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I would sub instantly if they had a non cash shop server.
delete5230
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I still find Archeage interesting. I've never played it because of the tainted corruption from day one.
I would love to pay the sub fee, heck, I would even pay up to $60 for a digital download....THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE....Anything less is just nasty business practice.
Games often start off being sub based then F2P. Well sets see it in reverse !!
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This will never happen. It would mean TRION would actually have to do work and balance the game and provide real customer support.
When I wake up, the real nightmare begins
The game originally launched (in Korea) as a P2P sub game, but was converted to full freemium monetisation not long after launch.
Obviously, XLGames were not happy with the revenue generated by the subscription-only model, so it's highly unlikely that they'll be returning to it.
True, but we aren't Koreans, and this isn't Korea.
North American's are sick of being nickeled & dimed & scammed to death with fail2play games.
When I wake up, the real nightmare begins
That may be true, seeing as North Americans seem to have been very enthusiastic supporters of Cash Shop driven games. After all, they spend more per capita in Cash Shops than players in any other region of the world !
SO you never even tried a game that is right up your alley (based on your posts here) because you get it for free?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
If I were Trion I would do exactly that:
Open 2 new servers without cashshop.
Enable charactertransfer to those servers from any other (for only 149 bucks)
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.
Since you haven't played this game, you have no idea how silly your statement is.
Subscription or not, cash shop or not, you can't magically create land for everyone to own when the game was never coded for it.
What you are really asking for is a complete rewrite of the game, might as well ask for an entirely different game.
The downfall of AA has zero to do with it being a F2P game... but everyone just loves to use their favorite scapegoat to explain the downfall of yet another MMO. The game was poorly coded from the start. No amount of cash you throw at it is going to change that.
Actually the worst thing you can do to any sandbox is destablize the economy and thats exactly what TRION did repeatedly through the cash shop.
The game isn't a sand box.
The game is F2P and I still don't play it.
Adding a sub to the game as is would not make it better.
If you (and others) were willing to pay the difference between F2P + Sub + MicroTransactions and P2P + Sub, no one would hesitate taking your money. However, as it would likely be $50k USD per month, per person for an empty server, it just hasn't happened yet. All that is needed to make it happen is the commitment + money. Go for it!
Allods online a f2p game, open a sub only server, right now is not doing so hot for months, not saying Arche Age will end up same way, But if they made a sub server for Arche Age most the items and other stuff will be put on a bigger wall grind, then the f2p it self to keep people playing for that sub fee.
But right now I don't see a sub server making it, do to tons of hate around arche age, and most mmo that came out that is sub trying keep there number up after mass about drop off they had.
Sub market is not dead, just no good options for them to jump in a sub market unless there aiming to take wow sub, like FF14 doing with there new flying mounts.
I don't think AA was ever intended to be a B2P game, as there are some items only available in the shop that many folks would consider essential (looking at you, worker's compensation).
You could level the playing field by removing those items but then AA would not be the cutthroat PvP game it is intended to be.
Well, $50 a month per account is a bit steep, but I would easily pay $25 or $30 a month for a "premium service" server were it to have benefits that I think are worthwhile. (active, strong, online moderation being one of them).
Heck, make the benefits enough, you could probably get $50 a month from me.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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This is something that I wish all MMO's would do, P2P and F2P servers. You buy the base game and pay $15-$20 a month, you're put on a P2P server without a cash shop, otherwise, have fun on your F2P server.
That's one reason why I'm hesitant on playing EQN with their F2P model. I'll gladly pay SOE a monthly fee to get rid of their cash shops on a server as long as they include cash shop items as in game drops.
This industry is really due for a subscription price increase anyways. When was the last one? UO started at $9.99 monthly same with AC, EQ started at $9.89 and I can't recall who was the first to jump to $14.99, but that had to be about 15 years ago. I'll gladly pay $20 a month for the right MMO.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
Besides you praising the F2P model because you have apparently figured out how to take advantage of the system and other players, I have basically been reading nothing but complaints about it. He speaks for most of the players I'm sure. Except the penniless who would of course rather play it as a free to play over not at all.
The article I read on the topic said it struggled to retain enough subscription players.
I agree 100%....And without a cash shop.