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VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282

Ok after a couple of days of research, I want to go with a Mini ITX build this is what I came up with

 

Parts List:
Corsair Force LS 120Gb
Kingston HyperX 8Gb Ram (2 X 4Gb)
Seasonic SS-760XP2 760w Platinum
Gigabyte GTX 780 GHz Edition
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Intel i5 4670K - Overclocked 4.2
Asus Z87I Deluxe 1150 Socket Mini-ITX
Bitfenix Prodigy Black Case
* Plus one Extra Bitfenix Fan

Comments

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593
    Why not a GTX 970 instead of 780?
  • JenosydeJenosyde Member UncommonPosts: 100
    Why the 4670k over the 4690k? Not much price difference 
  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Why not a GTX 970 instead of 780?

    I didn't think of that.  

  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Why the 4670k over the 4690k? Not much price difference 

    really?

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    It's not just what parts you get.  It's what price you get them at.  Where are you looking to buy parts?
  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282
    I was thinking newegg, since I use it a couple of years ago.  
  • SignexSignex Member UncommonPosts: 318
    I agree with the others, change that and you're golden. :D
    AMD Ryzen 5800X3D - Gigabyte Aorus RTX 3080 10G Master - 16GB RAM
  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,181

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT

    Couple of small changes, lemme know what you think.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT

    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT/by_merchant/

     

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 

    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Micro Center) 

    Motherboard: Asus H97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($101.99 @ Amazon) 

    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($78.98 @ OutletPC) 

    Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.98 @ Newegg) 

    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card  ($354.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

    Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($59.49 @ Newegg) 

    Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 

    Total: $1075.39

    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 18:57 EST-0500

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282

    You gave me somethings to think about. I still have about 2 months before I buy everything. but I will buy some parts within the month like the case and memory.

    Questions for everyone here, Is there any reason to go with AMD FX series for the 8 cores? they seem cheap for the money? I'm asking since I do use programs lile photoshop, primiere and do some video stuff? 2. Is watercool a good idea or not? 3. Is Nividia that much better that ATI? I'm just asking for my knowledge, since I do find ATI cards a little bit cheaper. Lastly, is amd build cheaper than intel build?

    The point of this build is for a great steam gaming and be able to do photography and video stuff. Since I don't have a direct ethernet setup at my current place, I must have wifi and bluetooth on the motherboard. I was looking for a mini itx that had both and only found a one for intel and none for AMD.

    BTW thanks guys for the info. Quizzcal your last build you help me with in 2011 was sweet and lasted me 3 years ago. I didn't forget :)

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342

    Imo, 120GB SSD is highly insufficient.

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Originally posted by Vallista
    Originally posted by skeaser

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT

    Couple of small changes, lemme know what you think.

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT

    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/82b9FT/by_merchant/

     

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 

    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Micro Center) 

    Motherboard: Asus H97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($101.99 @ Amazon) 

    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($78.98 @ OutletPC) 

    Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.98 @ Newegg) 

    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card  ($354.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

    Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($59.49 @ Newegg) 

    Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 

    Total: $1075.39

    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-08 18:57 EST-0500

     

    I'm going to go over this. I still have about 2 months before I buy everything. but I will buy some part with a month. Question for everyone here, Is there any reason to go with AMD FX series for the 8 cores? I'm asking since I do use programs lile photoshop, primiere and do some video stuff? Second question, Is Nividia that much better that ATI? I'm just asking for my knowledge. BTW thanks guys for the info. Quizzal your last build you help me with in 2011 was sweet and lasted me 3 years. I didn't forget :)

    You can't really go wrong with the i5 in terms of gaming at the moment. It will generally beat the AMD FX CPUs except in a couple of cases, but of course is more expensive.

    For graphics cards you're fine with nvidia or AMD. Neither is better than the other, and each has a couple of advantages over the other.

    A 760W PSU is an overkill, this is for SLI/Crossfire systems. 450W is more than enough.

    Depending on how many games and applications you want to install I'd consider a 500MB SSD.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Vallista

    Question for everyone here, Is there any reason to go with AMD FX series for the 8 cores? I'm asking since I do use programs lile photoshop, primiere and do some video stuff? Second question, Is Nividia that much better that ATI? I'm just asking for my knowledge. BTW thanks guys for the info. Quizzal your last build you help me with in 2011 was sweet and lasted me 3 years. I didn't forget :)

    Generally speaking, unless you want intergated GPU, there isn't really a reason to go with AMD. That is the only thing that AMD does notably better.

    Nvidia got more way lower power consumption = less heat. Otherwise they are generally more expensive per unit of perfromance.


