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CCP did it again. After cheating by devs, accounts got banned for stealing items from a DEVS friend

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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Thomas2006

    Doesn't matter what the reason or even if there is a reason. If they want to ban you they will and can do so. Your access to there service can be terminated at any time for any and even no reason if they so choose.

    That goes for just about any MMO you play. The EULAs clearly state that they can terminate the service at any time for any reason they want.

    I tend to more believe you purchased the PLEX on one of your other accounts and transfered it over via trying to play the corp card and it just did not work out for you.

    There is a team at CCP that just works on finding and eliminating RMT'ers etc from the game, they work hard, they have the onerous task of dealing with all the 'real' dishonesty in the game, or trying to, as such they have to catch people who use increasingly complex methods of trying to circumvent their detection methods.

      It just seems to me that the OP tried to 'hide' their 'purchases' via a method that made it look like an in game corporate theft. Imagine for a moment that the Corp founder/ceo purchased a few billions of isk from an RMT'er, then used the isk to purchase plex's and stored them in a corp hanger. now, members need permissions to access those corp hangers, so all that has to be done is for the intended end user of the plexes to be given access to the corp hangers, the end user then can claim that he has scammed the corp by 'stealing' the plexes from them. The Corp founder/ceo is probably just a 'disposable' toon used to carry out these 'transactions' it doesn't cost much after all to setup a corp, and the 'stealing' operation can be carried out several times, until the operation is eventually discovered. It would be interesting to know how many times that Corp had had plexes 'stolen' from them image

    CCP have a reputation of being absolutely ruthless with people who breach the EULA in this fashion, particularly in relation to RMT, they are fairly open about their methods, you can probably still find their speeches from these departments on the Eve fanfest youtube vids. Afaik they do not ban accounts until they are absolutely certain that they are correct to do so. In my long experience with CCP and Eve, while i may have questioned their methods with some things - unified inventory being imo a complete PITA, i've found them to be fair in their dealings with players.image

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by TheChronic"Jita (General) » CCP did it again. After cheating by devs, accounts got banned for stealing items from a DEVS friend coorp"


    Originally posted by TheChronic"coorp Hangar"

    What a coincidence you and CCP Peligro make same spelling errors...

  • rubydragon5rubydragon5 Member UncommonPosts: 692
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by TheChronic

     

    "Jita (General) » CCP did it again. After cheating by devs, accounts got banned for stealing items from a DEVS friend coorp"


     

     


    Originally posted by TheChronic

     

    "coorp Hangar"


     

    What a coincidence you and CCP Peligro make same spelling errors...

     

     

    wow





  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 38,239
    Originally posted by rubydragon5
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by TheChronic

     

    "Jita (General) » CCP did it again. After cheating by devs, accounts got banned for stealing items from a DEVS friend coorp"


     

     


    Originally posted by TheChronic

     

    "coorp Hangar"


     

    What a coincidence you and CCP Peligro make same spelling errors...

     

     

    wow

    Yeah, that was pointed out earlier in the thread as well, OP is carefully avoiding the subject as it pretty much blows this entire story out of the water.

    What I find amazing is how many other posters are basically slandering CCP with allegations such as tax evasion, corporate sanction of developer corruption, and other scurrilous practices with no actual proof that any of this is currently happening.

    People point to examples of corruption that happened over 8 years ago, but regardless seem to realize that corporations hire human beings, and sometimes their employees do disreputable things which have to be dealt with.

    To summarize, CCP does not ban people for stealing from corp hangers, that practice is done regularly from low level gear to entire corp holdings, and CCP does not take action against people for this that I've ever heard of.

    No, the OP's story reeks of being a structuring scam and the real complaint here is he feels there's no way they could have caught him, so they have no right to enforce their rules.  Apparently, he's wrong in that regard.

