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HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839

I'm on a budget for this but that looks like a good price for what it is? I think it was two something not to long ago.  A 2k is not in my budget. I wish it was.  I use a 1440x900 atm. old I know.  It's old and I have eye trouble from it and not sure why exactly.  I can stair at tablets with no issue. Will I see a big difference in games going from my 1440 x 900 to Asus VX238H?

For reference. I have a I5 4670K and a EVGA GTX 770

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  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Odd it's $179. Definitely on a budget currently.  I was going to buy a more pricey monitor awhile back but because I had not sat at my pc in months, I did not. 
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    For less than half of that cost you can have something a bit better: http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-s24d390hl-23-6in-widescreen-pls-f7-95913-1165.htm

     

    Review of it here: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-s24d390hl/

     

    (PS your link also showed it as $410 for me)

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  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    I just clicked the link again. It's definitely $179 for me. Not $400. Not sure what is going on. Ya'll in the U.K. or something?
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    I just clicked the link again. It's definitely $179 for me. Not $400. Not sure what is going on. Ya'll in the U.K. or something?

    It's showing the Canadian Amazon for me

     

    Just forced it to US amazon and now I see the $179... I still like the Samsung better. It's a PLS panel, not TN.

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  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    I just clicked the link again. It's definitely $179 for me. Not $400. Not sure what is going on. Ya'll in the U.K. or something?

    It's showing the Canadian Amazon for me

    Ah, probably what it is then. Other poster is from Canada as well.  At that price (the one I listed) is it ok you think?  I really don't have large budget.  $180 is kind of stretching it.  I think my current one is giving me eye problems some how.  Just really old and maybe colors are off even after calibrating. I can spend days calibrating it and never get it just right.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    I just clicked the link again. It's definitely $179 for me. Not $400. Not sure what is going on. Ya'll in the U.K. or something?

    It's showing the Canadian Amazon for me

    Ah  probably what it is then. Other poster is from Canada as well.  At that price is it ok you think?  I really don't have a budget to spend a bunch on a monitor. $180 is kind of stretching it. But I think my current one is giving me eye problems so I definitely think it's time for it to go.  Had it a years.

     

    The one I linked is $169 at Amazon US and IMHO, it's a better panel:  http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-23-6-Inch-Viewing-Monitor-S24D390HL/dp/B00IEZGYNK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420601690&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+monitor

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  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Hulluck
    I just clicked the link again. It's definitely $179 for me. Not $400. Not sure what is going on. Ya'll in the U.K. or something?

    It's showing the Canadian Amazon for me

    Ah  probably what it is then. Other poster is from Canada as well.  At that price is it ok you think?  I really don't have a budget to spend a bunch on a monitor. $180 is kind of stretching it. But I think my current one is giving me eye problems so I definitely think it's time for it to go.  Had it a years.

     

    The one I linked is $169 at Amazon US and IMHO, it's a better panel:  http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-23-6-Inch-Viewing-Monitor-S24D390HL/dp/B00IEZGYNK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420601690&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+monitor

    I got no issues with Samsung. They make good products.  I doubt that I would be able to notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms.  I'm not a twitch gamer.  Unless someone says other wise I'll give it a day. See what people say.  I don't live anywhere that would have all these in one place where I could look at them so..  Kind of winging it.

     

     

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Amazon has a pretty liberal return policy, if nothing else.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    ASUS 28" $219.99

    Thats the best I can do. I have a model similar to it and really love the size. The pixel density is not ideal, but thats why its not that expensive.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    Amazon has a pretty liberal return policy, if nothing else.

    The one he linked isn't prime though. But they are based in Cali so not to bad.  I was trying to figure out the difference between the S24D390HL and the S24D360HL.  The one I linked the obvious feature of it is 1MS.  Not sure if I would notice the difference between 1ms or not.  Maybe. That said a lot is better than what I currently have.  Just thought I might ask before I bought. Kind of winging it. 

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Cleffy

    ASUS 28" $219.99

    Thats the best I can do. I have a model similar to it and really love the size. The pixel density is not ideal, but thats why its not that expensive.

