Why is nobody covering Ark: Survival Evovled?

Gravarg · May 2015

This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

Gestankfaust · May 2015

Originally posted by Gravarg
This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

For starters...it's releasing June 2nd....and I just saw the game a week ago. Bad publicity? I saw the videos....Tribes all over again? Didn't I read that you play on paid servers like CoD or BF? So not an MMO?

I dunno....it looks good, but not the kind of game that gets too hyped if it's not a true MMO around here

Gravarg · June 2015

Originally posted by Gestankfaust
Originally posted by Gravarg
This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

For starters...it's releasing June 2nd....and I just saw the game a week ago. Bad publicity? I saw the videos....Tribes all over again? Didn't I read that you play on paid servers like CoD or BF? So not an MMO?

I dunno....it looks good, but not the kind of game that gets too hyped if it's not a true MMO around here

It's more MMO than some games on this site hehe. You can have upto 100 players in a game at the same time. Which isn't massive, but other than major city hubs you don't see more than 100 players around anyways hehe. I think the servers work like Life is Feudal: Your Own, they're player run.

Heretique · June 2015

I'll be picking up the early access. Been following it for a bit, looks great. Hope it plays great.

sketocafe · June 2015

I liked how it looked until I saw Dino mounts. It just kind of turned me off on it. It's cool to imagine banding together with some friends with wooden spears and taking down a triceratops so you can all eat. It's less cool when a group of other players cruise by afterwards riding T-Rexes. If you're going to have dinosaurs, make them complete badasses. Don't do anything to trivialize them.

DarLorkar · June 2015

Originally posted by Gravarg
This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

Because of this maybe?

Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

I for one do not do EA games. I mean how much more upfront can they be? Buy a game that they have zero need to do anything else to and you can do absolutely nothing about.

Once they have everyone's cash...no rules or law to make them do anything else. Just such a bad way to do business for the gamers. Really hate that places do this now. As long as places like Steam get their cut...who cares right?

Might be a good game some day...but who can say? Might be unplayable too and nothing we can do about it.

Dullahan · June 2015

Originally posted by DarLorkar
Originally posted by Gravarg
This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

Because of this maybe?

Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

I for one do not do EA games. I mean how much more upfront can they be? Buy a game that they have zero need to do anything else to and you can do absolutely nothing about.

Once they have everyone's cash...no rules or law to make them do anything else. Just such a bad way to do business for the gamers. Really hate that places do this now. As long as places like Steam get their cut...who cares right?

Might be a good game some day...but who can say? Might be unplayable too and nothing we can do about it.

Problem with that line of thinking is, if no one buys into early access, it probably has no chance of being a good game some day.

I don't buy in early or kickstart many games, but its pretty ludicrous to suggest that its a bad thing. While its not always the case, usually indie companies trying to make games actually want to make the most quality product possible, because they will make much more money finishing the game than they will from the few early backers in an alpha/beta. Since its not always the case, its up to the company to do a good job explaining and demonstrating their ideas and capabilities, and for the player to objectively decide whether its worth their time/money to invest.

This broad brush dismissive attitude towards indie games and early access has to stop. A handful of bad apples and failed kickstarters does not reflect the benefit these platforms have had on the gaming industry.

DrunkWolf · June 2015

Originally posted by DarLorkar
Originally posted by Gravarg
This game looks incredible. Come June 2nd, I'll 100% be buying this game. I wish sites would cover it, but you can barely find any information on it. The most information I've found on it was by following the Devs on Twitter. I'd love to know more, like the crafting trees and such. Hopefully after the 2nd there will be tons of information coming out, and I'll be playing it. I hope it's like Rust or Life is Feudal with dinosaurs, that's like my dream game lol.

Because of this maybe?

Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

I for one do not do EA games. I mean how much more upfront can they be? Buy a game that they have zero need to do anything else to and you can do absolutely nothing about.

Once they have everyone's cash...no rules or law to make them do anything else. Just such a bad way to do business for the gamers. Really hate that places do this now. As long as places like Steam get their cut...who cares right?

Might be a good game some day...but who can say? Might be unplayable too and nothing we can do about it.

I understand where your coming from on this, but these days what game comes out complete? i cant think of a single MMO that has come out in the last few years that wasnt in a beta state with tons of stuff broken and promises of adding content in later patchs that they promised would be in the release.

at least they are flat out saying its not complete and if you want to wait then go ahead and wait.

every other game i see comes out trys to piss down my back and tell me its raining.

Oh and the game looks pretty cool.

kenpokiller · June 2015

Waitiing for invite

Dakeru · June 2015

Originally posted by Dullahan
Problem with that line of thinking is, if no one buys into early access, it probably has no chance of being a good game some day.

I don't buy in early or kickstart many games, but its pretty ludicrous to suggest that its a bad thing.

No, absolutely not a problem with his way of thinking.

It's the company's job to provide a good product that people are willing to pay for.

