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  • Drunk-fuDrunk-fu Member UncommonPosts: 133
    Originally posted by Kopogero

    ...myself included with ARPG such as Path of Exile, but that kept me interested for only 3 weeks. So, I'm wondering if there are other old time MMORPG gamers out there who have migrated or intend to toward other multiplayer PC gamers out there?

    $ for some might not be as important out there, but definitely it is for me...Honestly, I would've gladly continue to be involved with this genre November when WOW:WoD comes...I just can't seem to stomach the $140 to $230 price tag to enjoy it for 6 months to a year...After all it's just one single, outdated game.

    The rest "F2P MMORPG's" out there seem too restrictive or not worth it, plus lack of content updates to be enjoyed or maeby there is some gem out of the many I could be missing. Anyways, my focus for the time being is to move away from this genre to other multiplayer PC games and there are just soooo many, which can only be harder to choose from. So many recommend so many different games and then some are paid to, especially the prominent reviewers on known sites.

    Well, i got into the genre like, huh, 7 years ago or so.

    But since there is nothing im interested in, im moving back to my roots, single player fps, and occasionally rts, rpg.

    Besides these genres, i recently got into smite.

    Which is a moba, and a helluwa lot of fun.

    Unlike other moba games, it is 3d third person with decent graphics.

    I highly recommend it!

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,773
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

    Not really "migrating", as I have played all kinds of games previous to MMOs. My path just does not wander down the MMO path very much anymore.

    That may change when the definition of MMO is further broadened (as seen in the trend of my websites).

    Personally i play games that is fun to me, and not any specific genre. It just happens that because of whatever reasons, more games i enjoy are called MMO, and hence I "returned".

     

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,972

    I started playing video games long before there was anything that resembled an MMO.  I've always enjoyed a variety of game genres the same way I enjoy different types of movies/TV/books/magazines etc. So, definitely no "migrating" for me.

    I will say that for me and my RL/online friends, the interest in MMOs has most certainly dwindled as the majority of us do not enjoy what most of them have become. If it wasn't for EVE, I wouldn't know anyone that even played an MMO at this time. Go back 5 or 6 years ago and that's a completely different story.

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  • HarikenHariken Member RarePosts: 2,434

    I went back to wow after 6 years. And i still play the f2p base game of Anarchy online. Other mmo's the new ones seem to be all hype and nothing new. Also playing Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2.  I think when it comes to mmo's i'm all set. I think the genre is stuck in a rut and won't get out of it for a long time. So i'm just sticking with my favorite 2 mmo's. Its tough on mmo veterans. Been playing them since 99/2000. It would take alot to make me think a new game is different. I've tried most of them and find they are are really the same with maybe a gimmick thrown in. When i talk to my guild in AO, they all feel the same as i do. And are even sorry for wasting time and money on these new mmo's. The basic of every mmo will always be the same. Go kill stuff or retrieve something over and over so you level up and do it again. I wish mmo sites like this could be more critical of the genre but understand that they can't. They have to make a living.

    I like this video.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 35,162

    I play EVE.  I think going forward I will pretty much always play EVE, as it is one of the last bastions of old school MMORPG.

    Perhaps one of the newer indy titles will break into the big time, if so I'll be checking them out.

    Outside of that, when my favorite DAOC freeshard comes back online I'll return for that 2003- SI experience.

    Yeah, there are other genre's of games, I don't enjoy them, they've changed too much from what I enjoyed back in the day as well. (where the hell is my graph paper?) Now they all tell stories and stuff..... though I hear WL2 might be something I'll enjoy so I'll likely give that a go.

     

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  • KuinnKuinn Member UncommonPosts: 2,072

    Lets see my most memorable gaming moments this year that I remember at the top of my head: Hmm... Err... Hold on it'll come to me soon... Hmm... Hurr... Just a sec... Durr...

     

    Well I did play CoH2 with the new armies pretty hardcore for two weeks or so, and then more casually a month or two. Other than that, there was the generic MMORPG launch of ESO where I never finished even the main story. I think I participated in some other MMO launch too but cant remember which game it was. Some open betas too but restrained my self from buying the games.

     

    Was D3 expansion released this year or late last year? I'm not sure but it took only few days of casual play to finish the original story + new story with brand new Crusader, it was fun, but not worth the price tag.

     

    Other than those moments, I fired up a ton of old games just to realize after a couple of hours or minutes play that yes, I was done with those games and they were not interesting again.

