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EVE Online's P2W Reduction Method... (An example other companies should learn from)...

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  • ArtificeVenatusArtificeVenatus Member UncommonPosts: 1,236
    Originally posted by DarLorkar
     

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread

     

    I guess you are not aware that you can also buy characters? Including all the skills they have??? 

    So about  that stuff it comment....

    Um, I hate to break it to you, but...

    Any other feature of the game is completely irrelevant to the subject given in this thread.

    Any other feature may entirely be Unrestricted P2W and-or be completely lousy with respect to "Pay to Win Reduction Methods"...

    But the actual example given (ie PLEX bought for real money, then bought and sold with in-game money... While taking into account how the skill system reduces any P2W advantages that could be had therefrom), is a great example of P2W Reduction Methods done correctly. Period.

    Thus, the comment still holds.

     

    The buying and selling of characters, if you read the thread you linked, is to prevent scams from occurring.

    Regardless of who is playing a character that has been around the block, the player behind it hardly actually matters.

    Originally posted by Wizardry

     

    EVERYTHING in a game should  have to be totally EARNED, there should NEVER be outside RMT inference. Saying our system is helping to make it more passable is not helping the problem at all.

    Whereas "everything should be earned" is absolutely agreeable... "there should NEVER be outside RMT interference" is completely impossible to guarantee. This does not matter how adamant a company is in tracking and killing black market, which would also include finding black market product sites of their own product's third party programs being sold, etc. You seem to carry quite a bit of conviction there, for something that knowledge would hold as fact as impossible, although can be attempted and should be attempted.

    Originally posted by Muke

    EVE "P2W" method.

     

    ummm yeah.

     

    OP , you forgot to mention the fact that these players need to have SKILLS to fly those ships. And with that I do not mean skillpoints, but actual mental skills to outplay their opponents.

    All too often I have killed players who have bought their ships and characters through selling plexes, when they think they are invincible.

     

    LOVE it.

    *snicker snicker chuckle*

    ummm yeah.

    Someone forgot to actually FULLY READ the OP... or did and can not fathom the thought of having constructively adding to it, while unconstructively doing so image

    Originally posted by BarakIII

    I was playing Eve at the time, but I was never more than a casual player. I did not keep up with the forums are anything like that. That said information is passed on so even casual players like myself do get the general gist of things.

    As to how it was to battle the ISK seller problem I would think that would be obvious. PLEX at it's core is a means to officially buy ISK from CCP. There is no need to go to some third party site to buy currency. No more risk of having your account hacked by said third party sites and no more risk of having your account banned for breaking the EULA. Not to mention CCP can sell PLEX and therefore ISK for much cheaper than any third party company. One thing I do know for certain is that once PLEX was integrated into the game third party ISK sellers disappeared almost entirely and did so practically over night. The difference was immediate and dramatic.

    Ah, thank you on the reply and info.

  • DeathengerDeathenger Member UncommonPosts: 880
    The skill system has absolutely nothing to do with this made up fantasy you're having about a p2w reduction system. The whole idea is just ridiculous. That's like saying 12 years ago when they game came out they knew many years in the future they were going to sell plex. Gimme a break.
     
  • DecimussDecimuss Member UncommonPosts: 17
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk

    In reality P2W should be a rare exception. It should be a game that should be shunned or shamed into removing the P2W aspects.

    Exactly this.

     

    P2W games should be shunned & shamed, and people should boycott them.

    Instead, they're pretty much the norm when it comes to F2P/B2P MMOs these days (I do count "boosters" as P2W).

     

    In fact, the gaming industry is in such a bad shape that when a company actually respects its consumers & wants to treat them fairly, they get praised to high heavens.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/26/the-witcher-3-dev-on-making-a-stand-against-paid-dlc

    Just look at the comments section. People who aren't even interested in their games want to buy them to support their policies.

     

    This should not be an exception in the industry, it should be the norm. 

    Like it used to be, back in the golden days of gaming.

  • AmanaAmana Moderator UncommonPosts: 3,912

    Posting threads multiple  times is essentially a form of spamming. While there are some differences in your posts, this is here discussing EVE in context but also about other games, which functions as an extension of this:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/423723/page/1 

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