    Even 240GB is not so much space. SSD aren't really good for gaming rigs unless you spent on their capacity - you need to have the game installed on SSD to benefit from drive speed.

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593
    Originally posted by Gdemami

    Imo, 120GB SSD is highly insufficient.

    Although I agree that 120 is too low, I dont feel you need to go more than 250 GB SSD and then get a 1 TB regular harddrive for holding non gaming stuff. When I switched to SSD I definitely felt the lower loading times, both for games and windows startup. And you would rarely play more than 3-4 games at one time, for which 250 GB is sufficient.

  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282
    So 250 SSD?  
  • Zarf42Zarf42 Member Posts: 250
    I would definitely get 250 gb ssd and maybe rethink a mini case, you have heat issues and working on one is annoying.
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    A single modern game can be anything from 5gb to 50gb, so if you have a lot of games a 250gb drive will fill up quickly. With SSD prices now fairly low I'd go for 500GB if it's within budget, especially in a small case. Definitely don't go for 120GB for a gaming system.
  • VallistaVallista Member UncommonPosts: 282

    I'm been looking and found this build on youtube recently

     

    Custom Console PC Parts List: 

    AMD Athlon 5350 APU, 2.05Ghz: $59.99
    http://amzn.to/1DtOPpB

    ASRock Motherboard Micro AM1B-M: $33.99
    http://amzn.to/1Gm5OrO

    Crucial Ballisticx 4gb DDR3: 35.99
    http://amzn.to/1Ava3xl

    Mini AC WIFI Adpater: 16.99
    http://amzn.to/1AvanvW

    FSP 450W Power Supply: $59.99
    http://amzn.to/1Byq3zZ

    Silverstone Tek Mini-ITX DTX Computer Case: 69.99
    http://amzn.to/1A5FoH8

    Western Digital 500GB WD Blue: 44.99
    http://amzn.to/1A5FDSp

    NVIDIA GTX 760 EVAG: $199.99
    http://amzn.to/1sqO3zl

    TOTAL: $521.93

     

    What could I change out?  

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    Originally posted by Vallista

    I'm been looking and found this build on youtube recently

     

    Custom Console PC Parts List: 

    AMD Athlon 5350 APU, 2.05Ghz: $59.99
    http://amzn.to/1DtOPpB

    ASRock Motherboard Micro AM1B-M: $33.99
    http://amzn.to/1Gm5OrO

    Crucial Ballisticx 4gb DDR3: 35.99
    http://amzn.to/1Ava3xl

    Mini AC WIFI Adpater: 16.99
    http://amzn.to/1AvanvW

    FSP 450W Power Supply: $59.99
    http://amzn.to/1Byq3zZ

    Silverstone Tek Mini-ITX DTX Computer Case: 69.99
    http://amzn.to/1A5FoH8

    Western Digital 500GB WD Blue: 44.99
    http://amzn.to/1A5FDSp

    NVIDIA GTX 760 EVAG: $199.99
    http://amzn.to/1sqO3zl

    TOTAL: $521.93

     

    What could I change out?  

    That's the wackiest build that I've seen in quite some time.  It's basically a nettop plus a $275 video card.

    AMD, like Intel, has two lines of x86 CPU cores.  One is their "small" cores line (bobcat, jaguar, puma), intended for low power, low performance use such as tablets and cheap laptops.  The other is their "big" cores line (bulldozer, piledriver, steamroller), intended for high power, high performance use such as servers, desktops, and higher performance laptops.

    That build uses AMD's cheap, low power line.  The best Kabini and Beema dies get put into laptops where performance per watt is critical.  But some of the dies aren't very good, so rather than throwing them in the garbage, AMD sells them very cheaply for desktops use where you can have poor energy efficiency and not very high clock speeds and it's fine.  That build buys one of those dies.

    Now, that makes some sense if you're building a desktop on a severe budget and never going to do anything more demanding than web browsing.  You can get a CPU, GPU, and graphics for $70 in total, in a system that barely uses any power so as to not put much demand on the power delivery or case airflow.

    But the platform is wildly inappropriate for gaming.  For starters, it doesn't offer a PCI Express x16 connection.  There is a physical x16 slot, but with only x4 bandwidth.  PCI Express lanes burn power, so AMD didn't include many of them for this platform.  You don't get two memory channels, either; you only get one.  A cursory look at motherboards finds about 4 USB ports and two SATA ports to be typical.  Want a hard drive, an SSD, and an optical drive?  You won't be able to plug them all in at once.

    That's not to say it's a bad platform.  Cheap laptops don't need 8 USB ports or 6 SATA ports.  It's an SoC, which means no chipset, and that limits connectivity.  That makes a ton of sense in the intended market.  Gaming just isn't the intended market.

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