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General: John Smedley Steps Down as CEO of Daybreak Game Company

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,760
    Originally posted by Mendel
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle

    Ya DGC stand on bring back sunset games has been firm, just not happening. Will the new CEO feel the same way? My guess would be yes but we can hope =-)

    I wonder, is it potition time.??

    I would wait for the new CEO to get the job first =-) Maybe wait a week after he starts, long enough for him to be active at the job and want to get a feel for what the fans want. Before that, someone else could sweep that under the rug. 

    Forget a petition.  It's time to apply for the job opening.  I've just sent my resume, how about you, Nan?

    LOL, not my dream job. I dont like a job that has a label where gamers hate me no matter what good I have done. Where all they care to bring up is my mistakes. If you get the job can you hire me as a developer on EQN? 



  • LtldoggLtldogg Member UncommonPosts: 271
    This is a good move.  John Smedley is very unprofessional, immature and was a poor leader of both SOE and DBG.
  • PyukPyuk Member UncommonPosts: 749
    He's a giant man-child. He should have been ousted a long time ago. Hopefully Russel Shanks(sp?) will do a better job leading that company and not act like a petulant child when things don't go exactly as planned. I guess that depends on how many yes-men he surrounds himself with, though. 

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,156
    Originally posted by Ltldogg
    This is a good move.  John Smedley is very unprofessional, immature and was a poor leader of both SOE and DBG.

    i take it you are a former SOE eomployee? 

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  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,797

    I don't know how he was able to keep his job so long at SOE.  He took a company that was the undisputed top dog of it's industry and ran it straight into the ground.  I don't think he was ever good for MMOs.  They got lucky with EQ and that was probably in large part because Smedley didn't know enough about MMOs yet at that point to mess it up.  The more he thought he knew the more he screwed games up.

    My personal conspiracy theory is that he had some dirt on one of the big-wigs at Sony that he used to keep himself from being fired.  That's pure speculation on my part but I can't understand how else he managed to keep his job so long.  Once SOE was sold off and wasn't owned by Sony anymore his ace-in-the-hole no longer had any power and his days where numbered.  I rather doubt if his "re-assignment" had much to do with this recent fuss.  I'm sure it was coming anyway.

    Unfortunately the entire MMO industry is so lost in the dark at this point I don't have much hope of things improving any time in the near future. Also, I stick to my earlier prediction that Daybreak game company itself will cease to exist sometime in the next two or three years.

  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,612

    I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they pulled him into the office and told him he was out. I would  be willing to bet you could hear his tirade 2 floors down. 

    I saw this guys rage at a EQ fan at a SOE fan faire once and knew it was just a matter of time.

  • BlazefireBlazefire Member UncommonPosts: 44

    I wish you the best of luck Smed... sorry you had to go through all that personal crap from haters. I might not of agreed with every decision you have made over the years, but I appreciate your risk taking to try and push the online game genre forward.

    I might not post often, but I've been playing MMORPG's since the first EQ, and I lurk around on these forums almost daily. The amount of hate that a lot of you send towards people like Smed, and also McQuaid, makes me sick at times. We all need to remember that these people are human and are not going to be perfect. Maybe instead of nitpicking every single mistake that is made to the point that mass hate is generated towards people like Smed, we should be grateful that we have the opportunities to play these games at all. Risks must be taken in order for things to move forward and progress, we should respect those who take risks not scorn them. I personally found it refreshing to see someone who wasn't afraid to speak their mind, regardless of their position within a company. The amount of tip toeing around issues and this PR spun - always gotta be politically correct - BS that occurs in today's world is absolutely ridiculous! All so someone who is just looking a reason to get mad in the first place isn't offended. More people should speak their mind like Smed, I think the world would be better off...

    Anyways, I'll crawl back into my hole and continue to go back into lurk mode now that I've spoken my mind on this issue... lol.

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member RarePosts: 3,410
    Have a well earned break and sort this stuff out with LQ then come back to DBG with an new position in the company. Sounds like a bit of a holiday. Look forward to having back at the helm in some capacity.




  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by Ltldogg
    This is a good move.  John Smedley is very unprofessional, immature and was a poor leader of both SOE and DBG.

    i take it you are a former SOE eomployee? 

    Doubtful, if he had been the whole thing would have had to have been censored image

  • TokkenTokken Member RarePosts: 2,208

    Yes, this was way overdue. I never understood how someone with his temperament was the manager of anything. I think his comments on twitter showed how frustrated he really was......... he is worn out I think. And, he has worn out his welcome at Daybreak!

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    And there was much rejoicing.

     

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  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    Originally posted by h0urg1ass

    Ten years too late.

    Amazing to me that destroying several games didn't result in his removal, but 140 characters or less in today's absurdly PC world could.