    Not horrible either. Lot around that range that have worse and much smaller screen size.  That said, size is to big. 23-24 inches is about what I got room for without having to modify my desk shelves. Using pcpartpicker to help me narrow it down a little.  My original plan was a 144hz 1ms. But that's definitely not my budget anymore. 

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,493
    Originally posted by Hulluck

    I'm on a budget for this but that looks like a good price for what it is? I think it was two something not to long ago.  A 2k is not in my budget. I wish it was.  I use a 1440x900 atm. old I know.  It's old and I have eye trouble from it and not sure why exactly.  I can stair at tablets with no issue. Will I see a big difference in games going from my 1440 x 900 to Asus VX238H?

    For reference. I have a I5 4670K and a EVGA GTX 770

    That's a TN monitor, so it's not likely that the image quality will be decent.  I don't see any other redeeming qualities that would justify that, but I didn't look that hard.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Personally, I don't pay much attention to response time - especially not advertised 5ms vs advertised 1ms. I care a lot more about color fidelity since do a lot of photo editing.

     

    Some people claim the human eye can't differentiate between 1 and 5. IDK if that's true or not but I've been playing games on my 6ms 24" 1920 X 1200 for many years and I have 0 complaints.

     

    Also, the advertised response times have to be taken with a grain of salt since manufacturers use all kinds of different methods to measure it since there is no industry standard.

     

    To me it's just marketing speak like the usually wildly exaggerated advertised contrast ratios.

     

    Mine has a color response wider than full RGB (Adobe RGB) and all I know is that I've been calibrating it monthly for 7 years and it barely requires any adjustments and looks great in games.

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    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by Hulluck

    I'm on a budget for this but that looks like a good price for what it is? I think it was two something not to long ago.  A 2k is not in my budget. I wish it was.  I use a 1440x900 atm. old I know.  It's old and I have eye trouble from it and not sure why exactly.  I can stair at tablets with no issue. Will I see a big difference in games going from my 1440 x 900 to Asus VX238H?

    For reference. I have a I5 4670K and a EVGA GTX 770

    That's a TN monitor, so it's not likely that the image quality will be decent.  I don't see any other redeeming qualities that would justify that, but I didn't look that hard.

    That is something I had in the back of my mind.  I was looking at the more expensive 1ms version from ASUS and reviews said that it sacrificed picture for ms.  So that's, that. Two votes against it have got me off it. 

    That's why I posted.  I'm very much winging it. It's a spur of the moment thing. My eyes are driving me nuts passed few days and I've been to an eye doctor. It's this monitor doing it. So thank you no need to go into great detail on that specific one.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Iselin

    Personally, I don't pay much attention to response time - especially not advertised 5ms vs advertised 1ms. I care a lot more about color fidelity since do a lot of photo editing.

     

    Some people claim the human eye can't differentiate between 1 and 5. IDK if that's true or not but I've been playing games on my 6ms 24" 1920 X 1200 for many years and I have 0 complaints.

     

    Also, the advertised response times have to be taken with a grain of salt since manufacturers use all kinds of different methods to measure it since there is no industry standard.

     

    To me it's just marketing speak like the usually wildly exaggerated advertised contrast ratios.

     

    Mine has a color response wider than full RGB (Adobe RGB) and all I know is that I've been calibrating it monthly for 7 years and it barely requires any adjustments and looks great in games.

    yep I'm off the 1ms thing. You pretty much put the nail in the coffin with your 1st post. Think i'm rushing it and it's late.  Going to sleep on it and do some research tomorrow.  Just fed up with this one and a itch happened.

    The one Samsung you listed isn't Prime. Which isn't a huge deal but it's a perk as I do have Prime. It's coming out of CA so it is in the states and not some place like China. Been there done that by mistake once.

     

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839

    Just want to apologize first and say that I am sorry to take up someones time. I'm reading and learning about monitors.

     

    Is PPI always constant? I can use http://dpi.lv/ to find PPI of a given screen.  I'm using pc part picker to help me narrow my field. Once I find technical spec. I would like a decent resolution. I notice how bad mine is whenever I take screenshots of say GW2.   I'm on a budget.  It's comfortable at $150.   $200 is basically cap.  24" max .  I am eyeballing a monitor that breaks my cap but it's at a higher resolution with 5 ms. there's a cheaper one but it's 15 ms.

