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Perfect World Co. goes private as a result of a buyout by its chairman

Don't know how many people notice this news. Since I am playing Neverwinter now I am concerned about the game as well as Cryptic's future. Anyone currently play PWE games has the same concern? 

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  • KumaponKumapon Member EpicPosts: 1,563

    This was posted in the Washington Post on Apr. 26th

    http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-NNFH8A6K50XT01-3B266QDO1G1RJ9QV9P8GJ5PED9


    Looks like he got a 900 million dollar loan from a Chinese bank to buy off all the investors, and Perfect World will be merged into a new company called Perfect Peony Holding Co., which is located in the Cayman Islands.


    Doesn't sound fishy at all. Doesn't sound fishy a siiiingle bit....lol

  • BascolaBascola Member UncommonPosts: 425
    Originally posted by Kumapon

    This was posted in the Washington Post on Apr. 26th

    http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-NNFH8A6K50XT01-3B266QDO1G1RJ9QV9P8GJ5PED9


    Looks like he got a 900 million dollar loan from a Chinese bank to buy off all the investors, and Perfect World will be merged into a new company called Perfect Peony Holding Co., which is located in the Cayman Islands.


    Doesn't sound fishy at all. Doesn't sound fishy a siiiingle bit....lol

    i concur. Big scams incoming.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Bascola
    Originally posted by Kumapon

    This was posted in the Washington Post on Apr. 26th

    http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-NNFH8A6K50XT01-3B266QDO1G1RJ9QV9P8GJ5PED9


    Looks like he got a 900 million dollar loan from a Chinese bank to buy off all the investors, and Perfect World will be merged into a new company called Perfect Peony Holding Co., which is located in the Cayman Islands.


    Doesn't sound fishy at all. Doesn't sound fishy a siiiingle bit....lol

    i concur. Big scams incoming.

    So, business as usual then in all PWE games ? image

  • bloodborne12bloodborne12 Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko
    Originally posted by Bascola
    Originally posted by Kumapon

    This was posted in the Washington Post on Apr. 26th

    http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-NNFH8A6K50XT01-3B266QDO1G1RJ9QV9P8GJ5PED9


    Looks like he got a 900 million dollar loan from a Chinese bank to buy off all the investors, and Perfect World will be merged into a new company called Perfect Peony Holding Co., which is located in the Cayman Islands.


    Doesn't sound fishy at all. Doesn't sound fishy a siiiingle bit....lol

    i concur. Big scams incoming.

    So, business as usual then in all PWE games ? image

    I doubt it. PWE had a lay-off recently. Smelling a restructuring inside the company.

  • KettzKettz Member UncommonPosts: 14

    If you've been following PWE's news you'll notice that they are starting to put more resources into mobile game development. They are making Swordsman and Forsaken World mobile versions. 

     

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Kettz

    If you've been following PWE's news you'll notice that they are starting to put more resources into mobile game development. They are making Swordsman and Forsaken World mobile versions. 

     

    Not surprising really, mobile games probably have the best ROI in the games industry. Cheap and quick to make, with the potential to earn billions.

     

    I'm sure the chairman will be trying to maximise profits to pay back that $900M loan...

  • KumaponKumapon Member EpicPosts: 1,563

    Yea that $900M loan, holy hell! For a game company. How the hell does one swing that? Are they really pulling in enough to pay that back? I bet Curt Schilling would crap his pants if he saw this.

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Originally posted by Kumapon

     I bet Curt Schilling would crap his pants if he saw this.

    That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw that $900m figure.  Poor old Curt.  Stuck in a broadcasting booth with Kruk.  Funny as hell together, though.

  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 7,919
    May be they want to develop games for the Iwatch. Lots of buyers in China with those watches or have ordered them

  • lwgt12lwgt12 Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko
    Originally posted by Kettz

    If you've been following PWE's news you'll notice that they are starting to put more resources into mobile game development. They are making Swordsman and Forsaken World mobile versions. 

     

    Not surprising really, mobile games probably have the best ROI in the games industry. Cheap and quick to make, with the potential to earn billions.

     

    I'm sure the chairman will be trying to maximise profits to pay back that $900M loan...

    Mobile games are like cash printer today. I mean in China, a mediocre mobile game can make about $5 million a month. Forsaken World's mobile version is certainly going to release in China and bring huge profits to the company.

