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MOBA is now 24% of the MMO Category!
nariusseldon
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https://www.superdataresearch.com/market-data/mmo-market/
and i quote
"The success of MOBA titles indicates a subtle but important shift in the way people like to play online. Offering the same fast paced action as first-person shooter games, MOBAs have quickly become one of the most popular game genres worldwide, growing their share of the overall MMO category from 16% to 24% in just the last year."
Also of interests
"as World of Warcraft now also offers microtransactions and a partial free-to-play component. It is a sign that things are changing, especially for the major publishers, when a company like Activision retires Titan and, instead, doubles down on Heroes of the Storm."
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To be honest ... i don't play MOBAs myself .. although the camera is not the problem. I just don't like e-sports that much.
But I can't deny they are popular.
Except Mobas are not mmos
The "official" definition of an moba:
Multiplayer online battle arena(MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), originated as a subgenre of the real-time strategy (RTS) genre of video games, in which a player controls a single character in one of two teams.
The "official" definition of an mmorpg:
Massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs) blend the genres of role-playing video games and massively multiplayer online games, potentially in the form of web browser-based games, in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a world.
I could post 100s of articles where the compare only mmos vs mmos and others that compare Mobas to Mobas. Just because you found one doesn't means it's accurate. Nice try though.
you did not get the memo? "massively" is irrelevant to many .. reviewers, industry sites, MMO sites ... in MMO.
What surprises me is the report implies MOBA as a sub-genre of MMO.
"their share of the overall MMO category"
This could get Interesting.
edit: Blah, beat me to it. More typing, less smoking my pipe.
It is already there .. MOBAs are MMOs. World of Tank type instanced pvp games are MMOs. Co-op RPgs are MMOs.
MMO sites need to drive traffic to survive.
Don't really understand what is "Massive" in a MOBA since it's listed as a MMORPG. A 5 vs 5 arena is hardly massive by any means. The repetitive nature of the gameplay and lack of an endgame except getting better at slaughtering things in the same area over and over. PVP veterans have fled to this genre because of the more controlled and balanced PVP taking place in these arenas. MMOs should learn from this and place players on an equal footing when they enter a pvp territory.
MOBAs are easier to get into. The skillcap is often very high and it doesn't require the same updating pace as a MMORPG. With that being said making a MOBA balanced and fun to play is a challenge to say the least. It used to be a very niche game when it first came out. Nowadays its what most people think of when you say that you're into gaming.
Personally I've never been able to get very into it since I don't appreciate the repetitive nature of the game. But each to their own. MOBAs can learn MMORPG developers today how to develop balanced and fun PVP. That if anything is a big plus to me.
you did not get the memo? "massively" is irrelevant to many .. reviewers, industry sites, MMO sites ... in MMO.
Oh I would love to see this "memo" I'm sure everyone else would too. Please post a link to this "memo".It occurs to me that it's just the morons at "superdataresearch" that don't seem to know the difference between massive and massively. No one else seams to be confused about it.
I'm with Nariusseldon, here. Call the games this site covers 'Floyds' or 'Quvveristical' or 'MMOs', its just a matter of semantics, really. The definition of words change over time, and what we once knew as MMOs has changed. Now it encompasses a variety of games, not just UO, EQ and AC. The change in the scope of what this site chooses to cover certainly doesn't hurt anyone, or force them to play a game they don't want to play. Drawing eyes to their page is how they live.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Players will either complain the art sucks, or they'll complain the zoom is too close. Typically art wins out, since few games are willing to look ugly for the sake of a bigger zoom. (Supreme Commander isn't necessarily a bad game, but it definitely looks awful since 95% of the time you're zoomed out so far that everything is some abstract unit icon, rather than seeing the units themselves.)
Also forcing the view close in increases the skill involved. Camera manipulation often isn't the most enjoyable form of skill depth, but it does end up making these games a little deeper.
None of which changes the fact that you dislike it, of course, but at least you can understand why the decisions are made.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
By the definition supported in this thread, MMORPG.com should be covering The Last of Us, Titanfall, Call of Duty, Battlefield, GTA, or any other game with multiplayer. They don't, because the line drawn is arbitrary and based simply on marketers trying to build hype and poach players from MMORPGs into their genre. I don't blame the marketers; there are no written rules saying you can't do what they do. However, you'd think the administrators of sites that were built upon covering MMORPGs would at least have the integrity to say, "Hey, this is not an MMO, but we think you guys might enjoy playing it anyways.. We do!"
Alas, they usually just avoid the issue or respond with non-answers like a politician.
Also, narius:
The definition of words can change, but not when those words are an acronym that spells out, verbatim, "massively multiplayer online."
When you talk about MOBAs it becomes even more literal: Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. Notice how it includes MO but not MMO? Well it's a 5v5 arena, so obviously that's done on purpose.
Can't we just think for a moment, and admit the raw absurdity of calling non-massive games MMOs?
When a shirt is blue, call it a blue shirt -- I don't care if you run YellowShirts.com, the shirt isn't yellow. (And with "yellow" at least there's some amount of (potential) vagueness to the word. It's not literally spelling out its meaning.)
When a game isn't massive, call it a MOBA or an RTS or a FPS or an RPG.
...you do realize that if every game is considered a MMO the term becomes useless right?
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
You have way more restraint than I do, JLP.
Also, I'm still waiting on an effective answer to my counter-argument, which no one has provided.
You could equally call it chunky multiplayer online or big multiplayer onlIne. To make it more relevant it should be massively-instance multiplayer online. It's all just generalisations, what matters is the end of the name / that's where the meaning is, bo, rpg, fps etc.
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It's cute that with over 22,000 posts you think he is going to stop trolling if people stop answering him.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Anywaaaays since when are MOBAs MMORPGs. Also I hate the word MOBA. It was made up to refer to that abomination called "LOL" which was made for people who wanted dumbed down DOTA.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena
Check wikipedia's definition. MOBAs are a subgenre of RTS games. I don't care what some "industry/MMO" sites say since they are god forgotten little websites. Wikipedia on the other hand! Well you can't argue with online encyclopedia which is almost as accurate as Britannica ;D
But if we are going to call every game known to man kind a MMORPG, then lets go and play Skyrim. That sure is hell is an MMORPG too!
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