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MMOs need to die and Interactive Tabletops need to rise!

Imagine how much better it would be if instead of having these watered down MMOs we had a beefy interactive tabeltop game for the PC!

 

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  • apb2011apb2011 Member UncommonPosts: 168
    I shit my pants
  • TheutusTheutus Member UncommonPosts: 636
    You mean like nwn 1?
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,070
    Wizards of the Coast was working on a virtual tabletop for D&D some years ago and then the project got scrapped. Apparently they've brought the idea back and are outsourcing it to another company. There's also one made by Paizo, the company that does Pathfinder.
  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552

    Why can't we have both?

     

  • sunandshadowsunandshadow Member RarePosts: 1,985
    Wat.  Tabletops aren't really even that much like MMOs, I don't think one can substitute for the other.  Personally I've never been a tabletop fan; playing through a CYOA interactive story written by a GM or diceless online roleplaying with no GM are both more fun and more comfortable for me.
    I want to help design and develop a PvE-focused, solo-friendly, sandpark MMO which combines crafting, monster hunting, and story.  So PM me if you are starting one.
  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    Originally posted by Theutus
    You mean like nwn 1?

    Actually yes, but with more emphasis on player created content.

    Im talking a game that's set up like a lowfi MMO with heavy tabletop gameplay.

     

    in other words heavy char creator, heavy rulesets including death penalty, and heavy creation elements for story's andante reactive game boards. But with limited graphics, using portraits and texts tobeleaborate action where a dice roll is present.

     

    So even as far as I say it's a more cinematic MuD

  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552
    Originally posted by sludgebeard
    Originally posted by Theutus
    You mean like nwn 1?

    Actually yes, but with more emphasis on player created content.

    Im talking a game that's set up like a lowfi MMO with heavy tabletop gameplay.

     

    in other words heavy char creator, heavy rulesets including death penalty, and heavy creation elements for story's andante reactive game boards. But with limited graphics, using portraits and texts tobeleaborate action where a dice roll is present.

     

    So even as far as I say it's a more cinematic MuD

     

    Ah ok. I thought you meant virtual tools for actual tabletop roleplaying such as Roll20 (which I'd also like to see get better by the way).  I'd like to see what you're asking for but doubt it would ever go beyond a niche audience. It's kind of sad that most current MMO players have probably never even played a tabletop game. 

     

    Definitely something the right group of people could probably get crowdfunding support for. I'd definitely back it if it looked like a competently run project.

     

     

     

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592
    Originally posted by sludgebeard
    Originally posted by Theutus
    You mean like nwn 1?

    Actually yes, but with more emphasis on player created content.

    Im talking a game that's set up like a lowfi MMO with heavy tabletop gameplay.

     

    in other words heavy char creator, heavy rulesets including death penalty, and heavy creation elements for story's andante reactive game boards. But with limited graphics, using portraits and texts tobeleaborate action where a dice roll is present.

     

    So even as far as I say it's a more cinematic MuD

    The player-built worlds and mods were far, far, better than any of the pre-built modules for NWN1.  I spent over half a decade player on custom player-created worlds and it's to this day the best online RPG experience I've ever had.

     

    NWN1 is likely as close to a virtual tabletop as you're ever going to get.

    <3

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Originally posted by Forgrimm

    Wizards of the Coast was working on a virtual tabletop for D&D some years ago and then the project got scrapped. Apparently they've brought the idea back and are outsourcing it to another company. There's also one made by Paizo, the company that does Pathfinder.

     

    This is around too: http://roll20.net/
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  • Beatnik59Beatnik59 Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by sludgebeard
    Originally posted by Theutus
    You mean like nwn 1?

    Actually yes, but with more emphasis on player created content.

    Im talking a game that's set up like a lowfi MMO with heavy tabletop gameplay.

     

    in other words heavy char creator, heavy rulesets including death penalty, and heavy creation elements for story's andante reactive game boards. But with limited graphics, using portraits and texts tobeleaborate action where a dice roll is present.

     

    So even as far as I say it's a more cinematic MuD

    I'd be with you all the way if we could have 3D instead of 2D (avatars instead of portraits).

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by waynejr2
    Originally posted by Forgrimm
    Wizards of the Coast was working on a virtual tabletop for D&D some years ago and then the project got scrapped. Apparently they've brought the idea back and are outsourcing it to another company. There's also one made by Paizo, the company that does Pathfinder.

     

    This is around too: http://roll20.net/

    A great place to be,,,

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  • AbaxialAbaxial Member UncommonPosts: 140
    Originally posted by sludgebeard

    Imagine how much better it would be if instead of having these watered down MMOs we had a beefy interactive tabeltop game for the PC!

     

    It wouldn't be good at all. I like MMORPGs and I'll stick with them. Duh, that's what this site is for ...

    If you want your "interactive tabletop", have it as well, not instead of.

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,814
    It would be innovative and that's a taboo word in the online gaming industry. So no chance sorry. :)
  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    Originally posted by Gdekk
    So basically http://store.steampowered.com/app/286160/?

    Awesome! Im going to have to check this out.

     

    Its not exactly what im talking about but its close, give a virtual space for tabletoppers!

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,814
    It only has a limited RPG kit but that's a great find Gdekk.
  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610

    Why do MMOs need to die for this to happen? Is that the only way to get people to play interactive tabletops, by forcing them? :)

     

    I'd rather just go down my local Games Workshop and play there.

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  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    Originally posted by sludgebeard

    Imagine how much better it would be if instead of having these watered down MMOs we had a beefy interactive tabeltop game for the PC!

     

    Where can I sign up?

     

    How about this: Imagine if your friendly neighborhood DM went f2p with a live cash shop.  You are playing table top D&D, and he says "Do you guys want to fight the dragon with what you've got? I can roll you up some bonus damage weapons for a couple of bucks." 

     

    It just wouldn't be right, would it? I hope interactive tabletop games don't do this either.


  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by sludgebeard

    in other words heavy char creator, heavy rulesets including death penalty, and heavy creation elements for story's andante reactive game boards. But with limited graphics, using portraits and texts tobeleaborate action where a dice roll is present.

    So even as far as I say it's a more cinematic MuD

    not quite what you had in mind but still different than what we have today

     

    a kickstarter with heavy emphasis on player story rpg

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stlhood/storium-the-online-storytelling-game

     

    from article

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/09/storium-pen-and-paper-rpg-pc/

    Computers suck at stories. We’ve been trying to create AIs that will make writers redundant for decades and it’s just not happening. Even clever, experimental systems like Storybricks are using sophisticated technology to create stories which amount to “There are bandits on the road.” If you want plot twists more complex than “And then I killed the guy”, you’re going to need a writer.

    That’s why I’m interested in Storium, a web based card game inspired by ideas from pen and paper RPGs like Fiasco, FATE and Apocalypse World. It’s a game in which the players collaboratively tell a story and the computer only exists to do the housekeeping and ensure they play by the rules. It’s a game where everyone is an author, not an actor, and you don’t play to win, you play to find out what happens. And if none of this paragraph made any sense to you, then don’t worry, because in order to fully explain what Storium is, I’m going to have to give you a crash course in the last ten years of pen and paper RPGs.

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