It's completely moronic to think that people have to first hand over the money so that the dev MAY create a good product.

klash2def · June 2015

Originally posted by sketocafe
I liked how it looked until I saw Dino mounts. It just kind of turned me off on it. It's cool to imagine banding together with some friends with wooden spears and taking down a triceratops so you can all eat. It's less cool when a group of other players cruise by afterwards riding T-Rexes. If you're going to have dinosaurs, make them complete badasses. Don't do anything to trivialize them.

there are dino mounts in wow.

MrSnuffles · June 2015

Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Problem with that line of thinking is, if no one buys into early access, it probably has no chance of being a good game some day.

I don't buy in early or kickstart many games, but its pretty ludicrous to suggest that its a bad thing.

No, absolutely not a problem with his way of thinking.

It's the company's job to provide a good product that people are willing to pay for.

It's completely moronic to think that people have to first hand over the money so that the dev MAY create a good product.

Could not have said it better and if more people stop throwing money at unfinished games we might eventually see developers go back to releasing feature complete games that work.

It is ridiculous to think that buying a broken product with the promise of it being eventually working should be okay because it's a game or Software and they can fix it later. There is a reason why this does not wok with physical products and the same applies to Software.

MrSnuffles · June 2015

Why is nobody covering Ark: Survival Evovled?

Because of the 3 strike rule:

It is Early Access
It is a Survival game
It was tried before and failed.

CrazKanuk · June 2015

Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Problem with that line of thinking is, if no one buys into early access, it probably has no chance of being a good game some day.

I don't buy in early or kickstart many games, but its pretty ludicrous to suggest that its a bad thing.

No, absolutely not a problem with his way of thinking.

It's the company's job to provide a good product that people are willing to pay for.

It's completely moronic to think that people have to first hand over the money so that the dev MAY create a good product.

That's not true at all. There are plenty of things you buy sight-unseen, especially services. The fact that the consumer can have a direct impact on the market now is awesome. There's absolutely nothing moronic about it. I'll bet you've paid for at least 1 thing this year that you didn't know whether or not you were getting something quality or not.

vcdragoon · June 2015

I'll be playing tomorrow.

People don't need to keep living in the past and having selective memories on top of that sort of neolithic vision. The so-called "games that work" haven't been the norm in the last 15 years; most games needed patch on top of patch after the official release dates. To compare rather simple games of the past to modern games is like comparing flintlock muskets to modern tanks. Stuff has come a long way, and in that increased level of complexity and technology has required greater funding. Most games in the past did not require the sheer amount of capital modern games do.

People can and should talk with their wallets. And the wallets are currently saying that being involved in a project during EA is perfectly fine for a vast majority of gamers. With modern funding being the way it is, that's the only way we're going to get games that we want.

Also, people actually do have to hand over money so companies may develop a good product, or any product at all. It's just that now instead of venture capitalists or an established studio like in the past, a portion of that funding comes from customers who are pre-purchasing products. Yeah, it involves a risk. Yeah, you don't have to if you don't want to. But if someone doesn't, some of these independent studios won't make it. And if people want to support them in this way, there's nothing wrong with that.

Another point...you haven't even played the product yet. How do you even know that it's broken or lacks promised features? Who knows, maybe it does. But as long as it's fun, who cares if the dinosaur I want hasn't made it into the game yet? And even if it's broken, so what? I'll treat it like a meal that wasn't quite right at a new restaurant that just opened. It's entertainment, not life or death. Some of us like getting into places when they just open, even if they haven't gotten the training quite right or the lighting might be a bit off.

And that's just ok with me.

vcdragoon · June 2015

Originally posted by MrSnuffles
Why is nobody covering Ark: Survival Evovled?

Because of the 3 strike rule:

It is Early Access

It is a Survival game

It was tried before and failed.

I'm not sure why the 3rd point matters about a different product by a different studio.

At least the first 2 points are valid.

Dullahan · June 2015

Originally posted by vcdragoon
I'll be playing tomorrow.

People don't need to keep living in the past and having selective memories on top of that sort of neolithic vision. The so-called "games that work" haven't been the norm in the last 15 years; most games needed patch on top of patch after the official release dates. To compare rather simple games of the past to modern games is like comparing flintlock muskets to modern tanks. Stuff has come a long way, and in that increased level of complexity and technology has required greater funding. Most games in the past did not require the sheer amount of capital modern games do.

People can and should talk with their wallets. And the wallets are currently saying that being involved in a project during EA is perfectly fine for a vast majority of gamers. With modern funding being the way it is, that's the only way we're going to get games that we want.

Also, people actually do have to hand over money so companies may develop a good product, or any product at all. It's just that now instead of venture capitalists or an established studio like in the past, a portion of that funding comes from customers who are pre-purchasing products. Yeah, it involves a risk. Yeah, you don't have to if you don't want to. But if someone doesn't, some of these independent studios won't make it. And if people want to support them in this way, there's nothing wrong with that.

