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I have been playing since 2004
Rekindle
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in EVE Online
and its still awesome.
EvE is an evolving metastructure that allows for a universe of nerds to fly spaceships with other people. Its less a game than a hobby.
All that talk about spreadsheets is just a reflection of the complexity of Eve. You can make it simple like you are going to run a couple missions or complicated like a multi week long plan to build a big ship.
Eve is awesome because it really is sandbox and i'v been on the bitching about eve wagon before but ultimately its an amazing experience.
The changes over the years do speak to a level of professionalism.
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I hear you!
Addicted since 2003.
Here from 2006.
You are absolutely right. For some reason every time I read the word Spreadsheet in the forums I think they are saying methaphorically 'dull', 'no impressive graphics, it's a lot of space', 'you have a ship' and moreover 'it's a question of Calculus...';
Well, that's right, maybe, but for me it has impressive graphics, it's the funnier and more interesting, engagins MMORPG I have never played and above all it requires a lot of preparation and dedication. Maybe We should call it a little bit of passion.
Is it a nerd game? Yes, it is.
Is it a game only for nerds? No, it is not. If you can't calculate the square root of 42 in a second(6,4807)it doesn't mean that you are not totally prepared and fully and mentally capacitated to go in EVE, start or follow a career and be one of the best, or maybe the best one at what you do, because you really can be it, by your own merits !. This 'You' is directed to the people that whine about EVE or simply think is not worth it; believe me, is worh it, and the overall quality of the game is even more worthy.
Of couse, in EVE you can have big looses. So, be patient, study, make things and Flying in space is pure adventure! That's the main point! Is freedom, not one kind of freedom but really in EVE you can be whatever you want... and follow your path, be a solitaire of a corp member, a market warrior billionaire or a pirate, a vagabond, a tradesman, a men of industry, a corporate General, or an Assault Soldiet... And I even not beginning to say all the things you can do and live in EVE...
So that, be yourself. And try EVE online. If you wish, of course. For me, it's awesome.
Fly Safe & Thanks For All The Fish!
It is a question of fangs.
To be honest I havent touched EVE in years because of the many "horror" stories i hear about its community. Finally decided to give it a try half a year ago and i love it. Its huge, its complex, its fun and its not all that hard to avoid griefers, you just need to get rid of carebare attitude. All in all im seriously impressed with the game, especially with its true sandbox world.
My only problem is that if you realy want to do anything ingame you need to have a few hours for a play session and between my college and job im kinda limited on that area. Still fun when i take some time for it
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
@flizzer:
I think Life Is Feudal team is working in that direction. That game is in a pre-Alpha state so far, but the statements and the process involved tends to show that LiF is going that way. You don't have to buy things from the game, everything is done by players, like in EVE. Is Open world PVP, so as in EVE, You must do a lot of things to progress, so as in EVE, and what you become is YOUR choice and your responsability, as in EVE.
And yes, you will see trees, and Horses, and what I think is a pretty full realistic Graphic Design. Of course people will whine about LiF but that is the EVE with no ships and no Spreadsheet. It's a total Sandbox with all the traditional MMORPG's elements on it.
Another option is Mortal Online. They are doing better, little by little the game is becoming more a game than a chore and is totally payable and enjoyable now.
Archeage is not an alternative. It's pure BS for me. I prefer Lineage II to Archeage, there is more energy and originality in Lineage II that in AA.
EQNext will be a kind of SWG-Sandbox with a lot of original features that will be pretty rich and when implemented will have an impact in the MMO community, as it follows the SWG philosophy of the Sandbox with the right Themepark Features to make it playable, rich in all aspects and a game of an overall quality.
My two cents.
It is a question of fangs.
I've been playing on and off since 2006, its an amazing game that is in my opinion wildly underrated. Its a game that from the outside perspective is hard to understand and wrap your head around. And yes, when I hear the term "Spreadsheet online" I smile because I know it refers, as OP said, to the complexity and depth of EVE.
To people saying that the community is toxic; I say this, the community of EVE is so passioned about their game and their universe, I have literally never seen anything like it before. The level of politics, the level of depth & complexity, personal responsibilities, the level of impact a single player can have on the game... its impalpable.
As soon as you realize this as a player....