     

    I have Prime so 2 day delivery is nice. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs24ahp  has $20 rebate so it's just above my cap. Oh.. Can my 770 handle that?  Just for reference.  GTX 770  That is just what I have not what I paid for it. So no one busts my balls :(

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    PPI is pixels per inch - so you take your monitor's native maximum resolution and physical size - and that's your native (and best) PPI.

    If you have a 1080p monitor that's 19", it will have a higher PPI than a 1080p monitor that's 27". Even though the resolutions are the same, the pixels have to be smaller on the smaller unit to fit the same number of them in a smaller area - ergo, you have more pixels per inch on the smaller unit.

    It's not exactly fixed, as you can set your desktop resolution to something less than native, and get a lower PPI than native, but that's hardly desirable. You can also use something like nVidia DSR or another Downsampling tool - that allows you to run at a virtual resolution that's higher than your monitor can actually support, and then it gets downsampled to fit in your native resolution - but that won't increase your PPI, as you haven't actually added any pixels.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    PPI is pixels per inch - so you take your monitor's native maximum resolution and physical size - and that's your native (and best) PPI.

    It's not exactly fixed, as you can set your desktop resolution to something less than native, and get a lower PPI than native, but that's hardly desirable. You can also use something like nVidia DSR or another Downsampling tool - that allows you to run at a virtual resolution that's higher than your monitor can actually support, and then it gets downsampled to fit in your native resolution - but that won't increase your PPI, as you haven't actually added any pixels.

     So if I saved myself some money by going with a 1920x1080. Can I fool the GW2 client into thinking I have a higher resolution than I do with DSR to take really hi-rez  screencaps? i feel so fucking clueless sometimes.

     

     

    EDIT:  oh shit.. I am so stupid. It's been under my nose this whole time!

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    A 770GTX can technically drive up to a 4k monitor, but you wouldn't want to game with that. 1440p (2560x1440) you could game reasonably on - most titles on high, a few older ones still on ultra, a few newer ones on Medium~ish

    The 1920x1200 monitor it can drive very well - my wife is driving a 1920x1200 on a 660 and it does most games on High (if not Ultra), the difference between 16:9 and 16:10 isn't a lot of pixels, at least not nearly as many as jumping up to 1440p or 4k is.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383


    Originally posted by Hulluck

    Originally posted by Ridelynn PPI is pixels per inch - so you take your monitor's native maximum resolution and physical size - and that's your native (and best) PPI. It's not exactly fixed, as you can set your desktop resolution to something less than native, and get a lower PPI than native, but that's hardly desirable. You can also use something like nVidia DSR or another Downsampling tool - that allows you to run at a virtual resolution that's higher than your monitor can actually support, and then it gets downsampled to fit in your native resolution - but that won't increase your PPI, as you haven't actually added any pixels.
     So if I saved myself some money by going with a 1920x1080. Can I fool the GW2 client into thinking I have a higher resolution than I do with DSR to take really hi-rez  screencaps? i feel so fucking clueless sometimes.

     

     

    EDIT:  oh shit.. I am so stupid. It's been under my nose this whole time!


    Yes. Keep in mind it's entirely likely you can drive yourself down to like single-digit FPS, but in a screenshot, who's gonna care?

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

     


    Originally posted by Hulluck

    Originally posted by Ridelynn PPI is pixels per inch - so you take your monitor's native maximum resolution and physical size - and that's your native (and best) PPI. It's not exactly fixed, as you can set your desktop resolution to something less than native, and get a lower PPI than native, but that's hardly desirable. You can also use something like nVidia DSR or another Downsampling tool - that allows you to run at a virtual resolution that's higher than your monitor can actually support, and then it gets downsampled to fit in your native resolution - but that won't increase your PPI, as you haven't actually added any pixels.
     So if I saved myself some money by going with a 1920x1080. Can I fool the GW2 client into thinking I have a higher resolution than I do with DSR to take really hi-rez  screencaps? i feel so fucking clueless sometimes.