Another point...you haven't even played the product yet. How do you even know that it's broken or lacks promised features? Who knows, maybe it does. But as long as it's fun, who cares if the dinosaur I want hasn't made it into the game yet? And even if it's broken, so what? I'll treat it like a meal that wasn't quite right at a new restaurant that just opened. It's entertainment, not life or death. Some of us like getting into places when they just open, even if they haven't gotten the training quite right or the lighting might be a bit off.

And that's just ok with me.

Exactly. People just aren't paying attention. Until small games start making money again, investors aren't going to be taking nearly the risks that we've seen in the past. Theres been too many hundreds of millions wasted in the last decade on games that offered horrible ROI.

Get a clue people and pull your head from the sand.

DarkVagabond · June 2015

Originally posted by MrSnuffles
Why is nobody covering Ark: Survival Evovled?

Because of the 3 strike rule:

It is Early Access

It is a Survival game

It was tried before and failed.

The stomping land didn't fail based on the genre or destribution method, it failed because of people.

DarLorkar · June 2015

Originally posted by vcdragoon
I'll be playing tomorrow.

People don't need to keep living in the past and having selective memories on top of that sort of neolithic vision. The so-called "games that work" haven't been the norm in the last 15 years; most games needed patch on top of patch after the official release dates. To compare rather simple games of the past to modern games is like comparing flintlock muskets to modern tanks. Stuff has come a long way, and in that increased level of complexity and technology has required greater funding. Most games in the past did not require the sheer amount of capital modern games do.

People can and should talk with their wallets. And the wallets are currently saying that being involved in a project during EA is perfectly fine for a vast majority of gamers. With modern funding being the way it is, that's the only way we're going to get games that we want.

Also, people actually do have to hand over money so companies may develop a good product, or any product at all. It's just that now instead of venture capitalists or an established studio like in the past, a portion of that funding comes from customers who are pre-purchasing products. Yeah, it involves a risk. Yeah, you don't have to if you don't want to. But if someone doesn't, some of these independent studios won't make it. And if people want to support them in this way, there's nothing wrong with that.

Another point...you haven't even played the product yet. How do you even know that it's broken or lacks promised features? Who knows, maybe it does. But as long as it's fun, who cares if the dinosaur I want hasn't made it into the game yet? And even if it's broken, so what? I'll treat it like a meal that wasn't quite right at a new restaurant that just opened. It's entertainment, not life or death. Some of us like getting into places when they just open, even if they haven't gotten the training quite right or the lighting might be a bit off.

And that's just ok with me.

Most idiotic crap i ever read...throw money at something and pray?

If it turns out to be a waste so what?

Exactly what is wrong with gamers today. Have zero regard for making sure we hold dev's accountable for the crap they hand out.

EA you have NO recourse AT ALL. They do not have to deliver anything that works or is decent . Just pitch some graphics at you people and you line up to throw cash at them and freaking pray that it turns out ok.

And we wonder why we keep getting such crap...I really do want to cry for how stupid people are getting today. Getting fed these bad games is now the frigging NORM...pay up front and pray for a decent game later...if they feel like fixing it...

All you people are doing is making a bad situation worse and worse...what ever happened to common sense?

We lived through the era of game after game releasing as broken messes...then they come out with the idea of not even having to have a full broken game to release..just pitch and idea and you folks lap it up.

Biggest con in the dang world and yall not only take it and ask for more...you praise them for it...

Good game, bad game, indie, or not. None of that matters...making it so people have absolutely no recourse when they get scammed or end up with a bad product, is such a terrible idea. If you really can not see that...

meonthissite · June 2015

that's part of the problem with sites like these and publishers when something great comes out it's almost never covered but when something mediocre comes out that claims to be different but it's more of the same nonsense then they are all over it.

I hope it's a success!

YashaX · June 2015

Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by Dullahan
Problem with that line of thinking is, if no one buys into early access, it probably has no chance of being a good game some day.

I don't buy in early or kickstart many games, but its pretty ludicrous to suggest that its a bad thing.

No, absolutely not a problem with his way of thinking.

It's the company's job to provide a good product that people are willing to pay for.

It's completely moronic to think that people have to first hand over the money so that the dev MAY create a good product.

I have to totally agree with Dakeru here, EA/crowd funding and the like are a cheap way for indie developers to get funds, but it is definitely a disturbing precedent for consumers.

DraconianX · June 2015

It's still in Alpha and right now it's just a cash grab to go with the movie release of Jurassic World. I'll wait a while so see if it actually makes a release.

moosecatlol · June 2015

Inb4 it's just orion dino beatdown 2.

Alpha_Chino · June 2015

100K people watching the streams hardly seems covert.

ElRenmazuo · June 2015

This will be the first early access game I will buy

Viper482 · June 2015

1. Not an MMO.

2. Early access.

3. Character models/animations look like LOTRO.

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