     

    I've always played a bit of this and a bit of that, mostly MMORPG's, RPG's, and RTS games though. Lately I havent found much to play in any of those genres or any other. Feels like the gaming industry currently can provide me with around 2-3 months of interesting games to play a year and the rest of the time is waiting.

     

    I love games like Mass Effect, but I only play them through once, and after a couple of years a second time, there's only so much a single player game can provide. Few weeks more if they have some addictive multiplayer grind like ME3.

     

    I do love gaming still, there's just so few games that really make me feel excited and sucks me in. Everything is standard, and new features that I keep waiting for in games are never there.

     

    Dragon Age 3 cannot come soon enough!

  • SzczepanXSzczepanX Member UncommonPosts: 40
    I left the mmorpg genre too, currently for arpgs, playing Marvel Heroes. Got no time for mmorpg, anything than full commitment is half assed.
  • SomeHumanSomeHuman Member UncommonPosts: 560
    I agree with an earlier reply that it is mostly the acidic communities.  If I can't seem to fall in with a moderate sized guild  that has some social good folks that like to play the game, then I move on to another guild or another game.  I think the reason I'm so fond of the time I spent playing Minecraft, which is one of my first major moves from MMORPG's when gaming on my pc, is due to the awesome server I randomly fond of about twenty active adults with careers who liked the game and were social.  I think mmorpg's need to get less-massive to find the community and fun we really want.  I also agree we shouldn't limit ourselves.  Play the demos and alphas of all genres, even if you don't think you will like it at first, you might be surprised

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,773
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Yeah, there are other genre's of games, I don't enjoy them, they've changed too much from what I enjoyed back in the day as well. (where the hell is my graph paper?) Now they all tell stories and stuff..... though I hear WL2 might be something I'll enjoy so I'll likely give that a go.

     

    That is just easy mode tedious work (yes, i remember using graph paper to map Might & Magic, the first one).

    I am glad those days are over.

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Ah I remember drawing a map for an old spectrum game called Bloodwych, and dhsovering with horror that parts of the nap rotated :) good times but things have moved on not to mention that worlds are larger and more complex now.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 2,997

    Honestly I am thinking of going back to single or co-op rpgs until mmo developers get their shit together and stop treating online role playing games like unregulated gambling or 1 or 2 of the indie mmorpgs show promise as they near release.

     

    If Pathfinder ends up being fun and truly brings back the feel of a D&D/old school mmo regardless if it doesn't look all shiny and new. RPG playstyle combined with old school mmo community interaction is all I require ... and what is missing with more of today's mmos.

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  • kjempffkjempff Member RarePosts: 1,649
    Originally posted by Hariken

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    Watch this video. If you don't get it, then you have no idea what a mmorpg is. I did not play swg but other mmorpgs, but the message is exactly the same.

    The last new mmorpg was made over a decade ago. Migrating to other genres.. If you played any new mmo labelled game the last ten years, you are already playing a new genre.

  • RollieJoeRollieJoe Member UncommonPosts: 451
    I switched from MMO's to MOBA's.  I'd like to come back to MMO's, but no games out in the past 5 years (or probably the next 5) that interest me.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I still play MMOs, but the last few weeks have I been playing Age of Wonders 3 with friends online, amazingly fun if you like turn based strategy like Heroes and Warlords.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 9,919

    Not intentionally, I generally don't play mmos w/o the RPG. Planetside 2 was an exception. At the sametime I've spent the last week playing a little indie named Robocraft;  it's scratching my instant action itch.

     

    My want for instant action got me to thinking do I need all the stuff that comes along with traditional mmorpgs? Stuff like the questing, leveling, and crafting. At this point I don't think I do.

     

    Let me use ESO for an example. Just give me a max level toon and  some skill points. Let me gain more skill point through battle. That's all I would need. When more mmos start to go this route I could certainly see them siphoning off mmorpg pvprs.

  • RobokappRobokapp Member RarePosts: 6,175

    leveling made sense when leveling took a year.

     

    now that it takes a week...its no secret that game begins once leveling ends.

     

    through their actions, players have made it pretty clear they dont want levels...

     

    EVE Online got that part right...in 2003.