     

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,851

    As much as I dislike the douchebagery that EVE encourages among its player base, and as much as I believe some of the game's employees who play EVE probably abuse their status, I don't believe they are stupid enough to do it so overtly. I am inclined to believe the OP got caught laundering ISK obtained outside the EULA.

    If this really was retaliation by a developer, I'd imagine it would have been handled in a way more consistent with the way things are done in game

     

    Heh, I remember many years ago, back during Vanilla WoW, there was a player who posted a very clever and well written post about being banned for botting. He claimed that he was banned becasue he was using Linux and playing under WINE to run the game and that the Windows emulator was responsible for Blizzard's detection being flagged. He went on to describe how he had just purchased a new gaming mouse and keyboard and had been setting up his macros for playing. This was a very long and involved thread that had gotten the Linux gaming community up in arms.

    But there was one thing that didn't make sense.......It seemes there always is in these "I was framed" threads.

    He didn't stop to think that back in 2005, gaming mice and KBs didn't make drivers for Linux and there was no way he was experimenting with his new tools under Linux.

  • sketocafesketocafe Member UncommonPosts: 950
    Nah, you bought isk and got banned for it. Corps who RMT aren't going to give rights to access stuff to just anyone and anyone who has rights with corps like this should damn well know what 's going on. You expect us to accept that your 'victims' filed a ticket to recover their plex and got helped out by a friendly dev when it's far more likely that you got caught ass out buying isk. CCP knows damn well about corp thefts, there would never be a ban here if these guys weren't RMTing their asses off and you'd never have had the chance to steal the plex if they were. 
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,241

    wow some of these indie sandbox games have lots of guild to staff issues...

    Mortal Online to Darkfall to Eve

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  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Everyone keeps saying that EVE is a real world game. You screw with the wrong people in the real world you get stomped on. Why would EVE be any different. People abuse their power every day, you just have to take it on the chin like a man, or in your case, up the butthole.

  • Originally posted by MMOExposed
    wow some of these indie sandbox games have lots of guild to staff issues...

    Mortal Online to Darkfall to Eve


    First learn to read comments. And then again learn the difference between AAA and indie mmos. /facepalm...

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,851
    Originally posted by Nepheth

     


    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    wow some of these indie sandbox games have lots of guild to staff issues...

     

    Mortal Online to Darkfall to Eve


     

    First learn to read comments. And then again learn the difference between AAA and indie mmos. /facepalm...

    I wouldn't classify CCP as "indie", and I don't believe it's a factor in this case. I think the OP is full of s**t. However, the fact that he was able to convince many in this thread goes back to the history of this game (and others like it) where employees were caught in in-game scandals.

     

  • TheChronicTheChronic Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Deathenger
    I just noticed something.

    The op spells corp "coorp" in his thread title. In the first email he claims is from CCP has also spelled corp as "coorp". Coincidence? I think not.

    Nobody spells corp "coorp".

    The OP is completely and totally lying thru his teeth. He got banned for RMT and is now just trying to smear CCP and the game.

    You're busted dude. BUSTED!

    Thoes emails from CCP are fake and so is your claim.

    Good day sir.

     

    Dude I typed the whole damn E-Mail into this window because I am not able to copy & paste it. With "coorp, corp or KORP" whatever it is I mean ingame coorporation.

    Jesus.

    "You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."

  • TheChronicTheChronic Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Nepheth

     


    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    wow some of these indie sandbox games have lots of guild to staff issues...

     

    Mortal Online to Darkfall to Eve


     

    First learn to read comments. And then again learn the difference between AAA and indie mmos. /facepalm...

    I wouldn't classify CCP as "indie", and I don't believe it's a factor in this case. I think the OP is full of s**t. However, the fact that he was able to convince many in this thread goes back to the history of this game (and others like it) where employees were caught in in-game scandals.

     

    Im sorry for ruining your illusion that your beloved game is perfect and your ingame devs as well.

    It is not and they are not, but thats not my fault buddy.

    "You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."

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