     

     

     

    EDIT:  oh shit.. I am so stupid. It's been under my nose this whole time!


     

    Yes. Keep in mind it's entirely likely you can drive yourself down to like single-digit FPS, but in a screenshot, who's gonna care?

    I'm serious I had no clue it was that easy. I can't do 4k on this monitor for whatever reason. Gives me 2k options. I feel so fucking stupid.

    I think I am going to pull the trigger on that monitor. The last one.  I don't have the budget anymore for a $400-$500 monitor.  Only real concern is text might be to small. But I guess I can use lower resolutions.  A bit more reading on it and comparing. I might say f--k it and buy better.  so hard making a monitor purchase without being able to compare the screens.

  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    Originally posted by Hulluck

    I'm on a budget for this but that looks like a good price for what it is? I think it was two something not to long ago.  A 2k is not in my budget. I wish it was.  I use a 1440x900 atm. old I know.  It's old and I have eye trouble from it and not sure why exactly.  I can stair at tablets with no issue. Will I see a big difference in games going from my 1440 x 900 to Asus VX238H?

    For reference. I have a I5 4670K and a EVGA GTX 770

    Depends on the kind of games you'll be playing/how picky you are about the response time. That VX238H you're looking at has a pretty great response time of 1ms, which would be great if you want as close to a true seamless experience in FPS as possible. If you want to save a little and budget further, definitely consider monitors with a 2ms response time as they're usually not as pricey for similar all around specs minus the response times. That and unless you're HIGHLY competitive in FPS sorts of games, a 1ms difference is really negligible and difficult to notice.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839
    Originally posted by Shoko_Lied
    Originally posted by Hulluck

    I'm on a budget for this but that looks like a good price for what it is? I think it was two something not to long ago.  A 2k is not in my budget. I wish it was.  I use a 1440x900 atm. old I know.  It's old and I have eye trouble from it and not sure why exactly.  I can stair at tablets with no issue. Will I see a big difference in games going from my 1440 x 900 to Asus VX238H?

    For reference. I have a I5 4670K and a EVGA GTX 770

    Depends on the kind of games you'll be playing/how picky you are about the response time. That VX238H you're looking at has a pretty great response time of 1ms, which would be great if you want as close to a true seamless experience in FPS as possible. If you want to save a little and budget further, definitely consider monitors with a 2ms response time as they're usually not as pricey for similar all around specs minus the response times. That and unless you're HIGHLY competitive in FPS sorts of games, a 1ms difference is really negligible and difficult to notice.

    I'm off of that one. I was convinced what I would be giving up wasn't worth it.  I game on a really shitty monitor from like 08 or something.  Looking at http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs24ahp atm. It's one of the cheaper 1920 x 1200's and some people say it has bleeding problems.  So I am contemplating the meaning of life.  (Or how much do I really want to spend)

     

    Edit: Essentially neutered at this point. Can't make up my mind between IPS, PLS, or TN @ 1MS. Not even factoring my budget at this point. not getting to silly but 23 - 24 inch range doesn't get to pricey.

  • HulluckHulluck Member UncommonPosts: 839

    Have learned a bit. Been at it all night. I got it narrowed down to 3 monitors 1080P 1920x1080.  I am going with this resolution because it seems like the norm and stuff might have problems with 1920x1200? I'm sure it's not a huge deal but I am just playing it safe.

    I got 2 choices I can compare locally that I am interested in.

    the last choice is only online.  It has 5 eggs and and a lot of reviews. Seems like something was wrong with everything else. Like wobbly stand ect. reflective boarders. I was really interested in Asus because one would think they would put out a decent IPS for gaming. So many horrible reviews on the stands or speakers. Very consistent to. Not just a few defects here and there.

    What I really like Acer America H226HQLbid  No one is really ripping any aspect of it apart. Really amazed by this. People nitpicked other stuff on just about everything else.

    I can compare this Acer H6 Series H236HLbid with the Samsung at best buy. This is the 23" version of the other Acer. It seems to have a problem with white / contrast. So I don't know. 1440P is out of the price range I could pay atm. 

     

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