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Lacking of any Mmo at the moment I decided to play some god old WoW.
I leveled up and got in my first Hc 100 level dungeon in less than 3 days with a fresh new account.
I observed that game got easier (probably the audience wished for) and lean towards single player experience.
I had to block guild invites where I got whispered to join a guild with 600 ppl to be another droid. Because of whisper spam i blocked guild invites.
When I started hc instance I observed toxicity with delusional bad behaved kids, which i never encountered in my 4 years of vanilla.
From 3 Hc instances I finished 1 in which a full epic death knight player was bragging about the dps and being toxic comparing himself against dead afk people and blue geared ppl but he was really into it
The other 2 instances a guy just troll pulled all mobs than he quit and swear or half team just rushing to fight when half team is dead... Total brainless
What i seriously think that this new generation of kids lack of total discipline and sensitivity towards anything because of this brain washed materialistic world that we are living.
Games use to be fun with meeting up new nice ppl or teaching noobs explaining them nicely what to do. This is part of the game a tiny bit of patient is needed sometimes and if you don't like this part stop playing in pugs lol and go with your full epic guild or whatever.
From this moment I don't really hate any game companies by doing wow copy's and being uncreative and wanting only money because the audience couldn't even respect a true work at this stage.
I know I'm a bit negative this days towards mmo-s but I won't start lying to myself and the only thing I can do with my frustration is just write here down share my thoughts, maybe I am doing something wrong here.
Re edited : now i had 3 more hc instances ez finish with nice people so it's always both chance i guess, was thinking to delete this thread
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WoW has been toxic for years.
This is nothing new. I played the first few years it was out then off and on again for another year or so. Then just quit one day and havent logged in since.
Like most games you Need a good guild to really enjoy the game. If you want to play WoW search around for a guild of like minded people and play strictly with them. If you are going solo and using the LFG tools for Pugs then expect to have one bad experience after another.
Most of the assholes are actually 20+ in my experience.
Toxicity is in every single part of the internet and every online game.
As for WoW, i find it funny that when it comes to toxicity levels people call WoW the #1. Yes it has lots of toxic trolls, but i have found much more in other mmos than i have found in WoW. I think people who see WoW as the absolute most toxic mmo either havent played other mmos or they are trolls in WoW but cant handle the backlash they caused and get offended.
Love the edit.
Can't judge one game with millions and millions of players off of 1-2 bad experiences.
I've had many, many more than 1-2 bad experiences with toxic players, but I've had 10x that amount in good experiences too.
Fixed.
WoW is as toxic as other games or online communities. People just like to blame it because it's popular.
The more people you have, the more toxic it's going to be. That's human nature, especially when people are anonymous online.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
The heroics are ok, my only gripe with WoD instances is Blizz are pushing old content on us in 6.2's timewalking rather than make a batch of new instances. A Hellfire raid might be enough I suppose, but one raid a batch of new instances does not make.
The main 'toxic' thing I truly find about WoD is garrisons. I manage a few now and they are starting to become a rut. But they are good ways to make gold for WoW Tokens. Rhetorically I often ask myself should I just walk and play a f2p rather than PLEX it with a token? Life didn't seem so complicated in the Prancing Pony at Bree in Lord Of The Rings Online, I actually even enjoyed myself, heaven forbid. Should I return to that f2p? (rhetorical question) Probably not, I know I will stick around to make gold in WoW and try out 6.2's raid. But that toxicity from the garrison's, I'm melting mellllltinnnng.
If you use invite a friend you get 300% xp gain. If your friend is wearing heirlooms it goes at a much faster rate with grant a level every two levels I think. Heirlooms go to 100 now so with a friend you can quest and do dungeons+quests you can level pretty fast. The other option is instant 90 and do 10 levels.
I assume the OP levelled from 90; good going nevertheless.
As BadSpock says you can't draw this conslusion; there were idiots in WoW when it first came out. There are "idiots" in real life as well but you don't judge an entire country or whatever on a few news stories.
I am totally on-board with turning auto-invite off; means someone has to send you a tell. If you accept it you can lurk a while and then leave if it doesn't offer anything you want and so forth.
Same goes for every game. I could "suggest" that some games are better than others as well but it would simply be an impression based on my "limited" experience and wrong of me to extrapolate - one way or another.
I have to agree with OP. My first several dungeon runs at endgame were a HUGE wake up call to what kind of player base WoW has these days...even my guild members that I knew since Vanilla.
It's now become a "be epic at running a dungeon (even for the first time) or you suck and are banished to oblivion....we have no time to play catch up with you..."
I would say that FFXIV is similar but at endgame, it's not true. At endgame, you'll probably find the BEST community an MMO has to offer (FFXIV). It's the early dungeons that had alot of toxic crowds.
I would definitely say that WoW is the most toxic community I've dealt with in my time playing MMO's. Just in case you are curious, here are the games Ive done endgame dungeons in:
Age of Conan
The Secret World
FFXIV
World of Warcraft
I played Anarchy Online the most, but never made it to endgame (which is understandable)
Of those games, the best community was Age of Conan hands down. Always very helpful and understanding. It also had some of the tougher encounters and mechanics.
Yep, this kind of behavior is 100% exclusive to WoW.
Well, except that I've seen these exact same experiences in nearly every MMO I've played since 2000.
Here on MMORPG.com you will find people that agree with you because they hate WoW but everyone else knows that WoW did not invent bad behavior on the internet.
This is completely opposite of my experience. After hitting 50, I encountered group after group of raging elitists screaming at me for stopping for anything...speed rushes for more tokens!
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
That's every game ever lol. Everyone wants to get it done faster, which naturally happens after you've run a dungeon once or twice.
Kids today are taught to be mindless drones devoid of emotion.
It shouldnt come as a surprise when you put them in an unsanctioned environment that everything just spills out.
Of all the heroics / LFR's etc.. i've done in WoW on multiple toons, i've had a handful of bad random groups as opposed to the countless number of rgoups that were fine etc... generally people dont even really talk to consider them toxic, people jump in, do what they gotta do and leave...
i feel like this post is mainly to gain some traction and trying to be part of the "it" crowd.. just hang sh*t on a game that a vast majority of people hate to try and be one of the cool kids, honestly it's not... the game is fine, the community is fine, there is a probably a higher number of toxic players in general due to the fact that is has 4x the amount of players as basically most MMO's
good luck finding a new game to not really play and then make up BS stories about.
I couldn't agree more. I was going to use Tera as well for my example of the most toxic community. I play on Landroval RP server in Lotro and the community is the best of any mmo that I have played. And, now that I have most "kids" on Wyrmrest Accord WoW RP server blocked, it's not that bad now.
That's the one I'm on as well!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.