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Nihilanth
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What did you guys think?
I'm not a big Bush supporter, but I actually think he did a pretty good job on a lot of things.
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I think he should just start calling out country a Republic and stop with this spread of Democracy stuff, he's not spreading Democracy heck the U.S. is a Republic. Once he started the discussion on Iraq, he said military leaders should be the ones to send troops into Iraq but, why did he send troops in Iraq? A contradiction... he never was in the military or has experience in it unethical if you as me.
Democrats have a way of not spying on people they try to build trust even if it means putting us in harms way, why most believe that? Because do unto others as you would have them do to you. Bush doesn't seem to understand that, if you ask me. He's pushing for the patriot act as well, I'm glad they removed it. Very few lefties clapped for that one. Tired of it now, back to my art projects. :P
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Why do people call us a democracy?I really have nothing against Republics, so why mislabel us?
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As the President he is "The Commander in Chief" meaning that he is the "boss" of ALL the armed forces.Under him is the "boss" of each department.Air Force,Marines,Army and Navy.
So you see it doesnt matter if you served or not.
BTW just to make it perfectly clear Clinton served no time in military duty either yet he called in a few air strikes in his day as well.
I suppose THAT is ok though since he is a democrat?
You strike me as a bit naive so ill just chalk it up to being a young college student who beleives the rest of the world just loves everyone.
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Honestly, over the past 15 years or so with only 1 or 2 exceptions, the State of the Union address has been nothing more than an over-hyped pep rally. I guess I am saying that you shouldn't read too much into it like the political pundits. In our current polarized government most of what Bush talked about in his speech will go forgotten and unresolved by the time the next State of the Union rolls around. I am not saying that the issues will go away, just that the talking points in the speech will be forgotten within weeks.
For those of you wondering why we, as Americans, call what is by definition a Republic, a Democracy, it is because of a shift in the conversational American English definition of "democracy." Although by no means all encompassing, read this definition.
Look, I never listened to it butI'll tell you now. What happens is his advisors just give him their pet peeves so everything is spread around, but does he do anything about it? Of course not, it's just to tide people over as well as saying it's beyond their control, that it's someone else's fault, anything to keep it out of their ballpark. Bush is a buch of baloney and I voted for Kerry because his presidency is as monumental as a stick in poo.. Just two more years.. *crosses fingers*
We are technically a "Representative Democracy", or "Republic" for short... It is all a matter of semantics really, no need to get heated about it...
I thought he did a pretty good job too... I about keeled over when he said that we are "Addicted to Oil"... The very fact he said that shows you how things are changing... The Bush estate made a ton of cash off of oil, Dick Cheney comes from oil money too, and for this administration to give the nod to renewable energies and a gradual weaning off of foreign oil, this is monumental to say the least... I only wanted to watch his speech for the energy portion, and I was pleasantly surprised...
On a different note, it appears that the 2008 presidential election will be Hillary Clinton vs. Condi Rice... Hillary is for sure running, and people are now suspecting that the republicans will fight fire with fire and run Dr. Rice, I think it is a good move, and will show the rest of the world that America still is the leader of civil rights for all...
First off the media announced Bush would say we were addicted to Foreign Oil 2 days before the Speech so it wasn't a big surprise. The statement means squat. Every mildly intelligent person knows that we are addicted or reliant on foreign oil and have been for many many years. Hell, there is hardly a large country that is not addicted to foreign oil except the few that have major reserves of their own. Why do you think Japan decided to attack Pearl Harbor in 1941?
As far as Condi vs Hillary, don't bank on it. Condi is a black woman with very little experience in managing government. I believe she was a Russian analyst before Bush appointed her Security Advisor. Now personally I would love to see a woman, or especially a black woman as president because I love to see advancements in Civil Rights and Race Equality. If there was a Jewish Black Female Lesbian running for president who had the right experience she would definitely get my vote. The problem is, a large chunk of voters don't feel this way.
Of course Condi would grab a lot of black voters who would normally vote for a Democrat or not vote at all, and no one could blame them for this. But the truth of the matter is that Condi just doesn't have the experience and I seriously doubt she will have the backing within her own party to get far enough to pull in the black vote. Plus during an election her famous quote to the 9/11 commission will hurt her chances with the majority "Soundbyte Voters". Frist is in worse condition with his cat killing days and his hand in the Terry Schiavo controversy.
I personally think Hillary Clinton would make a great president. I am however guardedly optimistic on her chances of success. As shown in countless polls recently, there is a large percentage of voters who would never vote for her no matter what. The good news is that these people could never be counted on to vote for her in the first place and that the fact her husband was president and that she is a woman will bring in a lot of those "Soundbyte Voters" as well. The same people who originally voted for George W. Bush because his father was president and he shared the same name, and there was a hell of a lot of them, will vote for Hillary. Still it all comes down to the elections this November and few other things.
I heard about this a couple days ago as well... It isn't a big surprise to me that we are addicted to oil, this is common knowledge... But for Bush to state this publicly, I think it is a major happenning... Dr. Thomas Friedman, who wrote 'The World is Flat' makes a very compelling case as to why we need to cut down on our oil dependence... And the word is finally starting to get to the top... We need a national energy policy in the worst way possible... Bottom line is, we have never had one... And yes, every other country out there is addicted to oil, but in order for America to stay on the leading edge of things, renewable energy will give us a huge leap forward, and once again America will the the pioneer for green energy on a mass scale... Hell, Denmark already gets 20% of their energy from wind, that speaks volumes as to the possibilities...
I am only making a big deal about this because it excites me... I find the idea of alternative energy sources to be fascinating, and am really happy it is getting the national attention it deserves...
I predict this thread is about to become heated...
I will say that there is a lot of political nonsense that will happen over the next 2+ years before we see our next President. Democrats may publically wish for a Condi vs Hilary showdown, but I don't believe that the Republicans would be dumb enough to put another woman up against Hilary. I know this is what "everyone" thinks America wants, but honestly I think America is still more discriminatory than we wish to admit. In the end, the first woman ticket holder is going to have to beat a man in order for there to ever be a woman v woman showdown for the Presidency. Hilary Clinton may be the first woman to have that chance, but I doubt we are going to see Hilary vs Condi in 2008.
I actually agree that the notion of Democracy in most Western nations is just that.... a notion.... at best Australia the USA and UK are benevolent dictatorships based on a christian theocratic model. They are about the same distance from true democracy as China or most other nations that dont even consider themselves to be democratic.
I think the stuff about reducing oil use was the best double speak I have heard in ages. I hope you all realise that the move to reduce imported oil use by 75% is not a move toward renewable energy, its a move toward drilling in Alaska. Gotta hand it to Dubya, hes a master of bull$hit.
Other than that it was the same tired rhetoric about terrorism, attcking other countries and getting close to god. A combination of paranoia, phsycosis and stupidity masqurading as responsible government.
Australia is no better....
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My ability to read between the lines comes from 10 years with a Prime Minister who could lie to God and get away with it.
If he said "no citizens will be summarily shot" it would mean he planned to strangle us.
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