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Trion trying to get money from APEX dupe banned accounts!
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I think police proceedings are probably a bit extreme, personally i would be more in favour of a 'blacklist' where MMO's can put players names/email addresses on a blacklist for other MMO's to be aware of, its the kind of thing that works pretty well for town center pubs where if someone gets banned from one pub for particularly bad behaviour, they end up being banned from virtually all of them.
After coming back from Vegas, it strikes me how similar this case is to a casino. In both cases, the "house" creates the currency, either APEX or casino chips. This currency is only good within the game, it is worthless in any other context. The "house" can create as much of this currency as they want.
However, if you are caught cheating in a Vegas casino, they won't just ask you to pay for the illegally-gotten chips. You'll get banned and consider yourself lucky that you don't end up with broken fingers, or worse.
And of course, all the casinos share a book of cheaters, so you'll quickly get banned from all the other casinos too.
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And that is exactly why i made the post and the right thing to do not let them back into the casino after they paid up.
I am not even sure if Trion is not liable also for not reporting this theft if it indeed is a criminal offense.
So defrauding a company off 43 APEX worth around $500 is a lesser offense?
I wonder what you have to do for a serious offense.
Yes when a company releases a broken product. If I can get in game currency by just playing the game then how am I defrauding/stealing?
The fact that you know its a broken product and know enough to exploit the broken mechanic tells me you know what you are doing is wrong but you just don't care.
Its your lack of character that's the problem here.
I never used the dupe. But to place blame on the players when a company release a broken product is what I find shady.
And Trion asking for money for their ineptness is laughable.
I laugh at everyone:
I laugh at Trion and the other jokers for having such a buggy product after 3 releases (testing? hello?).
I laugh at people defending their precious AA, from people with legitimate criticisms. (Who can defend some of the stuff, really?)
I laugh at cheaters bitching about getting shaken down for cash, after they got caught cheating.
And I laugh at anyone who really cares at this point anyway, as AA is just another cash shop driven, Korean grinder that is not particularly good, to begin with.
So at this point, people should just write off AA and play something else.
Just stop DM, you parrot this same argument every time now. "Well every other game....." Its not a defense, its not a counter argument, its just parroting the same tired line. Fact is, they dont care if you cheated, theyre fine letting you back in to cheat some more, as long as you spend more cash. Get a new argument pal.
I think this in itself, if it was an isolated incident where the economy was not so "player"-based, it would not be such an issue. But taking the whole picture in, I think it's a really bad move on Trion's part. This comes after countless stumbles beginning with early access and launch. The forums, especially here, show that there are quite a lot of unhappy people with Trion as of late. I'm not sure who's calling the shots, but if it's Hartman, he needs to go before this turns into another 'closed studio' situation.
You are correct.
Its not a defense.
Its not a counter.
Its a statement of fact that people who cheat will just find a way to cheat again.
And Trion is not unique when it comes to this.
I will be right there to proclaim Trion's mishandling of AA but this issue is not unique to them.
Every game company lets cheaters back.
There's a 38 page thread on the official forums on it. It's on page 2 General section. It's a hot topic on the archeage subreddit. I don't think it's trolling.
Except that is absolutely not what is happening in this case.
I doubt even Trion would go that low. That e-mail could very easily be fake.
Bottom line, the only people that need to get offended or upset about this are the people that duped/ exploit or intend to dupe/ exploit.
I don't do either, so I don't care. Why shouldn't Trion make money off cheats? It might even teach them a life lesson along the way.
If that isn't you, the exploiting I mean, then I suspect that you are just one of those people that run around the internet looking for drama to throw your hands up in the air and make noise about.
Cause allowing known cheaters back into the game in exchange for cash is OK, according to you?
God-smacked by common sense....moving on.
Many MMO allowed known cheaters come back in the game just this time is for cash, this case seem like was exploit in the system took them a bit to fix due to coders for the game don't work in trion and trion with there own working on server side trying and testing if it worked, so now the damage is done, the one exploited not winning here if they have the money to pay anything over the cost to even play on there acct. again.
But cheaters are cheaters, think? on banned them going make them stop playing? they just keep doing again and again.
It's not ok with me at all. It is a fairly common asian mmorpg thing though.
There is an old adage "All money ain't good money". In the west players expect developers/publishes to ascribe to that adage and not let cheaters backing; feeling that the game is better w/o those people and their money.