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Sorry to burst your bubbles, but there is close to 0% chance that these programmers will even be contacted let alone taken to court and successfully sued. This is more of an attempt to scare off future hack creators.
Would be a completely different story if they were residing in the US but then again, what hacker is going to try to hack a US based company in the US? That's what Russian hackers are for.
The amount of hate around here for Blizzard is still astounding. I bet some people wet them selfs when they see a topic with Blizzard in it. Another chance for Blizzard haters to hate, and Fanbois to retort.
But i digress, This is a positive step for Blizzard. I hope they keep it up. If you make hacks and use them to cheat, you run the risk of being brought to justice. If you sell them, you run a higher risk.
I wonder about the people that feel bad for them. They're almost openely admitting that they use exploits by taking the creators defense. I know, thats a pretty big assumption. But one that id say is 99% accurate.
They have to approach it from both fronts. If there are real punishments out there for people who develop hacks, then fewer people will do it, there will be less hacks, and less people hacking.
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hacking is hacking.
http://n4g.com/news/230141/blizzard-bans-350-000-dirty-cheating-battle-netters So before you make claims that Blizzard isn't going after people for cheating in Starcraft and Diablo 2 you should do some research.
http://n4g.com/news/511866/blizzard-bans-320k-diablo-2-warcraft-3-players And also for Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2
I cannot stand when they make hacks to give a competitive advantage.
It falls right in with gold sellers. If you are going to play a multi-player game, then play by the same rules.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Clearly you don't understand. Blizzard isn't greedy to the lawsuit. I doubt they will LOSE money because they have to pay their lawyers.
They are only doing this to make a stand on cheating. Holding their ground firm. It's a loss of money but in the long run, it will scare future developers of script hacking. I'd be scared, to be honest.
You are having a laugh Yes? , Blizzard does'nt care about cheats or Item Sites infact they do everything in there power to help them.
Example:
Diablo 2 was just given a Ladder reset, it was only 6 months since the last reset, normally it is atleast a year.
A well known (reported frequently to Blizzard) Item Site offered over $3000 to game players for reaching a certain level, so the CHEATERS got rich playing with HACKS and EXPLOITS that have been reported for years.
After only 4 weeks of the new ladder the ingame econemy is totally ruined by BOT users who run these BOTS 24hrs aday then sell there items at a well known gaming site.
Blizzard does not care at all they only care for WOW, Cheats / Exploits / Bots are a everyday occurance in Diablo 2.
I just wish a game mag or a well known games site on the internet would do a full story on Blizzards could'nt careless attitude for there gamers and show everyone about all this cheating.
SHAME on you Blizzard.
this honestly make the banned player look the worst of all 3 parties. (blizzard, the company who makes the hack, the player who uses it) first off i will say that throwing the ban hammer on a guy for using this in single player mode is a tad overkill, but i at least get the message that they're trying send to the company making the hack, and future possible uses of that companies program that it won't be tolerated. but if if i'm the player...i'm basically saying "ok...this game on easy normal or hard mode is too difficult to master..and i don't want to use blzzard's cheats because i'll loose my precious no-prize achievements....i'll download from iphailhrd.com and get super mode where i can make unlimited ammounts of troops instead of just doing old school trial and error by restarting and doing a different strategy." now if you get found out you'll just be one of the thousands who feel they got screwed but the fact is you did it to yourself. all the product issues aside....all the "blzz's servers their rules" comments aside, what happened to good old fahioned "i'll do it until i get it right?" they even gave you a strategy guide to take you step by step through missions for god's sake. it just makes today's game player look sad, i don't feel bad for them at all.
Played:FFXI, WoW, LOTR,EQ. Playing:FFXIV.
Looking Forward To:DCU, SWTOR.
Good!
Cheaters ruins such games nuff said!!!
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
I think I have a right to cheat. If I pay $69.99 for a single game and during solo play I want to cheat I should be able to do so without fear of being banned for a game I paid for. It seems more and more gaming companies are demanding more and not returning on the game experience such (play time) (removing missions/quests) For example I purchased Mafia 2 and Fable 3 each pc game had a total 15hrs of game play for a rough total of 35hrs.
