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A good reason to make the H1Z1 purchase today

BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393

http://www.pcgamer.com/battle-royale-modder-brendan-greene-on-his-official-h1z1-mode/

 

 

Read that article - I give props to SOE for showing the class it takes to do this and not just implement their own version. I've been pretty critical of H1Z1, I thought why should I support this, but then after seeing this article, it's icing on the cake.

 

 

They are making improvements at the speed of light and they are open to ideas like battle royal and they are giving props where they are due, how can you not want to support something like this at this point in time. Even if you feel like you got burnt by the air drops, I think it's worth considering sweeping those emotions under the rug and realizing what's happening before our eyes. 

 

C you in game - BattleRock

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  • BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Umm Battle Royale has been in since Alpha launch.

    Not sure if you knew that.

    Almost every feature in H1Z1 is a straight copy from other survival games - air drops, ripping shirts to cloth, bandages, backpacks, everything has been borrowed from other games.

    I can't think of a single feature that is unique to H1Z1 other than higher #s of players per map.

    Don't get me wrong - I am playing and enjoying H1Z1 just fine - but giving props for straight up copying elements from other games... ?

    Ok.

     

    I was not aware of it. I need some extra sauce beyond the hype to just jump in though and finding this out did it for me. I watched enough of my hobbies just fall apart due to a lack of support. I don't just give up my cash easily though, I want H1Z1 to do well and when I find out stuff like this, I want that to happen even more.

  • Varex12Varex12 Member CommonPosts: 357
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Don't get me wrong - I am playing and enjoying H1Z1 just fine - but giving props for straight up copying elements from other games... ?

    Ok.

    This is ironic coming from someone who worships the ground Trion walks on.  There's never been a more derivative company than them.  

     

     

  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Originally posted by DMKano

    It's all good.

    If you've never played other survival games (DayZ, Rust, WarZ/Infestation, 7 Days to Die etc....) H1Z1 I am sure feels fresh and exciting.

    To me it feels like a game that I've played for 3 years already - again not saying it's bad, but there is no innovation in terms of gameplay.

    Just my 2c. 

    I'd love to see SoE actually do something that would push the survival genre forward, some true innovation- so far, other than more players per server - I am not seeing it

     

     

    Not as easy in the zombie survival sandbox genre as it sounds.  That genre's pretty specific.  They could add L4D type zombies, but it's already been done, and I would hate that direction.

     

    For me, it won't be any single feature that makes the game enjoyable.  It'll be if it has (for lack of a better term) that "Walking Dead" feel to it.

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    I can't see myself rushing to pay for beta testing a game that will be F2P when it's finally "done", and already has an up-and-running cash shop on top of that.

    I'll wait for you guys to pay to test it for me, I'll come in when it's free. Or I won't.

  • BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    I can't see myself rushing to pay for beta testing a game that will be F2P when it's finally "done", and already has an up-and-running cash shop on top of that.

    I'll wait for you guys to pay to test it for me, I'll come in when it's free. Or I won't.

    You can't view it like you're paying to beta test, you have to look at it like your supporting what is happening. 

    I have played DayZ - I like what I have experienced, but they are moving at a turtles pace, I believe SOE's H1Z1 is already ahead of DayZ and will continue to make leaps and bounds. 

     

    The article I linked, the part that impressed me was not the "Battle Royal" the part that impressed me was that instead of developing their own twist on battle royal, SOE went to Brendan Greene and gave props were props were due. 

    You can hate on Smed all you want, but that takes some class and so does the refund thing that happened too. Most game devs won't take the high road, at some point in time you have to start focusing on the good things, instead of honing in on the bad.

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,000

    Name one truly innovative feature in H1Z1 that no other survival game has?

     

    PVE servers...

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  • thinktank001thinktank001 Member UncommonPosts: 2,144
    Originally posted by Battlerock

    You can't view it like you're paying to beta test, you have to look at it like your supporting what is happening. 

     

    It is just too early to start this type of thinking.   It might be worth it a week before launch, but this early is just setting yourself up for disaster.  The balance in this game is extremely fragile and we know that the station pass perks haven't been implemented in H1Z1 yet.   Not to mention, that Smed was disappointed with how they monetized PS2 so we know he will not hold back with H1Z1.   Air drops are just the tip of the iceberg.    

     

    However, I will say that it is a blast watching some of these streamers role play, or do stupid stuff.    

     

     

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Umm Battle Royale has been in since Alpha launch.

    Not sure if you knew that.

