts: 83
    He may or may not have valid points, but I still remember Battlecruiser 3000AD, and spending a long time trying to get it to work, only to find the game was a buggy mess.  

    After that, anything that has the name Derek Smart attached to it, I stay far, far away.
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,556
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

    No more Smart please  O.o

    I had my dose and my psychological curiosity is satisfied :pleased: 


    I think you are right on that.  Funny thing though:  old co-workers of Roberts said essentially the same thing about him.   I think they both fit in that description pretty dang well.  One's just a little better in public....

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • Ronald88Ronald88 Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Smart Sucks !!!
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,035
    edited August 2015
    I honestly don't know how good star citizen is going to be, but I expect just like other games it is going to end up with another  game that.

    . You have to pay for customization rather than just unlock and be able to swap cosmetics on character.
    . The game will be nothing more but instances with a limited number of ships in each instance with combat.

    I could be wrong about Star Citizen, but will wait to see.

    As far as Line OF Defense, the graphics just immediately turned me away, even Face OF Mankind had better graphics and it is closed down now.

    Like come on League OF Legends is a free 2 play moba, and at least they know how to design character models.

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,078
    I like all the smooth LoD gameplay that can be seen in Jim´s quickplay of it..




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    This have been a good conversation

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member RarePosts: 6,204
    tawess said:
    I like all the smooth LoD gameplay that can be seen in Jim´s quickplay of it..





    LMAO!  Pretty much sums it all up really when it comes to Derek Smart's games.


    Just pretty much reinforces what a complete clown and joke he is in the game industry.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,109
    edited September 2015
    Mr. Smart has made a lot of valid points. Forget your personal opinions of him just look at the facts.
    That is the way i look at it and the way everyone should look at it.

    The game is never about Derek nor should it be,but ideas and the business should ALWAYS be scrutinized,we are talking about other people's money and ZERO accountability.

    If this was his own money,then nobody should care less what is going on,i know i wouldn't care,however this is not the case and he is also bound by almost no laws either which makes it all the worse.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member RarePosts: 6,204
    edited September 2015
    Wizardry said:
    Mr. Smart has made a lot of valid points. Forget your personal opinions of him just look at the facts.
    That is the way i look at it and the way everyone should look at it.

    The game is never about Derek nor should it be,but ideas and the business should ALWAYS be scrutinized,we are talking about other people's money and ZERO accountability.

    If this was his own money,then nobody should care less what is going on,i know i wouldn't care,however this is not the case and he is also bound by almost no laws either which makes it all the worse.

    Derek Smart should keep his mouth shut and look in the mirror!


    Come on now!


    This clown releases yet another broken, buggy, unfinished game, takes people's money and gets away with it, because he uses the Early Access excuse! and can so avoid giving out refunds himself!

    A year later, the game is still in Early Access and just as broken, unfinished and buggy as hell!!
    Talk about ZERO accountability! /facepalm!

    Just give it some more time until he bails out again and add yet another game on his list of failed projects!


    This clown has ZERO integrity himself, is utterly toxic in the game industry and all he is good at is attacking other developers who are actually successful!

    What a pitiful, sad individual Derek Smart is! Has accomplished absolutely nothing himself! Ever!
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Wizardry said:
    Mr. Smart has made a lot of valid points. Forget your personal opinions of him just look at the facts.
    That is the way i look at it and the way everyone should look at it.

    The game is never about Derek nor should it be,but ideas and the business should ALWAYS be scrutinized,we are talking about other people's money and ZERO accountability.

    If this was his own money,then nobody should care less what is going on,i know i wouldn't care,however this is not the case and he is also bound by almost no laws either which makes it all the worse.
    I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "zero accountability". I'm not even sure you understand the term. You obviously have no idea about the project, are not a backer, and have done little to no research other than listening to what Derek Smart has said and taking his word as the word of God. 

    SC has actually been very accountable. All you really had to do was visit their website. They have plenty of information about what they're working on, what they're project plans are, etc., etc. So if you mean that you they are "not accountable" because they don't respond to empty threats and speculative information, then I suppose they aren't accountable. However, it should be noted that ZERO companies respond to speculative information, rumours, etc. The majority of the SC community is happy and wouldn't even ask for a refund (based on community polls) so why are we even still talking about this? Oh yeah!!! Because of Derek Smart and his continuing saga to free us from the evil that is SC. Reality: Derek Smart hearts SC and is so jelly that he is just bashing them because he wants to be them. I'm not sure why you don't feel like this thread is not about Derek Smart. Haven't you figured it out yet? Everything that Derek Smart says is about Derek Smart. He probably even talks in third person because he loves hearing his name so much. 

    Anyway, point is that SC is very accountable and I have an inbox full of emails of status updates which points to that FACT. The only other FACT here is that Derek should be concentrating on making his own game better, because it's horrible. That's a FACT. 