Five years ago a pc game had up to 40hrs of game play and you felt like you got your moneys worth for $69.99 and you could cheats and not be in fear gaming companies came after you. As I said if I buy a game and I'm playing a solo campaign I should be able to cheat. If gaming companies are going to interfer with my purchase they are saying to the consumer alot of thing such as ( Even tho you buy our product this game is not yours) or ( If you buy our product and find your cheating at your game we will ban you for life)
Gaming is not as fun as it used to be soon players will be demanded of or be baned for life.
my friend, you missed the point entirely. the point is they GAVE cheats, but this person in question didn't like the fact that the cheats because they 1:were not all of what he wanted and 2: turned off the achievement score or whatever. so he went to an outside 3rd party to get a hack that not only let him break the troop cap, but also didn't turn off the achivements. now i don't see anything wrong with using cheats, but he basically hacked the game...even if it was for solo play. and who's to say he wouldn't have turned around and used ti in a multi player mode. then if he does...he's ruining it for others.
Played:FFXI, WoW, LOTR,EQ. Playing:FFXIV.
Looking Forward To:DCU, SWTOR.
No one cares about Diablo 2. Get over it.
Almost every comment on this thread about it being horrible is completely stupid. Allow me to elaborate.
You folks are calling for them to be sued like it's your personal life. Well it's a S-player cheat, nothing terribly special.
Now those you prats calling for blood, did you call blood on game genie? game breaker? So on?
How about those of you who use gamefaqs to get past the simplest puzzles in games, to the roughest boss?
That in a form is cheating as well.
I'm a hardcore purist, I don't even read what a story is of a game, i save and deal with the saves and never use guides, and my punk butt is saying "Who cares".
You see, that's cheating to me, using guides. So on.
If I could care less, why do you? And no it's not going to have dramatic effects on other games, cheats have existed since the first days of ZORK and big stick hacks. Get over it. It's part of the gaming experience. It's like hardcore porn you may not like it, but it exists and god bless it for being so.
Haters gonna hate. Whatever Blizzard does, Blizzard is greedy, bad, evil, cult, secret organization with an agenda, and so on. Waste of time.
On topic, while I'm not a fan of Blizzard, I strongly encourage Developers to follow Blizzard's step and sue Hackers like it is the case here. Hacking is a rather lucrative business which is left alone for whatever reason it may be. Instead of attacking the source, most publishers or developers prefer to take a passive stance and detect hacks as they are created which, while it is a good thing that hackers are being banned, still doesn't adress the core of the problem.
So I'm really glad that Blizzard is attacking this very core, as it will scare future hackers away, and while it may not scare them all, it will still be a very effective strike given that Blizzard wins this case. I doub tthey'd lose it anyway, it's a clear violation of their ToS/EULA.
I assume the reason they are banning the users of cheat scripts and programs used in singleplayer is because of the achievements. If you want to play with unlimited resources in singleplayer there is perfectly fine cheatcodes provided by blizzard, but using these disables earning achievements for the current game. Also these cheatcodes are ofcourse not useable in multiplayer.
Also, good work blizzard.
Unless Blizzard pays off judges, or the laws in these other countries are completely different from ours, they won't win in court.
Suing these guys is a little similar to suing gun manufacturers for murders, or alcohol sellers for car accidents.
Actually, a better example would be if they sued aftermarket carkit makers, like turbo kits, enabling people to install them and go recklessly faster, causing accidents and deaths.
Singleplayer cheats..who gives a damn if someone wants o destroy their own game experience..if its a boxed version you do own the game...
if its the online version, yea cheaters should be banned but no way in hell Blizzard is gona pull this one off.
first is a US court. that makes it void for evey other country. (to sertain degree) then the EULA and ToU, the EULA and ToU is not a law. it has no legal basis at all. the EULA and ToU,is not a offical reconized form of contract. even if it were then they gota prove that they use their own acounds to make and test the cheats. maybe someone else suplied them the "ram data"
then again even if the local US law (local court /state now US wide high court or however they call it..) they need to get the other countrys to work whit them to do the sentance. at best the guys / gals could face a "dont travel to the US or you ahve to pay/ sit for so long"
if i were a cheat maker and blizzard manages to get someting in their favor I would put my finger up and start making the best most devios game destroyign cheats there are.
no mather how big a company is, you realy dont wana mess smart internet folks who make a "small" living out of odd stuff like cheats. its like saying we now own the rights to cheating, that will tick off alot of "digital freedom fighter" and you may face a serious problem. in blizzard case I could see a entire hackers /programmer comunity making tons of cheats for wow and that "unknown" other to be MMO.
It only needs one smart 15 year old kid to outsmart every security messure, dont piss them off , welcome to the digital age.