    Almost every feature in H1Z1 is a straight copy from other survival games - air drops, ripping shirts to cloth, bandages, backpacks, everything has been borrowed from other games.

    I can't think of a single feature that is unique to H1Z1 other than higher #s of players per map.

    Don't get me wrong - I am playing and enjoying H1Z1 just fine - but giving props for straight up copying elements from other games... ?

    Ok.

    I guess you can say that about most games anyway especially mmos..

     

     

    Anyway I am also having a blast testing this game its a lot of fun even this early on.. but I would not tell anyone to buy this unless they are happy testing a game in early alpha and dont mind the servers being down quite a bit for patching and so on.. if they dont like that kind of thing then its best to wait until release.

  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987

    Is it just me that finds this bickering around cloning and copying ideas borderline dumb?

    I mean our whole civilisation literaly is in existance because humans are able to copy something existing and add changes and twists to try and make something better out of it. Sometimes we fail and it's just a subpar copy and some other times we find new ideas, discoveries and inventions.

    If you don't understand please take a look around your room and see how many inventions do you have around and how many are just copies?

    H1Z1 may not be an invention of new genre but it sure looks like inovation on higher standards. I've been waiting for 3 years or so since DayZ mod got popular and have skipped pretty much all the zombie survival games because I thought they are subpar on quality and/or content. I may be a little impatient still but right now it looks we are getting our first AAA zombie survival sandbox that picks multiple good things out of other games and I sure as hell am excited!

  • MrBum21MrBum21 Member UncommonPosts: 405

    I clicked here hoping you would say that you are giving away gift cards to purchase the game.  that would be a good reason for me to get it.

     

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  • randomtrandomt Member UncommonPosts: 1,220


    Originally posted by MadFrenchie
    For me, it won't be any single feature that makes the game enjoyable.  It'll be if it has (for lack of a better term) that "Walking Dead" feel to it.

    I been playing 7 days to die lately and that's one vibe I got, when a big swarm of walkers comes shambling in your general direction and the more more you do stuff the more this happens, until there's zombies coming at you trying to bash you, and at night they get more aggressive and smarter.. Anyway those lines of walkers was like that episode of Walking Dead where they are on a road and a big hoard of wandering zombies came through

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Deleted User
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    I can't see myself rushing to pay for beta testing a game that will be F2P when it's finally "done", and already has an up-and-running cash shop on top of that.

    I'll wait for you guys to pay to test it for me, I'll come in when it's free. Or I won't.

    You can't view it like you're paying to beta test, you have to look at it like your supporting what is happening. 

    I have played DayZ - I like what I have experienced, but they are moving at a turtles pace, I believe SOE's H1Z1 is already ahead of DayZ and will continue to make leaps and bounds. 

     

    actually, paying for alpha testing sets a terrible precedent.  You should look at it that way.

    It will only encourage more developers to do the same.

     

    There is a reason the genre is in such terrible shape.  Developers know there are enough impatient players to take the risk of funding their games for them. 

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    Most games use systems from other games.. its always been that way really.. What SOE/Daybreak have taken what was good in other survial games and are maknig it better.. its still early on but from what we have seen in game so far its going to be very good at release.

     

    Stil lthats my opinion I am sure there will be people who dont like it but thats the way of things..

     

    As for the title a good reason to make a H1Z1 purchase.. well I say this to anyone thinking about buying it at the moment.

    The game is in early alpha access there will be game breaking bugs and other major issues all the way through the testing process. If you are not happy dealing with these kind of things then its best to wait until the game is finished and released.

  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936

    Interesting read. Truly interesting and fascinating thread.

    Instead of saying that H1Z1 is basically the same ol' post-apocalyptic/zombie style mmo, why not approach this with ideas as to what exactly would make this mmo different. Why create a list or bullets points of what aspects of this genre could make any upcoming zombie style mmo unique and different in some way.

    I would imagine several of you folks who have played these games could think of many things that might make you game stand out in the crowd, so to speak.

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  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130

    Here is good reason NOT to play it.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6N5lMrD3g

     

     

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     

    And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     

    But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

     

    It's a very good game and BR is fun and hell and at this point in time I suggest that is all you try. 

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 268
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Here is good reason NOT to play it.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6N5lMrD3g

     

     

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     

    And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     

    But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

     

    It's a very good game and BR is fun as hell but hackers are out of control and SOE (Daybreak) cannot do anything about it.

    Congratulations, you are playing a game in TESTING and should be notifying them on the bugs you find.  Geesh

      OMG I am Ancient!
  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Member UncommonPosts: 868
    Originally posted by Octagon7711

    Name one truly innovative feature in H1Z1 that no other survival game has?