    This to me is the truth of the matter as well. Not enough of what this man was doing on a weekly/monthly basis was even covered by the news sites like these. Apparently people can turn a blind eye if the hype is large enough for the IP you're behind the wheel of and SOE has been full of hype for years now with very little substance to back things up. I don't in any way condone the actions of DDOS punks who mistakenly call themselves hackers but at the same time it's smart NOT to provoke anyone. duh.

  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,168

    Best thing he could've done for Daybreak really.

     

    I wish him the best in other pursuits. May God bless him greatly in any field NOT video game related.

  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 Member UncommonPosts: 2,770
    Don't worry, he will be back after the vacation.
  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862

    I literally LOL'd at work when I saw this title.

    I didn't really play any of the games he was involved in so I can't really say anything either way, but seems like he brought this on himself taunting a bunch of script kiddies.

  • LegendCarissoLegendCarisso Member UncommonPosts: 99

    ....Only thing that comes to mind.

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,156
    Originally posted by nbtscan

    I literally LOL'd at work when I saw this title.

    I didn't really play any of the games he was involved in so I can't really say anything either way, but seems like he brought this on himself taunting a bunch of script kiddies.

     

    TO be fait it was the script-kiddies that "started it" with the constant ddos-ing and then it just escalated from there. After all if someone called in a bomb-threat on you, posted pics of your parents defaced graves and made very personal threats to you,... You would be fairly pissed too. 

     

    Not saying that acting like a douche on the web should not be answered in the same... But what LS did was in essence taking a baseball bat to someone for them bragging that they made awesome helmets. There are proper levels of resonse and then there is "loco for coco-puffs while putting your underpants on your head over reaction" guess what i think LS did. 

     

    No i do not agree with all the choices smed have done over the years... But this insane over reacting have to stop... I know a little whiff of power can be very intoxicating. But the number of times that destroying someones life or threaten them with bodily harm are a valid form of argument can be counted on a maimed hands five fingers. 

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  • justmemyselfandijustmemyselfandi Member UncommonPosts: 559
    If Sony had gotten some brains and some balls years earlier and dumped this dipwad on his ass then, SOE would still be an existing and viable company making them money.
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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    What really makes me sad is to see how people are responding to this.

    I might have felt he made strange decissions, might not have agreed with many things he has done. But he was still one of the few CEO's that actually was closer to us gamers then most who sit on their high horses and hardly speak out.

    Actually I feel a part ashamed to be a gamer seeing some of the responses people placed all over the forums.

    Wish JS best of luck and hope he stay's in the industrie, the industrie he helped building, without him this genre would have been completely different and for sure there would have not been a WoW.

  • goemoegoemoe Member UncommonPosts: 222

    Wow... this is great news! Jon Smedley has been of the most narrow minded gaming CEOs ever. His ideas have been paramount. He did not value other ideas but his own. I have read quite some interviews with him and he has made this point clear more than once.

    Without him, EQNext might really have a chance to become a great game and even get some advertising. JS always told us: games don't need advertising :rolleyes:

  • SandboxSandbox Member UncommonPosts: 295
    I don't really care now, it's ten years to late.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Sandbox
    I don't really care now, it's ten years to late.

    At least, once the damage has been done, does it really matter whether or not he's in charge? at this point DBC is probably doomed regardless.image
     

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by goemoe

    Wow... this is great news! Jon Smedley has been of the most narrow minded gaming CEOs ever. His ideas have been paramount. He did not value other ideas but his own. I have read quite some interviews with him and he has made this point clear more than once.

    I have never once gotten that impression from any interview I have read or conversation I have had with him. Can you link to an article or interview you read that led you to that conclusion?

     

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Ganksinatra
    Originally posted by DelCabon
    Way overdue. Never understood how someone with his temperament was the manager of anything. Kudos he made it as far as he did but it was inevitable that he would be the instrument of his own undoing.

     

    Yeah. Weird how they would allow a man who has made them billions of dollars to stick around despite having a big mouth. It's almost like they're in business to make money, not friends.....

    What makes you think he made Sony billions of dollars?

    The last 10 years of SOE were marked by failed projects, dozen+ cancelled games, entire studios closed down, failed acquisitions, multiple rounds of 100+ employee layoffs, etc etc.

     

    Keeping Smed around is pretty much the reason SOE wasn't making money for the last 10 years. 

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon

    Lol some of you in your pathetic hate are not reading it properly. He hasn't left the company he has taken time off and a position will be made avaliable on his return. 

    Get some rest John then come back fresh. 

    John has been fired from his CEO position and his employers are seeking his replacement.  . 

    If he returns, and that is a big if, just what demoted position do you think he is going to be allowed to occupy and how "fresh" do you think he is going to be not running the company he built?

     

    If you were Columbus Nova, what value do you see in having John Smedly in charge of anything at your company?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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