  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141

    Gaming is no longer about providing the best experience for players.  Developers have quickly learned that people are just as interested in staring at a 4 inch screen and dragging their greasy fingers across it as they are sitting behind a 24 inch monitor with a keyboard mouse and 5.1 sound.

    Its the addiction they are delivering not the experience, and you can deliver that addiction on 4 inch monitors all day long.

  • patlefortpatlefort Member UncommonPosts: 142
    It's the casual gamers they've always wanted. They don't have much time for games and they have alot of money.
  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by goboygo

    Gaming is no longer about providing the best experience for players.  Developers have quickly learned that people are just as interested in staring at a 4 inch screen and dragging their greasy fingers across it as they are sitting behind a 24 inch monitor with a keyboard mouse and 5.1 sound.

    Its the addiction they are delivering not the experience, and you can deliver that addiction on 4 inch monitors all day long.

    Very true.

     

    And that is why the only mobile game I play is the free version of Tetris. =)

  • DijonCyanideDijonCyanide Member UncommonPosts: 586

     

      I play their Star Trek Online.  Not as much as I used to, but I still play it and it is still a good game.  Over the last year, maybe year and a half, there has been a definite change in the approach of the game.  Some of the changes I like and some not like at all.  On my paid account and because of some of the changes that affected me negatively I stopped buying in-game currency altogether.  My protesting with my wallet ... not that it matters.   I always wanted to begin their Neverwinter, but had not got to it and now wont.  There is a Asian Martial Arts themed game they have too I always planned on playing, but not planning to now for the same reasons.  I had always thought in the long term that having Star Trek Online, Neverwinter, that Martial Arts themed MMO, and if they added an apocalyptic type maybe zombie survival type game it would had been nice to have all the games in the same spot, but oh well.  Maybe this is good for their games' future and us as gamers, and maybe it is not.  They lost me as a regular Zen purchasing customer last summer.   

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,011
    Originally posted by bloodborne12

    So, business as usual then in all PWE games ? image

    I doubt it. PWE had a lay-off recently. Smelling a restructuring inside the company.

    Well, now wait a minute ... Companies lay off employees even though they do "well". But just not well enough to satisfy their projections, what analysts predict, etc.

    Heck, I was in a lay off where the company was doing fine but we missed our projections and didn't grow as much as they had anticipated. So they laid people off.

    Going public is great for getting an initial flow of cash but you do have a lot of pressure to grow and keep that stock price high.

    My thought is that they don't want that pressure anymore, they probably believe that with their current sales/income they will be doing better and can run their business better.

     

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  • maybebakedmaybebaked Member UncommonPosts: 305
    I really like Neverwinter and Star Trek Online, until you get to endgame and realize how much money you have to spend. I can see this news having a negative impact on their games, especially if they are going to concentrate on mobile like a lot of companies are trying to do these days.
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,203
    Originally posted by bloodborne12
    Don't know how many people notice this news. Since I am playing Neverwinter now I am concerned about the game as well as Cryptic's future. Anyone currently play PWE games has the same concern? 

    Not in the slightest.  It's just a computer game, as is STO, etc., and as such isn't worth breaking into a sweat over. I have a few game accounts with them but nothing I'd be bothered about deleting or losing.

  • bloodborne12bloodborne12 Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Dibdabs
    Originally posted by bloodborne12
    Don't know how many people notice this news. Since I am playing Neverwinter now I am concerned about the game as well as Cryptic's future. Anyone currently play PWE games has the same concern? 

    Not in the slightest.  It's just a computer game, as is STO, etc., and as such isn't worth breaking into a sweat over. I have a few game accounts with them but nothing I'd be bothered about deleting or losing.

    I was worried about the potential affect to the game's customer service more than losing account since I am not sure the impact the buyout has on Neverwinter.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,505
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by bloodborne12

    So, business as usual then in all PWE games ? image

    I doubt it. PWE had a lay-off recently. Smelling a restructuring inside the company.

    Well, now wait a minute ... Companies lay off employees even though they do "well". But just not well enough to satisfy their projections, what analysts predict, etc.

    Heck, I was in a lay off where the company was doing fine but we missed our projections and didn't grow as much as they had anticipated. So they laid people off.

    Going public is great for getting an initial flow of cash but you do have a lot of pressure to grow and keep that stock price high.

    My thought is that they don't want that pressure anymore, they probably believe that with their current sales/income they will be doing better and can run their business better.

     

    But what happens in many buyouts such as this is in order to pay down the loan some assets are sold off so perhaps they'll turn around and split the business up some?

     

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