     

    PVE servers...

    I still think they need to add NPC bandits...

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  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Originally posted by Azmodeus
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Here is good reason NOT to play it.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6N5lMrD3g

     

     

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     

    And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     

    But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

     

    It's a very good game and BR is fun as hell but hackers are out of control and SOE (Daybreak) cannot do anything about it.

    Congratulations, you are playing a game in TESTING and should be notifying them on the bugs you find.  Geesh

    His job is to point out the problems with the game on social media... it's someone else's job to actually fix the game.

  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Should I be expected to file bug reports on a game I have paid for and will later become free? For what? Is it really that important to play a game early?

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Personally i can think of several good reasons not to buy into the game at present.

    Firstly, its not yet a finished game, and until its feature complete and ready for release, given the status of the company behind it, buying into it early, may be a gamble.

    Secondly, and also due to the sale of SOE to an investment company, is how will this affect the games financial model, as the game is going to be microtransaction driven, will the changes make much of a difference to how the cash shop is implemented.

    Thirdly, if/when the game is released as a 'finished' product, will it be kept, or sold on to another company.

    There are to many unanswered questions associated with H1Z1 at present, and with so much uncertainty surrounding things, i would be extremely hesitant to buy into it until more is known, not just about the games future, but also how the microtransactions are going to be implemented. Right now, wait and see seems to be the most sensible option.image

  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130

    Posted by a deleted account. Obvious Daybreak employee is obvious.

     

    Either way you all may want to wait for the game to at least get out of beta before you declare it a homerun. Furthermore, we have no idea what direction Daybreak plans to take this game so you may want to wait on that as well.

  • askdabossaskdaboss Member UncommonPosts: 631
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

    Good! I hope they hack the hell out of you and rip your character new holes by cheating and hacking.

     

    Then, when I pick up the game later it will mostly bug free. My future self just asked me to say "Thanks to you! Game is great now".

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Azmodeus
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Here is good reason NOT to play it.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6N5lMrD3g

     

     

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     

    And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     

    But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

     

    It's a very good game and BR is fun as hell but hackers are out of control and SOE (Daybreak) cannot do anything about it.

    Congratulations, you are playing a game in TESTING and should be notifying them on the bugs you find.  Geesh

    Congratulations, you have no idea what you are talking about.   Bugs and hackers are two completely different things.....

    Reporting hackers is not even simple like it is in MOST games,,, See most games have a ingame report system, this Alpha does not.   Even though the Devs even acknowledged that the hacker problem is their number 1 issue...  

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by askdaboss
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    You will spend hours upon hours working hard to build your base, collect 14 rounds of ammo, hide a stash etc and a hacker will spend about 10 seconds flying over your base walls or barricade and erase and steal EVERYTHING... PVP or PVE server it does not matter hackers love us all.  Thought you had a stash out in the woods somewhere? Don't worry, we got a hack for that...(look it up)...

     And for those that will come in and say that they barely ever see a hacker you are either 1. A hacker or 2. A liar.

     But don't take my word for it people please go spend your money on Hack1Z1 and see for yourself.  

    Good! I hope they hack the hell out of you and rip your character new holes by cheating and hacking.

     

    Then, when I pick up the game later it will mostly bug free. My future self just asked me to say "Thanks to you! Game is great now".

     

     

    Spoken by someone who has no clue about this Development team.  Who are comprised mostly by guys that Developed Planetside 2... Which btw was hacker city AFTER release....

    Notice the date of the video below and then compare that to the date Planetside 2 was released....  Yeah nice logic you have there...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBwbepTnsEo

     

    Also look up Planetside 2 hacks and see how there are still hacks that WORK for the game.  So GG on your awesome logic of yours.  When you do pay for this game, they will "rip your character new holes by cheating" as well. 

     

    /Cheers ")

     

    To all the people that will chime in and say "Hacks are in ever game" sure you bet hackers sadly are everywhere.. But I have never seen as many hackers play games developed by other companys as I have seen play SOE developed games.. I don't know if it has something to do with the poor coding or what have you.. I just do not know.

     

    Do not get me wrong this is a VERY VERY fun game... But it is one that is FULL of hackers that will ruin your enjoyment and time invested.  And that IS NOT fun or enjoyable.

     

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465

    Why pay for a game client that is going to be free shortly?

    If you think the VC guys are going to pay for a lot more continued development, you are smoking crack.

    This game will "release" soon, "finished" or otherwise, VC firms want their money.

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