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PyLOTRO Is Dead

EDIT: Thanks to the Linux LOTRO community, this issue has been solved. Here's a link to the official forums post with the new working version of PyLOTRO.

 

ORIGINAL POST: We all knew it was coming, and at last PyLOTRO is dead. You can't log into LOTRO in Linux with it anymore. Anyone have a workaround or alternate method of getting into the game for Linux based clients?

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  • TheGoblinKingTheGoblinKing Member UncommonPosts: 208

    Well LOTRO has been going downhill for quite awhile so theres lots of other MMO's out there but...

     

    If your really hard up on playing LOTRO just go buy yourself some bottom rung bargain basement laptop and hook it up to your monitor for playing LOTRO.

     

    Or you could just make a windows partition and play but dual booting is a royal pain.

     

     

  • aftabbooaftabboo Member Posts: 67

    lotro was a hbo9rribly timed rpg that was released around wows peak.

     

    As out dated as some would argue wow is today (and I agree btw) the way it decimated other mmos in its prime shows how genre breaking it really was once upon a time.

     

    LOTRO never stood a chance at that time.

  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552
    Originally posted by aftabboo

    lotro was a hbo9rribly timed rpg that was released around wows peak.

     

    As out dated as some would argue wow is today (and I agree btw) the way it decimated other mmos in its prime shows how genre breaking it really was once upon a time.

     

    LOTRO never stood a chance at that time.

    That's your opinion. I prefer LOTRO release version to WoW. I think It was a better game but without Blizzard's marketing muscle and timing behind it. LOTRO has been going downhill though unfortunately. In 2007 it was great though...Made WoW look childish and silly by comparison.

     

     

  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by aftabboo

    lotro was a hbo9rribly timed rpg that was released around wows peak.

     

    As out dated as some would argue wow is today (and I agree btw) the way it decimated other mmos in its prime shows how genre breaking it really was once upon a time.

     

    LOTRO never stood a chance at that time.

    I dunno, it may be old but it didn't seem to have any problem rolling over Wildstar and ESO.

  • UproarUproar Member UncommonPosts: 521

    The problem with LOTRO had nothing to do with Wow and everything to do with a UI (at Launch) that was 2-3 years out of date. Not to mention combat that is a snooze fest.

     

    I love everything LOTR.  I even like the world they built in LOTRO, but I could not stand to play the game for long stretches even though I tried multiple times to like it.

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798

    You haven't needed pylotro for a little while now. It has run easier and more reliably than the launcher, but the native launcher does work.

    There has been a change to the structure of the xml file returned from Turbine. The current  third party patchers don't handle the new xml files properly. PyLOTRO is on github, feel free to contribute a patch, or fork and update it if you have those skills.

    If not you can get the game running using the native launcher, but it's a huge pain. The launcher seems to crash a lot when it doesn't connect to Akamai properly. These bugs I believe are related to wine and not the Turbine launcher though.

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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,516
    You first mistake is trying to play games on Linux.  If you want to play games you need to have another partition with at least xp or 7.


  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798

    Just a note if you use Play on Linux or make your own wine prefix here are some suggestions:

    Use wine 1.7.31 - it addresses a long standing TLS bug in wine. It should help to use this wine version.

    Install winetricks or use PoL and add the following additional bits:

    corefonts, vcrun 2005/2008/2010, d3dx9

    You may also need msxml4. This was necessary in the past, but I'm not sure if it's still required.

    Also just to point out the bug with 64bit Linux and 32 bit wine. Some distros have deprecated 32bit libraries and you can get a p11kit error. You can't install p11kit through package management and installing 32 bit libraries don't actually help.

    The last few posts on this thread may help: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?85079-HOWTO-get-LOTRO-to-run-under-OS-X-or-Linux

    This thread talks about the current launcher bug: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?559349-Can-t-log-in-with-Linux-at-the-moment-anybody-else

    Good luck.

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  • GruugGruug Member RarePosts: 1,711

    To me, LOTRO started going down hill shortly after it went "f2p". I played for some time after that but after the initial freeloaders left, the game started to slowly bleed players. Sometime during that time they lost their lead dev as I recall and that may have also added to the lackluster showing. Frankly, LOTRO was hands down much better then most mmo's in its time. F2p and poor development since have just hurt it.

     

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • AcidonAcidon Member UncommonPosts: 795

    And the actual point of the thread goes *WHOOSH* over half their heads.