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  • CannyoneCannyone Member UncommonPosts: 266
    While I don't agree with all of the design decisions that CIG (and Chris Roberts) makes.  I'm willing to wait and see how Star Citizen turns out.  And the reason, for me personally, is simple:  Freelancer and Wing Commander were two of my favorite computer games.  

    Were they perfect in every way?  Uh I didn't notice.  I was too busy having fun.  Were some of the sequels "less than stellar" ?  Yeah, but lots of games have been that way over the years.  That's just the way this industry is...

    Who is Darek Smart?  The name sounds vaguely familiar.  But I can't pin the name to anything of significance.   Still from reading the the opening post of this thread.  All I can hear is someone with a grudge.  Other than that I'm not sure.  

    Perhaps some injustice was done to this person.  Or, just as likely, they are a complete troll.  So, no matter what happens with Star Citizen, all I can say for sure is that I'll never post in this thread again.  

    Have a great day!
  • ArawulfArawulf Guest WriterMember UncommonPosts: 596
    edited September 2015
    Mr. Smart has made a lot of valid points. Forget your personal opinions of him just look at the facts.
    The fact is that Derek Smart, as a competing game developer, is not in a position to represent the community. When reading someone's arguments, you first must know who is making them and what motive they may have for doing so. No argument is made in a vacuum.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 9,539
    edited September 2015
    Cloud Imperium Games has of course already sent a reply to DS lawyers. Contrary to DS  CIG does not feel the need to post legal matters to the whole internet. DS is already planning a new blog about it. So far DS has posted a part of the CIG message:

    “Your client’s defamatory claims are entirely without merit and include unfounded allegations that the funds raised for the project were used improperly, even fraudulently. In this vain, your client is now asking for a “forensic accounting” to be made available to him. Firstly, there is obviously no legal basis for your client’s request and your letter cites no such authority. Secondly, the ample information provided regularly on our extensive website, including monthly progress reports from each studio, published headcounts and the like, would enable any person familiar with the cost of game development to assess the proper spending of the funds raised. Your client claims to be such an experienced person, so we are a bit perplexed about this demand coming in particular from him.

    In sum, your client’s allegations and demands are completely without basis and hereby rejected in their entirety.”

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/interstellar-breach/#comment-1624

    In summary, CIG (specifically Ortwin Freyermuth) told DS to "Bring It". Ortwin Freyermuth  is Co-Founder of CIG and a lawyer by profession.


    Have fun


    PS:
    Remember those words from DS blog ?
    "...Chris, in your case however, I made the exception because you’re a lying, fraudulent, egotistical, asshole...."
    DS has changed his blog in the meantime and removed those words (someone seems to have talked some sense into him back then), but that wont help him much. When DS sues CIG, i am very much looking forward to Chris Roberts counter-sueing DS for slander (see old DS blogs). Or Sandi Gardiner counter-sueing DS for doxing (which DS confessed to in his own blogs).


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  • unclemounclemo Member UncommonPosts: 462
    I hope Derek Smart gets sued and loses.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 9,539
    About the topic of Star Citizen refunds so often mentioned by DS:

    "A spokesperson for Cloud Imperium said that a total of 1,269 refunds have so far been given out, with 93 refunds since the beginning of July. "

    Thats 1269 out of 760.031 or  0,17 %.

    http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/20/9180067/star-citizen-backers-claiming-refunds-are-getting-their-money-back

    Polygon has another long article, well written  (although the title is clearly clickbait). Also mentions DS.

    http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/8/31/9211969/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-star-citizen

    From my personal experience ... people I know asked for a refund because they were in financial trouble and needed the money. CIG gave him his money back after an e-mail which explained the reason why he asked for a refund. I guess a significant portion of those 1269 refunds is made up of such cases.

    CIG have always given refunds since 2012 if you give them a good reason and explanation. CIG does not give refunds because of anything DS has said or done - thats just in DS imagination.


    Have fun
  • YanocchiYanocchi Member UncommonPosts: 660
    Someone should make a spoof youtube video "Smart vs Roberts - There will be blood".

    Derek Smart:

    DRAINAGE!!! DRRAINAGE, Chris, you boy!

    If you have a MMO space-sim and I have a MMO space-sim.
    And I have an online presence... that's the online presence, you see... watch it...
    And my online presence reaches acroooss the Internet, and starts to drain your MMO space-sim,
    I drain your space-sim! I DRAIN IT UP!!!




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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,080
    Yanocchi said:
    Someone should make a spoof youtube video "Smart vs Roberts - There will be blood".

    Derek Smart:

    DRAINAGE!!! DRRAINAGE, Chris, you boy!

    If you have a MMO space-sim and I have a MMO space-sim.
    And I have an online presence... that's the online presence, you see... watch it...
    And my online presence reaches acroooss the Internet, and starts to drain your MMO space-sim,
    I drain your space-sim! I DRAIN IT UP!!!




    Chris.... phooowhewww.....  Come to the dark side.....

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

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