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7.4 mil? More like 450-500k subs at best...
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Maybe in your household people fly off the handle over posts on a website, but not in mine. So how about neither of us fabricate context for each others posts...
I would do the math and agree...the actual subs in the millions? That's what needs to be checks. Not the OP opinion. That tired game may still have millions of tired fanbois, but not near that many subs.
If it does...how sad for the MMO community...srsly
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
They sold millions of copies of their last crappy expansion. Not hundreds of thousands. Millions.... Are you dense enough to think non-subscribers are buying the expansion?
Doesn't take much to earn five stars or a title around this joint. Just bash WoW, and praise crap WoW knockoffs.
Pretty logical way of figuring subscriptions, Xpacs sold = subs.
Millions according to who? Let me guess? Blizzard? By the way if you read thread we are clearly discussing about now, which is the end of 2014 not 2012. A lot of things are changed within those 2 years. Fact is I do not have an accurate source to see exactly how many people purchased the expansion even then at retail price and I certanly don't trust Blizzard. One thing I have as a fact is my experience with the game and how it felt being part of it. Combine that with the state of the game and the industry now and that's enough info anyone could get.
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I believe the problem here may be terminology. There are three issues here:
1. The site referenced seems to list Concurrent Users (CCU). This is the amount of players on at one time. This is only a fraction of the people who actually have a subscription.
2. The majority of the WoW subscription numbers has always been in asia. Roughly 2/3 of the subscription numbers come from Asia.
3. The subscription numbers for Asia are measured differnetly than in the west (because subs are illegal). They count any account that has logged in during the month using a timecard as an active sub. Timecards are prepaid cards with minutes of game time. So, to be active, you need only have used one minute during the month.
I was just about to comment about the irony of his profile avatar. You beat me to it lol.
I play on Thrall mostly and many of the Arena players have no issue finding people to PvP with on the server alone using trade chat. There are some great guilds that focus on PvP and assist members with rankings. I think you hit a brick wall and just made excuses instead of working to find answers.
Didn't the season end for Arena anyways? I thought it was on pause until the new changes and xpac gets launched and worked out.
I'd be surprised if the amount of Asians only logging on to WoW for a few minutes every month made up a significant amount of that 7.4 million number ((if they even exist in the first place...)
Activision Blizzard is a publicly traded company which comes with it's own set of rules, first you need to open your books and show all your numbers and no, you can't simply cook them up like you make it out here.
Quote from Wikipedia:
Publicly traded companies are generally required to have their accounts audited by outside auditors, and then publish the accounts to their shareholders. Besides the cost, this may make useful information available to competitors. Various other annual and quarterly reports are also required by law. In the United States, the SarbanesOxley Act imposes additional requirements.
This thread should die. The OP is clearly trolling. He's one of those small minded people who can't see beyond their own nose. Do you really think he nkows how public companies work? Of course not, he probably doesn't even know what a public company is. He doesn't believe Blizzard because he only wants to troll. Then he goes on to talk how this is only his opinion so he can't be wrong. Can you believe it? So if I said that sky is pink, it can't be true because it's my opinion.
Stupidity at its best.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Lol, you don't think there's millions of subs? Really?
Wait... are you one of those folks who believes the moon landing was staged?
Seriously, the length the MMO snobs and WoW-haters on this board go through to discredit the most popular MMO of all time is hilarious. I swear, you guys have turned hating on WoW into your own private sandbox MMO, in which you can terraform the facts to back up any argument you want about why WoW is failing. It's truly hilarious.
Here's a fact for you: WoW has lost more subs in its lifetime than any two games you have ever loved have ever had during their lifetimes. And now you are honestly trying to convince people that WoW still doesn't hold millions of subs, just because it's that important to you to believe that it shows some kind of philosophical shift in gamer's wants and needs that more closely match your own.
Here's a newsflash: The casual gamer is still the most important gamer on the market, because there are more of them than any other kind. And WoW caters to that. Doesn't matter what you think of the WoW model...for good or bad. Blizzard figured this out a long time ago, and they'll be the top mmorpg on the market until the day they decide to pull the plug. The MMO snobs will just have to deal with that fact.
Wow is easily the most populated sub today, with subs in the millions. It will only grow after the xpac is released. Do yourself a favor and stop gnashing your teeth about it and crying conspiracy. It makes you look silly.
I guess you missed the irony in your own post, then.