    *See GameName and Dead in Title, proceed to Quick Reply and GLOOM*

     

    Best of luck with Linux.  I remember getting DOOM to run on it, back when DOOM was a thing and thinking I was pretty clever.  I've never really been able to take Linux that seriously over the years due to Windows pretty much having a monopoly on PC gaming.  I was, however, happy to see wine once again step up and return the gaming side of Linux to open-source.

  • DrakephireDrakephire Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Acidon

    And the actual point of the thread goes *WHOOSH* over half their heads.

    *See GameName and Dead in Title, proceed to Quick Reply and GLOOM*

     

     

    Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Thread goes from LOTRO Linux support to LOTRO itself dead in record time.

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798

    There are quite a lot of good titles now that run natively on Linux or through Steam on Linux. It's still spotty, but it's getting a lot better and is lightyears ahead of where it was just 5 years ago. It's just that mmos, compared to most other corners of the genre, are stuck in an older mindset. Even then some devs (Cryptic) have gone out of their way to try and make their games wine compatible.

    Here are some games that run natively on Linux without wine: Borderlands 2, Civ 5, Planet Explorers, The Witcher 2, Trine 2, Shadowrun Returns, Book of Unwritten Tales, Borderlands: The Presequel, Counter Strike titles, Mount & Blade: Warband, Wasteland 2, RUST, Icewind Dale: Enhanced, Dreamfall Chapters, Tropico 5, Portal Bundle, Half-Life and Valve titles, and quite a lot more.

    There are also quite a few Windows titles that run great under wine (at least through Steam), except most mmos. Some mmos do run great under wine like Neverwinter, STO,  ESO, WoW, and FFXIV. There are a few that run natively under Linux: Wakfu, Eldevin. Others like LotRO have spotty support and break often with updates, like this case. Some like SoE don't really want Linux customers at all and have pretty much stated so on their forums stating that running their mmos in a VM can result in a ban, and possibly wine, but they haven't done so yet.

    Sorry for the derail, but I wanted to address the idea that gaming on Linux is relegated to simple titles from the 90s or bizarre unknown titles. Hopefully Steam OS can push this along.

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  • OSF8759OSF8759 Member Posts: 284
    Originally posted by Acidon

    And the actual point of the thread goes *WHOOSH* over half their heads.

    In retrospect my thread title is to blame for that. I could have worded it better.

    Thanks to those who responded on-topic (and thank you for actually reading the post lol). I guess I'll wait for the github to get updated and go from there. I'm no developer so these things are over my head. I could use a little break anyway.

    Honorary shoutout to Torvaldr above who is absolutely right about the current state of Linux gaming. It's much better than most people realize.

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,798
    Originally posted by OSF8759
    Originally posted by Acidon

    And the actual point of the thread goes *WHOOSH* over half their heads.

    In retrospect my thread title is to blame for that. I could have worded it better.

    Thanks to those who responded on-topic (and thank you for actually reading the post lol). I guess I'll wait for the github to get updated and go from there. I'm no developer so these things are over my head. I could use a little break anyway.

    Did you read the two threads I posted. The second one that addresses this issue has a fix posted in it. You might try that to see if it resolves your issue.

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  • OSF8759OSF8759 Member Posts: 284
    Thank you for that Torvaldr, I'll try that.
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member RarePosts: 4,761
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Others like LotRO have spotty support and break often with updates, like this case.

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    Sorry for the derail, but I wanted to address the idea that gaming on Linux is relegated to simple titles from the 90s or bizarre unknown titles. Hopefully Steam OS can push this along.

    No need to sorry, it was a great 'dreail' :) Nice list, luckily Linux is more and more viable for gaming as well (both natively or with wine) as the time goes.

     

    I have to agree with the statement above, for Turbine Linux was always sorta "community supported" feature (in fact that's why I've never meddled with it, have a gear with Linux just for the fun but know a dude who's on Linux and he said in LotRO's case rather stay away from it...).

    Also after updates not only the Linux version goes awry usually, but Win and Mac versions as well. The login issues Torvaldr mentioned in the other thread became so frequent after U15 that during the last week there were 1 big and 2 smaller outages (not because of login issues "by the letter", it was for OS update, maintenance, etc), last one was 2 days ago, and luckily now it seems fine and working. Probably the community will soon update the launcher for Linux too, as I see there was a post yesterday already on the thread Torvaldr linked above.

  • OSF8759OSF8759 Member Posts: 284
    I edited the original post as my issue has been resolved, and hopefully this will help others having a similar issue. Thanks everyone!
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