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It puzzles me why would anyone target those type of ads on a gaming site. It makes very little sense. May be when they allow an account creation they need to make them answer some random MMORPG question or vet the applications so they cannot post immediately after they try to create an account.
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Originally posted by kitarad It puzzles me why would anyone target those type of ads on a gaming site. It makes very little sense. May be when they allow an account creation they need to make them answer some random MMORPG question or vet the applications so they cannot post immediately after they try to create an account.
The people who pull these scams aren't very smart.
Originally posted by kitarad It puzzles me why would anyone target those type of ads on a gaming site. It makes very little sense. May be when they allow an account creation they need to make them answer some random MMORPG question or vet the applications so they cannot post immediately after they try to create an account.
The people who pull these scams aren't very smart.
They are very smart.
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They don't do this to get people from the forums to go to their spam links. They do it to get back-links in Google and push ranking or keywords of whatever they promote.
Why do people always think banning stops these people. With an account name like ;drklgndtrkgjrkhn what are the odds that person is ever going to use it again ?
Originally posted by DamonVile Why do people always think banning stops these people. With an account name like ;drklgndtrkgjrkhn what are the odds that person is ever going to use it again ?
I think I saw that person gold spamming on ArcheAge last evening.
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It's not a person, just a simple script, and not even a pricey / sophisticated one.
I'm not pretending I know anything about running and managing a forum engine, so just a few ideas:
- no thread open right for new accounts. Even a 24-48 hours delay would rule out most of the simpler bots.
- new thread interval increase, with ban. It's not a common procedure for any real user to open a thread in every minute... so if a user is opening a thread at 10:20, then one at 10:21, and try to open a new one at 10:22, you could easily auto-ban the account. Even a temporary ban for a day would be enough for most bots, since those aren't using an account for more than a day (knowing and expecting their accounts will be banned by then)
- for this actual case, you could set up a filter for that number in all of the threads. If an account is trying to open a thread with that number in the title, auto-ban. Again, it could be a temporary ban if you want to be kind, the point is to send back to the bot a failure.
- based on how dumb is the idiot behind the whole issue, the 2 point above could lead a massive scripted account creation... so you'd probably need some gateway in that process, if the servers can't take the extra load.
Originally posted by DamonVile Why do people always think banning stops these people. With an account name like ;drklgndtrkgjrkhn what are the odds that person is ever going to use it again ?
You completely missed the point. Those guys create 10-20 threads before a mod wakes up and bans them.
If we had a feature that gives trustworthy users the ability to put those spammers immediately into a temp ban they would never get that far.
Of course they could simply create a new account but we could fight back again just as easily.
Better than watching them spamming all over the forum without being able to do anything about it.
Maybe at the next staff meeting they can adjust their hours. I am assuming they are based on the east coast or have employees on the east coast. Instead of waking up at 9 maybe try 730 so those who use this site in the morning don't have to deal with the spam.
If you look at the general gaming sub-forum, you can see that this spamming went on for 5 hours at this point.
Mods, please wake up.
Yeah. MMORPG needs to have mods covering this shit 24/7. Cant be THAT hard to find some trustworthy peeps to jump in and help. Heck, I would even do it when I had the time. I usually hang here alot at my spare time. And there sure is more like me out there. Cause we can´t have it like this. It's killing the joy for many of us.
Maybe at the next staff meeting they can adjust their hours. I am assuming they are based on the east coast or have employees on the east coast. Instead of waking up at 9 maybe try 730 so those who use this site in the morning don't have to deal with the spam.
Or just get one more mod living in another timezone!?
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They've figured out what hours are least likely to have a mod on deck, and target accordingly.
What I wonder is if anyone actually goes to one of these sites, especially after their favorite forum is blown up by spam like this?
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
The people who pull these scams aren't very smart.
They are very smart.
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They don't do this to get people from the forums to go to their spam links. They do it to get back-links in Google and push ranking or keywords of whatever they promote.
It would be so easy to stop the daily spam with auto banning tools or a special report feature.
Only older accounts in good standing get to tag someone as add spammer. The spammer would be put into a temp ban until a mod can check it out.
Abuse of the feature would be strictly punished.
I'd gladly take up the job if it meant stopping the spammers.
No need for a person, you can automate this with every forum software or a few simple scripts on your Server/Firewall.
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This should not happen, i have no idea who is in charge of security on this forum but he needs to go take some courses on IT security.
I think I saw that person gold spamming on ArcheAge last evening.
Or maybe it was his cousin?
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It's not a person, just a simple script, and not even a pricey / sophisticated one.
I'm not pretending I know anything about running and managing a forum engine, so just a few ideas:
- no thread open right for new accounts. Even a 24-48 hours delay would rule out most of the simpler bots.
- new thread interval increase, with ban. It's not a common procedure for any real user to open a thread in every minute... so if a user is opening a thread at 10:20, then one at 10:21, and try to open a new one at 10:22, you could easily auto-ban the account. Even a temporary ban for a day would be enough for most bots, since those aren't using an account for more than a day (knowing and expecting their accounts will be banned by then)
- for this actual case, you could set up a filter for that number in all of the threads. If an account is trying to open a thread with that number in the title, auto-ban. Again, it could be a temporary ban if you want to be kind, the point is to send back to the bot a failure.
- based on how dumb is the idiot behind the whole issue, the 2 point above could lead a massive scripted account creation... so you'd probably need some gateway in that process, if the servers can't take the extra load.
You completely missed the point. Those guys create 10-20 threads before a mod wakes up and bans them.
If we had a feature that gives trustworthy users the ability to put those spammers immediately into a temp ban they would never get that far.
Of course they could simply create a new account but we could fight back again just as easily.
Better than watching them spamming all over the forum without being able to do anything about it.
Another day, another spam attack. Please do something.
If you look at the general gaming sub-forum, you can see that this spamming went on for 5 hours at this point.
Mods, please wake up.
Yeah. MMORPG needs to have mods covering this shit 24/7. Cant be THAT hard to find some trustworthy peeps to jump in and help. Heck, I would even do it when I had the time. I usually hang here alot at my spare time. And there sure is more like me out there. Cause we can´t have it like this. It's killing the joy for many of us.
Or just get one more mod living in another timezone!?