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I began playing on the day of release and dropped it permanently after the Erotica1 scandal, seeing how most players were defending this piece of trash.
To cut to the chase, EvE's playerbase has turned from general MMO players to online sociopaths using the game as a platform to get cheap kicks from others. There's also huge RMTs, and people in null who respond to CTAs are basically working for free and providing their alliance leaders with some nice monthly income, the politics of EvE being that on a single shard server, it's great for your e-peen to hold space, and people will pay real money for it.
It's no more an online game, it's pure metagaming, RL lies and mindgames. If you enjoy that, you've got issues. Games are made to have collective fun.
And before someone says RMT is conspiracy theory check this out
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2jb8n2/a_rose_by_any_other_name/
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6iLrAvsyCpkcGlZM3dPVm5UMW8/edit
Dinsdale was right all along
I've been playing on and off since 2007 with almost 5 years of paid subscription fees on up to 4 accounts at a time.
Yeah, I like the game.
In fact, I think going forward I'm just going to keep my subs running year round, even if I do step out from time to time to try something new, because eventually I always come back so might as well keep the training rolling.
And who knows, eventually I might actually find the time to play enough to earn the ISK to pay for my accounts.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Have played extensively from 2004 to 2011, but then decided to let go of it, as I didn't like the 0.0-battles anymore, or better said in what they've turned into.
Having received the ten days free for all my characters I've now logged in the first time for three years and so much of the interface has changed and I need to setup all the overview-stuff etc...
Ian Novarider ... 2004 ...
EVE Online ... an old love with varying intensity over the years
Have fun
I had 3 accounts my last account stop at 1-12-14. This game becomes more and pvp game. For the miner is no room any more.
All the ice belts are nerved, mining and you get jumped. and your hulk is dead. besides the cargo transporter are nerved once you transport 36k now only 24k the orca has now several storingswholes,
Also the hulk has same storage as the receiver.
played since may 2003. The game does not give my satisfactions as it use to be.
AK
So far I'm still enjoying my return to EVE, and while I am mining some, it's just another tool added to my kit, and not something I do relentlessly.
In fact, I'm just figuring out how escalations and dead space complexes work in my local mining space, and will be exploring opportunities with them a bit more in the future.
Already I had one take me in to Low sec and I managed to defeat the room before the "bad guys" managed to scan me down. (yes, I watched dscan relentlessly (my previous wormhole experience served me well) and saw the Sisters Combat Probes deployed just as i was finishing up my looting so I got the heck out of there quickly)
That's what I like about EVE right now, with 4 pilots, some around 90M SP in many different areas, I have a wide variety of activities to pursue. Still need to work on planetary exploration and industry, sometime in 2015 for sure.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
2005-- I love Eve.
^ that is a common misconception. If you do read my link and try the game please join Eve University.
Here are some guides
In every mmo you start you have that "noob" feeling, no diffrence in Eve Online.
After 7 to 14 days when all the basics are mastered you evolve...
Join a corp that suits your playstyle and ask those gazilion question that are stuck in your head.
While most say the Eve community is the worste ever, i can say its the best you will ever see.
So many people willing to explain and assist you on your journey.
I have yet to play an mmo that gets to a level of Eve Online, or one that comes even close to it.
To all people holding themselves back affraid to make the jump....do it....you will not regret it even if you lose everything you have o7
I used to be the same as you. I was never a fan of sci-fi, but after a while it sort of grew on me.
You're just looking for excuses not play, aren't you ?
Because if you theory is correct, no new players have survived in EVE since about 2005 ?
It doesn't work that way. Just because you've been playing for 10 years doesn't mean you have skill level 10,000 in battlecruisers. It only takes a few months to become 100% competitive in the low/medium ship classes. Specially if you use the help and advice freely dished-out by corps like EVE University.
The doors to EVE are not sealed shut, they do require some effort to open though.
I must say I have heard wonderful things about this game and I have tried to play it, but something in it didn't attract me so much.
I did the 2 weeks trial several times, but for some reason I couldn't get myself to play it for longer period of time.
Can't really point out the exact reason, I guess it's just not for me...
That being said I am not a fan of the game due to its pve, but I started from nothing and worked up myself to flying carriers and the best mining stuff with no ones help but mining and salvaging missions. If I could do it others could too.