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huh? now I'm lost...I was explaining to you my appeal for it. I also think it's a part of the RPG genre that is not in other genres. There are SEVERAL RPG's I can remember starting over because I screwed up my build. Fallout 1 and 2, Torment, FFVII and FFVIII....the list goes on.
That's why it's really funny that some talk down on this approach but want to play MMORPG's...why not just go play a MOBA or CoD?
I think you might have... :P
The game does have it's moments, but I think we can all agree here that it didn't reach even close to the playerbase size and success that people and funcom were expecting. The biggest mistake IMO was having the questing and storyline as the foundation of the game. Not that I have anything against that, but they put too much of their focus on the story, that all other parts of the game are lacking in features. Essentially the game feels empty and abandoned after the storyline is finished. There is nothing going on, just a bunch of players sitting in agartha looking for dungeon runs. The ingame world just doesn't feel lively enough because there are almost no open world activities in the game at all, other than the christmas/anniversary zone bosses. It doesn't feel like a living world, it feels like a lobby for people who are waiting to enter some instance (dungeon, pvp, scenario etc)
This feeling of emptiness has made me quit the game multiple times. Outside of questing there is very little, if anything going on in the gameworld, it just feels like an empty shell. Finishing the story is comparable to finishing the story in GTA - you can still roam the world, but don't expect any content at all. Funcom obviously realised that so they made it possible to repeat most quests in the game, but that isn't really a long-lasting solution.
The community is also 90% made up of people who are doing the story, and a few veterans amongst all the newbs. There are 0 active youtube channels covering this game. Compare this to games like runescape, which has hundreds of active youtubers, some of who have 100k+ subscribers just from making RS vids and nothing else. Part of this reason is that there is nothing to cover in this game. Yes you can make videos of builds, but there is no risk, no secrets, no exciting pvp, no super-hard content.
Things like pvp ladders, full loot pvp zones, survival modes, world events etc etc could go a long way in making the endgame community more active. Overall the main reason why this game has mediocre success is because it fails miserably at keeping people playing after the storyline.
3 thing killed it for me
combat , animations (looks worse than some random chinese fp2 ._.) , and not on my language, i understand english, played lots of mmorpgs on english , but TSW is special in that regard and any1 that played know why.
so i left the game after playing for a while tried to comeback but wasnt having fun
Joined - July 2004
Interesting,
If I read you right, you're saying that the games story line isn't compatible with the grind and repeat mechanics ? I can see that, after all how many times can you find out the cleaning lady is a spy, rescue Danny's model plane for him, or solve mystery X. Once you have done it, you have done it repeating to gain points, is like reading the same chapter in a book over and over again.
I'll add this to the list
hehe... TSW uses proper English, no wonder it is going to irritate so many people. TSW writers are amazing and really did a great job with stories and dialogues.
TSW actually made me look up words in dictionary and i thought my English is excellent.
I think he was saying that he made a really poor build and couldn't hack the content cuz it was too hard...did I miss something??
Yes, quite a bit.
ROFL
At some point I must have figured out the game
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7546121@N08/12647344684/
Seeing as before I stopped playing I was in the top 100 on the pvp charts, and one of the wealthiest, best equipped players in the game.
Something for you to think about, The people that dislike the game might just understand it a little better than you. I know hard for you to believe isn't it.
Fanboi much? Your idiotic lines made me post in this thread. Funcom can be defended, but only if you take a realistic view it is an average game with a few highlights and a few mishaps.
Dude, just stay on topic, please. You cant make TSW better then GW2. It has nothing to do with taste. GW2 is just a better game overall. Every race has a different CITY with enough story different from every race's perspective.
Some bosses have tacitcs that need to be followed or its a total wipe. You can do a worldboss each 15 minutes in GW2 and find DOUBLE the players teaming to kill something you can only find at the NY raid in TSW or 2x a year.
GW2 was awareded best game of 2012 by IGN, Gamespot and TIME to name a few. What did TSW win in 2012? A reduction of Funcom staff by 50% because TSW did so great?
You are the only troll in this thread and damaging to TSW's defense in this argument. Leave it to other people who actually come up with good bullits, please.
My definition of "killed game" is:
"No threads are made anymore claiming the game is dead."