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  • ikcinikcin Member RarePosts: 2,206
    Today MMORPGs are boring, stupid and easy RPGs with some multiplayer. And in fact RPGs are far better. For example compare TESO and Skyrim. Without any doubt Skyrim is the better game. To call games like GW2, TESO and WildStar MMORPGs is even wrong, because they are not. Any game, where the player play in competition and cooperation with NPCs, instead of other players is not MMORPG. That is why players go to games where they can play with other players, like Mobas, or if they like solo, they play RPGs. ArcheAge is the first game from years, which can be called MMORPG, but it is not good enough. But from Korea and Russia are coming better games like Black Desert Online and SkyForge. From the West are comming EverQuest Next and Star Citizens, so maybe the wave will turn back.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,773
    Originally posted by ikcin
    Today MMORPGs are boring, stupid and easy RPGs with some multiplayer. And in fact RPGs are far better. For example compare TESO and Skyrim. Without any doubt Skyrim is the better game. To call games like GW2, TESO and WildStar MMORPGs is even wrong, because they are not. Any game, where the player play in competition and cooperation with NPCs, instead of other players is not MMORPG. That is why players go to games where they can play with other players, like Mobas, or if they like solo, they play RPGs. ArcheAge is the first game from years, which can be called MMORPG, but it is not good enough. But from Korea and Russia are coming better games like Black Desert Online and SkyForge. From the West are comming EverQuest Next and Star Citizens, so maybe the wave will turn back.

    Just broaden the definition of MMORPG (which many sites are doing anyway), and then you may have some better games being included.

    Personally, i play games that are fun to me, and whether it is classified as a MMO is irrelevant (to me).

  • hockeyplayrhockeyplayr Member UncommonPosts: 604
    a game hasn't held my interest for months let alone years since the heyday of runescape (2004ish).  I'm not even sure if it was the game or the people that I happened to be playing with. 
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,903

    I don't migrate anywhere i simply look for a quality game or a game in development that shows some quality.I have been playing  every genre since many many years ago,likely before most even had a PC.Wolfenstein was one of my first games,i played a few others before that but it goes back to around 1980,mmorpg's did not exist back then ,just muds with a few players.

    The ONLY genre i don't like and i doubt it will ever be made to my satisfaction and that is MOBA's LOL's type games.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,903
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Personally for me it is not really the games I find uninteresting anymore, it is the people playing them.

     

    I think I would rather play games by myself now than deal with antisocials and people with short attention spans.

     

    I think this is what is killing MMO's faster than you can say permadeath.

     

    Us

    Well going back to the ONLY true mmorpg ..FFXI,the whole game was based on social and grouping,so you knew almost every single player there wanted to be social.

    Now every single game is made to solo with only bits of end game raiding to follow,that is not a true mmorpg.The fact that the ONLY part of the modern games `Raiding``that is popular ,proves players do want to group and take down tough foes.So i have no idea why devs are making such poor quality `wannabe mmorpg`s`.

    Well i think i do actually know,they feel to make such a quality game needs a sub fee and then your potential market is much smaller so it is a high risk that nobody right now is willing to take.So if nobody is willing to risk a triple A TRUE mmorpg,your not going to get any games to play with longevity in mind.Instead we have seen the same trend over and over,players running the course of the leveling then move on to another game,that is really superficial reasons to play a video game,just for the levels.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,773
    Originally posted by Wizardry
     

    Well going back to the ONLY true mmorpg ..FFXI,the whole game was based on social and grouping,so you knew almost every single player there wanted to be social.

    nah .. i don't play games because they are "true" mmorpgs. I play games which are fun to me, and most "true" mmorpgs are not that fun to me anyway.

     

  • ZardayneZardayne Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Unfortunately I've began looking elsewhere too. I've been playing MMOs since UO and recently after trying ESO and Archeage I've decided to take a break from MMOs until EQN. I can only hope it will rejuvenate me.

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  • KuviskiKuviski Member UncommonPosts: 215
    Frankly, playing most modern MMOs feels like a completely different genre from what I'm used to. WildStar, modern WoW, Rift, FFXIV:RAR... in none of them does the world actually feel open, even if mechanically it is. I can't quite put my finger on why, but maybe it's the big focus on minigames and linear questing.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,773
    Originally posted by Kuviski
    Frankly, playing most modern MMOs feels like a completely different genre from what I'm used to. WildStar, modern WoW, Rift, FFXIV:RAR... in none of them does the world actually feel open, even if mechanically it is. I can't quite put my finger on why, but maybe it's the big focus on minigames and linear questing.

    Yes, the genre has migrated from more a world sim to more game-like.

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