WoW died before it launched, and had been dying every day since.
awesome for you...and I didnt say that people dont like the game because of it's difficulty, I am saying your rant states that the game is too difficult and that everytime you go to a new zone your build is garbage...Im just translating what Im reading.
So with your top 100 pvp rating and awesome gear, why are you complaining about the difficulty level of the game?
Id have to agree TSW isnt dead. There are still enough folks in TSW to enjoy the game properly if you do some effort searching the forum for an active guild or find the proper channels. Or use Agartha for pugs. It's a shame you have to, though.
That one dude showing off his 1b pax might have known a lot about TSW as a game but even he left. I know a lot of vets who have. So at endgame, ya, it has some issues with retention.
It's a very simple answer.
It was originally made as a COOP singleplayer game, and it shows.
All the best and interesting bits are done in instances or with small groups.
All the "MMO" elements are half assed garbage.
Funcom had an abysmal reputation coming off of AoC, so not a lot tried TSW. Those that did, either burned through the small amount of interesting singleplayer content, and like a singleplayer game, quit, or they hit the boring MMO elements, and quit.
If this game was FTP from the start, or sole like GW2, it would have done way better. BUt people don't pay monthly fees for singleplayer games (SWTOR).
So the point of the OP is to...well, what exactly? Compile a definitive list of why TSW Is Dead And Here's The Proof And I Made It Easy For You To Reject It?
Or is it more like, RIP TSW, and here's some crowdsourced hindsight so Funcom "can learn something"?
What killed TSW? How do you even define that? I can make a list for every MMO ever released about its problems. So we are talking about financial success? Game population? Overall popularity? Many posters have stated they enjoyed the game but eventually left for reason X. And yet TSW remains in the top 20 rated games on some sites (like MMORPG.) But no one argues it's a huge financial success or has millions of players like WoW.
So TSW is dead because OP has reminded us "the numbers don't lie." Fine, it's dead, the links are posted and now the big community list of Why It's Bad is nicely integrated into the list. Who is the audience?
You really need to stop being so defensive and actually read and think about what is being said.
Just because something is obviously poorly done such as Egypt, a feature even people in maxed out gear avoid because it's combat every step of the way. Doesn't mean it's too "Hard". Hard can be fun or it can be just plain annoying. The Machine Tyrant is fun and hard. Egypt is neither hard nor fun just annoying. Hell Fallen is both hard and annoying, nobody likes praying that bugs won't destroy your run after putting in a few hours.
Obviously bad features are still obviously bad features.
Because there's absolutely nothing trollish about coming over from the GW2 forums to the TSW forums, creating a thread called "What Killed The Secret World," filling it with a specious list of Things You Don't Like, and then proceeding to list why GW2 is so much better.
Pardon me ?
I am not now nor have I ever been a GW2 player.
Also the "List of specious things" only the first 6 were mine, the rest were culled from comments of people in this thread.
I note that you aren't making a list of the positive comments about the game in this same thread. But, no, you aren't doing a pros and cons here are you? What are you doing here, actually?
Im not being defensive...Im telling you in the plainest English I can find in my vocabulary that Egypt really wasn't that hard or annoying. Are there mobs spawning and running toward the city over and over again..yes, is it by design, yes. Does it make sense, yes. Is it annoying to some people, maybe, wasn't to me.
Also, to minimilize Egypt to one small section of it is kinda disingenuous. Egypt is actually my favorite area and an extremely enjoyable experience, especially the 2nd area, but you then continued to go after Trans for having mobs that react differently to abilities that use to help people kill mobs...now it doesnt...but you can click on the mob to find out what their powers are, so it's not rocket science.
What's so funny is that people complain all the time that AI in games is terrible and needs to be better...In an RPG, mobs are made harder by having resilience to certain skills, better defense, incredibly strong magic spells...that's what's done in The Secret World and it's done better than most games....yet nothing but complaints that mobs are "annoying" because they cause a challenge for the player.
Am I a fanboy for Funcom...yup and proud of it...do you have to take anything I say seriously...nope, but this is my explanation and I dont water it down and I am more than happy to go into as much detail as you'd like.
I am making a list of the problems that destroyed The Secret World.
This is spelled out exactly in the title and the first post.